What do you think I could do better?

[mattnomics]

Hello everyone!

It's a pleasure to be here - I feel like since a week or so I'm not doing anything other than reading about Ray Peat's philosophy, way of eating etc. I've been struggling with my health for over 6 years now - it all started with lyme with co infections and was getting worse and worse. So to sum up last year it's been: lyme and co infections, candida, parasites, SIBO, histamine intolerance. My main symptoms are: diziness, fatigue (I feel tired like almost all the time), I used to have air hunger and chest tightness much more often, now it's only occasionaly thank God. Nowadays it's mainly diziness and neurological symptoms.

I tried carnivore for 3 months this year, it really helped me with bloating and stuff but didn't feel much of a difference besides that. I started adding carbs - mostly rice, when I wanted to go more into sugar: raw milk, fruits and honey, I didn't really feel well after some time. I felt like I was attacked by parasites again - dizziness worsen and mostly chest tightness and breathing dificulties.

1. Because of all of the above, I don't really eat sugar - only rice as a source of carbs (about 33% of calories intake). I wonder if that's okay? What do you think? Everyone says you shouldn't really eat sugar why treating all those things. But I'm not eating it and still I don't feel well. My TSH is pretty low - 1,28 mIU/L.
2. I keep getting parasites like every 3 months, so now I decided to focus on fixing my stomach acid level - I feel like it can be a problem. I'm supplementing Betaine HCL, Vitamin B complex and Pepsin GI zinc. Would you suggest something else?
3. Maybe someone treated lyme with no antibiotics? What's your experience? I've got to take herbs now, I've been treated with antibiotics for like 9 months in the past and right now my gut won't really tolerate antibiotics longer than few days.

In summary, my whole diet right now is: rice, ground beef, gelatine, eggs, butter, olives, bone broth, occasionally some chicken and turkey/beef liver. I drink a lot of salt with my water and supplement betaine hcl, glicyne, b vitamins, vitamin d&k, some candida and lyme herbs, zinc.

I would so much appreciate any feedback from you guys. What do you think I could do better? Thank you, cheers.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Starches are converted to sugar, so I would ditch the rice because of the candida and switch to a strong raw honey like Manuka to help kill that off.

“Honey has antibacterial properties against antibiotic-resistant bacteria, as well as several fungi including Candida spp. and Aspergillus spp.” Most studies into the medical applications of honey focus on its antibacterial and antimicrobial properties⁴. This is particularly true for manuka honey.”

Is manuka honey antifungal?

Is manuka honey antifungal? With its anti-inflammatory and antibacterial properties, manuka honey could be a treatment for fungal infections. Read more.

newzealandhoneyco.com

 

[mattnomics]

Starches are converted to sugar, so I would ditch the rice because of the candida and switch to a strong raw honey like Manuka to help kill that off.

“Honey has antibacterial properties against antibiotic-resistant bacteria, as well as several fungi including Candida spp. and Aspergillus spp.” Most studies into the medical applications of honey focus on its antibacterial and antimicrobial properties⁴. This is particularly true for manuka honey.”

Is manuka honey antifungal?

Is manuka honey antifungal? With its anti-inflammatory and antibacterial properties, manuka honey could be a treatment for fungal infections. Read more.

newzealandhoneyco.com

I will try it for sure, thank you. During the summer I used to eat honey, not maunka one though. Small amounts were fine, but when I ate more (still not much, like 3tbsps at once) I was bloated and gassy.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

I will try it for sure, thank you. During the summer I used to eat honey, not maunka one though. Small amounts were fine, but when I ate more (still not much, like 3tbsps at once) I was bloated and gassy.

Real raw honey is one of most counterfeited foods, so I would buy a certified high UMF numbered Manuka, which is expensive, and take it on an empty stomach at night before bed and let it do it’s magic. Don’t treat raw honey like a condiment, use it away from food to get your money’s worth.,

 

[Ben.]

Hello everyone!

It's a pleasure to be here - I feel like since a week or so I'm not doing anything other than reading about Ray Peat's philosophy, way of eating etc. I've been struggling with my health for over 6 years now - it all started with lyme with co infections and was getting worse and worse. So to sum up last year it's been: lyme and co infections, candida, parasites, SIBO, histamine intolerance. My main symptoms are: diziness, fatigue (I feel tired like almost all the time), I used to have air hunger and chest tightness much more often, now it's only occasionaly thank God. Nowadays it's mainly diziness and neurological symptoms.

