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Oxidal - Liquid Mix Of MB, Caffeine And Benzoic Acid

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, May 8, 2015.

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    Studies done by the company pushing nicotinamide riboside (NR) showed that a dose of 300mg and a dose of 1,000mg lead to the same increase in NAD after 24 hours. So, I guess there is probably no need to go up to 1g unless you have very serious inflammation. The 300mg daily dose also happens to be what Ray has consistently been recommending.
     
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    The human studies for depression, bipolar, psychosis, etc used 15mg daily which would be more than 30 drops of Oxidal. There were no notable side effects in these studies but just in case I would try to consume a few hours away from foods like chocolate and cheese.
     
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    The human trials with oral dose used 15mg daily but in hospitals where they use MB for recovery from shock, much higher doses of up to 500mg in a single dose and given through IV have been used. At those VERY high doses it can have risks related to serotonin syndrome, so I would try not to exceed the 15mg oral doses found safe and effective in the human studies.
     
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    Thanks Haidut!
     
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    is it ok to take t3 with methylene blue?
     
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    Refresh me please, only briefly...what's wrong w the above fruits...they are very nutritious...I eat some almost daily...is my head going to fall off?
     
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    I mean combining those fruits which contain actual serotonin with methylene blue (MAO inhibitor) may be a bad idea, but this is more of a question and caution, I don't know how reality would work out.
     
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    Well, I take a little MB several times a week...Have not noticed any negatives, but then I don't know what to look for so I 'll have to study it...if it's a problem for me then the MB goes, cause I see no great benefits...again, don't know what to look for there either...thanks for your reply
     
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    Is creatine safe to take with oxidal?
     
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    Travis suggested dietary serotonin wasn' t serotonergic in the brain (tryptophan is) but he also said it was oxidized by mao, so he wouldn't use a mao inhibitor with those foods. Hopefully he will answer and haidut may chime in with some thoughts of his on the potential issues with higher blood levels of serotonin (but not more serotonin activity in the brain.. e.g. fibrosis?). I know as much as you.
    Since I had big issues with hard cheese while others don't notice anything even taking multiple mg of mb I guess reactions can be wildly different among individuals, better be safe than sorry though.
     
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    Thank you for replying...would like to know more
     
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    Can you comment on the effects please?
     
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    I take it mainly with my meals ( on wrists) and feel warm doing so. Main aim is to keep metabolism high.

    It also has an “anti stress” effect for me. I feel calmer after taking some, on wrists again, within a few minutes.
     
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