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excellent mon, thanks for thisFor those that are supplementing greater amounts, do you experience increased appetite after a vit C load? It might indicate excess iron/copper. Coffee might work in a similar manner.
Excess Copper as a Factor in Human Diseases
"zinc, manganese, molybdenum with vitamin C supplements reduce their copper burden"
Little zinc in relation to the others is associated with anorexia:
Adverse Effects of Zinc Deficiency: A Review from the Literature
"That zinc status might be directly related to anorexia and bulimarexia is not new.[132] Already in 1934 research described the clinical manifestations of zinc-deficient animals besides growth retardation, testicular atrophy, skin changes etc., also a poor appetite.[133] Other studies have shown that food consumption of zinc deprived rats decreased 30% compared to controls, and that force feeding of these zinc deprived animals rapidly induced signs of ill-health. Furthermore, that the animals responded to zinc supplementation within 1-2 hours with increased food intake.[134,135] It has been also known that symptoms of zinc deficiency in humans leads to mental depression, neurosis, sleep disturbances as well as to a reduction in appetite.[5,136] The idea that zinc might be directly related to anorexia nervosa was first hypothesized Bakan[137] and Horrobin.[138] However, Bryce-Smith and Simpson were the first to demonstrate a case in which anorexia nervosa was simply and effectively treated by oral zinc supplementation,[139] hence the interest by other researchers.[140-142] Zinc deficiency may indeed play the major role in the development of anorexia nervosa in adolescents because it leads invariably to a suppression of appetite, primarily due to an impairment of taste and smell sensitivity.[4,143-147] Zinc is essential for the taste perception because taste is mediated through a salivary zinc dependent polypeptide termed gustin, therefore low salivary zinc levels invariably leads to a reduction of taste, hence to a greatly reduced appetite.[4,106,132] Zinc depletion is particularly detrimental during adolescents due to an increased demand for most nutrients, including zinc. Investigators have also noted, that oral contraceptive use in female adolescents was liable to impair zinc status.[148,149] In addition, psychological and physical stresses tend paradoxically to increase the urinary loss of zinc.[3,4,148-150] As a consequence, when zinc levels decline, the impairment of zinc-dependent taste can be expected further to reduce the desire for food.[132]"
Eluv: Effects Of Stress And Trauma On The Body
"things that are lost specifically by high stress which are protein, zinc, some of the D vitamins are turned over very fast in stress so foods like liver and oysters and eggs, which are rich in the trace minerals"
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An alternative to the massive vit C supplementation is to increase foods with those other trace minerals.