I tried carnivore for 3 months this year, it really helped me with bloating and stuff but didn't feel much of a difference besides that. I started adding carbs - mostly rice, when I wanted to go more into sugar: raw milk, fruits and honey, I didn't really feel well after some time. I felt like I was attacked by parasites again - dizziness worsen and mostly chest tightness and breathing dificulties.

1. Because of all of the above, I don't really eat sugar - only rice as a source of carbs (about 33% of calories intake). I wonder if that's okay? What do you think? Everyone says you shouldn't really eat sugar why treating all those things. But I'm not eating it and still I don't feel well. My TSH is pretty low - 1,28 mIU/L.
2. I keep getting parasites like every 3 months, so now I decided to focus on fixing my stomach acid level - I feel like it can be a problem. I'm supplementing Betaine HCL, Vitamin B complex and Pepsin GI zinc. Would you suggest something else?
3. Maybe someone treated lyme with no antibiotics? What's your experience? I've got to take herbs now, I've been treated with antibiotics for like 9 months in the past and right now my gut won't really tolerate antibiotics longer than few days.

In summary, my whole diet right now is: rice, ground beef, gelatine, eggs, butter, olives, bone broth, occasionally some chicken and turkey/beef liver. I drink a lot of salt with my water and supplement betaine hcl, glicyne, b vitamins, vitamin d&k, some candida and lyme herbs, zinc.

I would so much appreciate any feedback from you guys. What do you think I could do better? Thank you, cheers.

Hello mattnomics,

I've been in a similar boat since 2019 (prolly even 1-2 years before that). Since then i went from antibiotics trough mega doses of supplements to different parasite cleanses (herbal and prescpription medication dewormers), fasting (both dry and water fasting) to diet changes of different kinds (haven't tried carnivore) and also different anti-fungal approaches aswell, ozone insuflation, liver flushes, enemas (Chlorine dioxide ones and coffe ones) and essential oils and many other things i can't recall from the top of my head right now. It is quite insane looking back at it.
Im not trough the woods yet so i can't tell you a success story so to speak but my life quality has increased from year to year and i've gathered atleast for my body a significant amount of experience if i dare say so even if there are setbacks from time to time.

1. I woudn't shy away from sugar per say but in neither infection wether it is spirochetes, protozoa or actual worms/flukes is sugar the main cause of issues in my experience/opinion. Improving immune function, supplying ample amount of nutrients , reducing stress wherever you can and eating the food that is the least problematic would be my first approach to this. Then try to figure out what infection you have, what methods are used to get rid of them and evaluate from there.

2. What do you mean you get them every 3 months? Actual worms in the toilet? Diagnosing actual parasitic/systemic infection wether it is a fungi, a spriochete, protozoa or actual worms is quite difficult especially if you do not have the right people and the right tests at your disposal.

In terms of suggestion for supplements ... you mean for killing invaders or nourishing yourself? gauge how you react to vitamin d (i cant take it at all for example and took me quite some time to figure out it was causing actually some of the symptoms i had) but the vitamin d receptors are messed up in lyme disease. Inflammation, increased cytokines and changes to enzymatic processes seem to be a big part in this. Other than that a big one in my opinion is trace elements (including most notably zinc, copper, boron, chrome, silicium, selenium, manganese, lithium) and collagen/glycine.

3. Many chronic lyme sufferers treat with herbals rather than antibiotics. Often they combine it. Cowden and Buhner protocoll are the most noteworthy.


I have a few questions for you:

What tests did you make for lyme and parasites? (ELISA/Western Blot or more specialised ones from Igenex or Arminlabs?)
What tests have you done in regards to nutritional status and hormones?
What antibiotics have you recieved for your condition/lyme? (doxycycline, amoxicillin, cefuroxime or something else?)
What herbs have you taken or are you taking right now? How do you feel on them?
With these long courses of antibiotics have you been put on anti-fungals and or probiotics? If yes, what exactly did you take?
What does "not tolerating antibiotics anymore" mean exactly?
Have some of the things you have tried for your problems caused improvements even if it was just short term?
Can you list symptomps you have or had since you got infected? Perhaps you can make a short list where one part describes the symptoms you experienced from the infection but have ceased/calmed down and the other part describes the ones you still have.

If theese questions are to bothersome i understand. Following this here is a purely anecdotal description of what helped me and a few people with the same issues in regards to each symptom (Note: Not recommending taking all or any of these things, just improvements/resolution of certain symptoms trough lots of trial and error to kickstart some ideas for you):

Brain fog - essential oils (cinnamon, mint, oregano, myrrh/frankincense and eucalyptus come to mind) and trace elements
Digestion issues - finding the right antimicrobial nukes/antifungals, lugols, trace elements, BCP-157, glycine, b-vitamins
Chronic wandering joint pain that come and go - antimicrobial nukes (alcohol, ozone insuflation, enemas helped me alot with that particular one), binders (activated charcoal or zeolith)
Chronic fatigue - trace elements, Q10, B1, B2, B3, essential oils/antimicrobials, binders (activated charcoal or zeolith), lapacho+apigenin
Chronicly painful and tight muscles - magnesium, red light, trace elements, enemas/laxatives
Tissue breakdown due infection/malnutrition - collagen/protein, trace elements, vitamin c
Chronic inflammation, Reduced tolerance to stress, Visual Snow, Tinnitus and or being hypersensitive to temperature and/or sounds - choline, taurine, red light reducing stress
Restricted/Impaired Breathing - essential oils and other antimicrobial nukes, trace elements
Chronicly cold limbs/body - Sufficient macro and micro nutrients, antimicrobial nukes, improving thyroid, excercise

 

[marcar72]

As a singular experiment you could try a round or two of apolactoferrin (Jarrow or Life Extension perhaps) taken on an empty stomach to see if the root of your problems is an iron imbalance. It could very well cure your situation right up. Be sure to take the capsules without food so it don't bind minerals inside your G.I. tract and then take them into your system. So 30 to 60 capsules of apolactoferrin taken on an empty stomach once or twice a day.

 

[mattnomics]

Hello mattnomics,

I've been in a similar boat since 2019 (prolly even 1-2 years before that). Since then i went from antibiotics trough mega doses of supplements to different parasite cleanses (herbal and prescpription medication dewormers), fasting (both dry and water fasting) to diet changes of different kinds (haven't tried carnivore) and also different anti-fungal approaches aswell, ozone insuflation, liver flushes, enemas (Chlorine dioxide ones and coffe ones) and essential oils and many other things i can't recall from the top of my head right now. It is quite insane looking back at it.
Im not trough the woods yet so i can't tell you a success story so to speak but my life quality has increased from year to year and i've gathered atleast for my body a significant amount of experience if i dare say so even if there are setbacks from time to time.

1. I woudn't shy away from sugar per say but in neither infection wether it is spirochetes, protozoa or actual worms/flukes is sugar the main cause of issues in my experience/opinion. Improving immune function, supplying ample amount of nutrients , reducing stress wherever you can and eating the food that is the least problematic would be my first approach to this. Then try to figure out what infection you have, what methods are used to get rid of them and evaluate from there.

2. What do you mean you get them every 3 months? Actual worms in the toilet? Diagnosing actual parasitic/systemic infection wether it is a fungi, a spriochete, protozoa or actual worms is quite difficult especially if you do not have the right people and the right tests at your disposal.

In terms of suggestion for supplements ... you mean for killing invaders or nourishing yourself? gauge how you react to vitamin d (i cant take it at all for example and took me quite some time to figure out it was causing actually some of the symptoms i had) but the vitamin d receptors are messed up in lyme disease. Inflammation, increased cytokines and changes to enzymatic processes seem to be a big part in this. Other than that a big one in my opinion is trace elements (including most notably zinc, copper, boron, chrome, silicium, selenium, manganese, lithium) and collagen/glycine.

3. Many chronic lyme sufferers treat with herbals rather than antibiotics. Often they combine it. Cowden and Buhner protocoll are the most noteworthy.


I have a few questions for you:

What tests did you make for lyme and parasites? (ELISA/Western Blot or more specialised ones from Igenex or Arminlabs?)
What tests have you done in regards to nutritional status and hormones?
What antibiotics have you recieved for your condition/lyme? (doxycycline, amoxicillin, cefuroxime or something else?)
What herbs have you taken or are you taking right now? How do you feel on them?
With these long courses of antibiotics have you been put on anti-fungals and or probiotics? If yes, what exactly did you take?
What does "not tolerating antibiotics anymore" mean exactly?
Have some of the things you have tried for your problems caused improvements even if it was just short term?
Can you list symptomps you have or had since you got infected? Perhaps you can make a short list where one part describes the symptoms you experienced from the infection but have ceased/calmed down and the other part describes the ones you still have.

If theese questions are to bothersome i understand. Following this here is a purely anecdotal description of what helped me and a few people with the same issues in regards to each symptom (Note: Not recommending taking all or any of these things, just improvements/resolution of certain symptoms trough lots of trial and error to kickstart some ideas for you):

Brain fog - essential oils (cinnamon, mint, oregano, myrrh/frankincense and eucalyptus come to mind) and trace elements
Digestion issues - finding the right antimicrobial nukes/antifungals, lugols, trace elements, BCP-157, glycine, b-vitamins
Chronic wandering joint pain that come and go - antimicrobial nukes (alcohol, ozone insuflation, enemas helped me alot with that particular one), binders (activated charcoal or zeolith)
Chronic fatigue - trace elements, Q10, B1, B2, B3, essential oils/antimicrobials, binders (activated charcoal or zeolith), lapacho+apigenin
Chronicly painful and tight muscles - magnesium, red light, trace elements, enemas/laxatives
Tissue breakdown due infection/malnutrition - collagen/protein, trace elements, vitamin c
Chronic inflammation, Reduced tolerance to stress, Visual Snow, Tinnitus and or being hypersensitive to temperature and/or sounds - choline, taurine, red light reducing stress
Restricted/Impaired Breathing - essential oils and other antimicrobial nukes, trace elements
Chronicly cold limbs/body - Sufficient macro and micro nutrients, antimicrobial nukes, improving thyroid, excercise

Hi, thank you for your response!

Answering your first three questions:
1. I feel like I'm already doing everything I should. My diet is 100% "clean" since a year, supplementing vit d3, k2, b complex etc.

2. 2 or 3 years back my main issue was chest tightness and air hunger - that's when I changed a doc and she says to do a stool test for parasites and it was positive, I had ascaris lumbricoides. After only one round of albendazole I felt so much better. It was like a game changer. Unfortunately it lasted like couple of days and I was struggling with it still for a long time. It changed for better this year when I went carnivore and was taking wormwood extract (after taking lots of albendazole I don't tolerate it well - my stomach hurts). But when I was eating honey during summer, after 2 weeks or so, my breathing has worsened again. That's why I said I keep getting parasites every 3 months. At least that's what I think it is. I judge it by the symptoms. And bioresonance. I wasn't really paying much attention to it but it actually covers pretty well how I'm feeling. E.g I was feeling really well - it only showed my lyme and co infections, but when I had those difficulties breathing, I checked again and there was some worm I could get from my cat..

3. Yes, I know. I went through Buhner protocol once but that was before I knew parasites/candida/EBV could block effects of any lyme treatment.

And the answers to your next questions:

What tests did you make for lyme and parasites?

LTT, Elispot, Elispot 2 - I made them here in Poland where I live but I see those are the ones they do in ArminLabs.
Parasites first diagnosed with stool test. Later I did treatment which only helped me for a few days and after that I made like 3 stool tests over a year, all negative. But symptoms went off for few days after albendazole so I associated them with parasites. After that I took bioresonance a couple of times like I said earlier.

What tests have you done in regards to nutritional status and hormones?
I'm not sure I'm getting it right but in terms of nutritions - I eat a lot of grassfed beef, bone broth ocassionaly, gelatine, eggs, butter. Supplementing glycine, zinc, b comples, k2, d3. In terms of hormones - pretty much nothing. My TSH is 1,28 mIU/L, it has gotten worse over last 3 years. It was over 3 at first and gradually declined.

What antibiotics have you recieved for your condition/lyme?
Azitromycine, minocycline, cefuroxime - and maybe something else, not sure now.

What herbs have you taken or are you taking right now? How do you feel on them?
Right now I'm on houttuynia and wormwood. Wormwood has helped me in the past with parasites - I felt better after some time on it. Besides that I'm on some candida blend, it cointans: caprylic acid, grey walnut, pau d'arco, oregano, garlic bulb, european olive leaf, cat's claw, mugwort, d-bioton. How do I feel? Well, I don't feel good overall so yeah. Can't say. Only that wormwood has helped in the past.

With these long courses of antibiotics have you been put on anti-fungals and or probiotics? If yes, what exactly did you take?
Yes i have. Fluconazole as an anti fungal. Different probiotics. Right now I'm on Bifidobacterium animalis and Bifidobacterium breve (Bifidobiotic NS 35 g | Dobra Cena | Sklep Online - Nature Science this one)

What does "not tolerating antibiotics anymore" mean exactly?
My gut hurts, I'm bloated and of course it's connected with worsen dizines and overall state.

Have some of the things you have tried for your problems caused improvements even if it was just short term?

Yes, 2 years back albendazole. It was the biggest impact I had speaking on day-to-day changes. But as I mentioned - it didn't last. Biggest improvement overall was this year when I eliminated things which were hurting my gut and went carnivore + wormwood. I had better those last few months but I started bioresonance threapy in September and I'm feeling way worse on that. There are days on which it's okay but overall it's bad. They told me it can be like that because od "die-off" effect etc. I don't really know but I told to myself I need to do at least few months on this. My friends cured himself doing ONLY this, he didn't really do anything besides that, no herbs, basic supplements. I also talked to some people who were recommending that place. So I promised myself I have to at least try.

Can you list symptomps you have or had since you got infected? Perhaps you can make a short list where one part describes the symptoms you experienced from the infection but have ceased/calmed down and the other part describes the ones you still have.

diziness - since it all started 6 years ago, there were times when they were better but lately it's worse
air hunger - I call it like that, I don't really know if it's proper term - sometimes I felt like I was walking up the stairs even though I was sitting etc. Feeling of lack of air, wouldn't wish that to my worse enemy
chest tightness (?) - same, I don't know if I'm naming it correctly (I'm sorry, english's not my first language), I feel like something is stack in my lungs - in the upper parts of it, right under the clavicle (during times when my "parasites symptoms" were better, I still had it, but breathing was way better that's why I though I'm done with worms, but I think this symptom can be from something else - maybe EBV?)
sense of un-reality (?) - I don't know how to call it, I feel like I drank like 3 beers and it was always like that those few years back, now it comes and goes
fatigue - almost everyday it's like I could go to sleep right after breakfast, I almost hardly notice that anymore, I could go to sleep anytime

So that would be it. To add some context - first 3 years of my treatment there were only neurological symptoms, after that I started having those breathing issues. Lately I thought maybe it's all connected to EBV? I don't really know. Like I said, now I'm focusing on my stomach to make it more acid.

My biggest question is if I should start eating more things - like milk etc. I'm not really eating any source of calcium nowadays, I feel like I should start caring about that. And also about thyroid. Right now when it's cold outside - my hands and feet are cold all the time.

Thank you one again for your post, I hope I answered your questions properly. Here are some mine summarized:

1. Do you think I should start eating other source of carbs than rice? Like milk, fruits (low histamine)? I already ordered manuka honey.
2. Do you think I should supplement calcium (even if I started drinking milk at first I don't think I'd drink enough)
3. Should I start supplementing trace elements right away or maybe do some kind of test to find out if I'm missing those?

 

[Peatful]

1. Do you think I should start eating other source of carbs than rice? Like milk, fruits (low histamine)? I already ordered manuka honey.
2. Do you think I should supplement calcium (even if I started drinking milk at first I don't think I'd drink enough)
3. Should I start supplementing trace elements right away or maybe do some kind of test to find out if I'm missing those?

1. YES
2. No
3. No

 

[mattnomics]

As a singular experiment you could try a round or two of apolactoferrin (Jarrow or Life Extension perhaps) taken on an empty stomach to see if the root of your problems is an iron imbalance. It could very well cure your situation right up. Be sure to take the capsules without food so it don't bind minerals inside your G.I. tract and then take them into your system. So 30 to 60 capsules of apolactoferrin taken on an empty stomach once or twice a day.

Thank you, could you tell me a little more about that? How do you think it could help my situation? Is there a way to diagnose it with some lab tests for iron etc?

 

[marcar72]

Thank you, could you tell me a little more about that? How do you think it could help my situation? Is there a way to diagnose it with some lab tests for iron etc?

People use apolactoferrin to up their iron levels sometimes if that's what they need by taking it with iron containing food. Taken on the empty stomach the idea is that it'll enter your system "unloaded" and sequester free iron inside of your system. Bacteria use iron to proliferate so if you use apolactoferrin to sequester free iron you prevent the bacteria from having it. You might not want to try that or not it's up to you. Read up on lactoferrin and/or colostrum as they are supplements you can find in the immune section of a health food store.