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I Could Use Some Help On Lowering My Cholesterol

Discussion in 'Cholesterol' started by mamaherrera, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. mamaherrera

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    I'm 37 female. Got two docs on my case wiht high cholesterol and prediabetes. One wants me on Statins like yesterday and the other wants me to be a vegan. What to do? I have given up my 2 eggs daily and have lessened meat and shrimp. but here are my stats:
    Biggest thing: total cholesterol 262 and LDL 178, yikes. . and low vitamin D. I've been avoiding the sun because of all my sunspots. So that's annoying too. But here are all the stats.medical records0006.jpgmedical records0005.jpgmedical records0004.jpgmedical records0003.jpgmedical records0002.jpg
     

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  2. Tenacity

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    Some practical steps:
    • Improve thyroid function.
    • Increase consumption of cholesterol co-factors; vitamin A, light.
    • Eat coconut oil.
     
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    mamaherrera

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    thanks so much. . . and if I choose to do liver, how many grams per week is considered a good serving? Also, milk to improve thyroid right? the extra fruit and dairy will that affect my A1C?
     
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    I've seen/heard the suggestion that about 220g of liver weekly is a good amount to eat, in smaller amounts throughout the week if you are particularly hypothyroid.

    I'm not sure if milk is directly good for thyroid function. Enough protein is required to keep the liver healthy, and a healthy liver would keep thyroid function at an optimal level through improved conversion of T4 to T3. Milk is a good source of high quality protein.

    I don't know about the A1C. Peat has an article on diabetes and sugar that might be helpful: Glucose and sucrose for diabetes.
     
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    mamaherrera

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    thanks, gives me a starting poing. so you think milk is not the most important thing, so waht things should I focus on besides coconut oil, liver. . . anything else that would help?
     
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    Bringing the vitamin D up to a normal, or even an optimal range, would probably help as well.

     
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    mamaherrera

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    anything else you can think of would help me a lot. Very appreciative of your time!
     
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    Here is a good post on cholesterol by Haidut:

    “I think vitamin K in higher doses should be able to do for muscles what CoQ10 does. In addition, and unlike CoQ10, vitamin K2 lowers blood pressure and cholesterol. So, in combination with taurine, both your cholesterol and homocystein should go down. It usually takes about 4 weeks to see effects. How much taurine and K2 are you taking? You do understand that statins lower cholesterol in a very undesirable way, right? Taurine forces cholesterol utilization for creating bile salts and steroids, while vitamin K speed up synthesis of pregnenolone from cholesterol. Both of these methods are "good" ways to lower cholesterol. Statins inhibit cholesterol synthesis itself, which is about the most dangerous thing you can do cholesterol-wise given how much it is needed by every cell.”

    Co Q10
     
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    get some sun it will help convert some of that cholesteral to vitamin D, eat more fiber like salads, walk 5 - 10 miles a day...slow walking will begin to burn through those triglycerides and lower cholesterol it will also lower stress and help convert the cholesterol to needed hormones instead of cortisol.

    sunlight also stimulates the thyroid and balances out nuerochemicals in the brain through the eyes.

    eat more copper foods like nuts (walmuts and Pecans) and beans (black and Pinto) which also have fiber.

    this is podcast with some good cholesterol info check it out:

    https://myersdetox.com/transcript-21-cholesterol-clarity-with-jimmy-moore/
     
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    mamaherrera

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    What would be a good dose for vitamin K?
     
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    The fun part will be explaining all this to your Doctor. Mine has been after me with the statin death pill for years.
     
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    Is this true??
     
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    The other thing to bear in mind is why do you think high cholesterol is bad. It's a complete myth that high cholesterol is bad.
     
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    mamaherrera

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    What worries me is once i had testing of the big and small particles and i had more of the small ldl which is considered the worst
     
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    It’s not a myth if you’re young. If you’re old, fine it can go higher than 150/200 and assuming HDL is high enough it’s fine. If you’re 37 or anything below 50-60yo you don’t want a dyslipidemia. As per Ray Peat quotes above.
     
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    One important factor besides all the great answers you’ve received is stress management. Are you taking that into account? I don’t know your lifestyle obviously.

    Then to sum up a bit:
    - more fiber
    - less fat
    - more fruits and vegetables (a bit redundant)
    - more coconut oil / MCT might be even better
    - low stress physical activity preferably outside
    - use cronometer: get all fat soluble vitamins up
    - taurine is a great idea, glycine works well for the bile salts too
    - more potassium to boost the enzyme that converts cholesterol into pregnenolone (view point 3, I’d suggest potatoes too)
     
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    mamaherrera

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    That was very helpful and thanks to all . My final questions as you made it all very clear, but what is MCT and where can I get it from? I've been using land of lakes butter/olive oil spread but I doubt it's from grass fed cows, so maybe I need to change but I like it because it's soft. And I know Peat goes against vegetables but I feel I need them ,but really is raw completely bad, like if I like raw celery? Also, if there are any veggies I should avoid, please let me know. I will really work on all of those and I will update. I've been trying to keep my dietary cholestserol on chronometer under 200 so it scares me to see that liver will really beef it up. But I need to get over that fear and have faith. I am tempted to check my cholesterol now after two months of dietary cholesterol under 200 and then try these changes of putting saturated fat back in and eggs and liver and see what changes come.
     
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    Dietary cholesterol isn’t really a problem though, compared to every other variable it’s not significant
     
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    Nowhere in rays quotes above does it reflect what you're suggesting. All he's saying is that low cholesterol when you're old is dangerous. Not high cholesterol when you're young.

    "After the age of fifty, low cholesterol is clearly associated with an increased risk of dying from a variety of causes. A study of old women indicated that a cholesterol level of 270 mg. per 100 ml. was associated with the best longevity (Forette, et al., 1989)."Mortality was lowest at serum cholesterol 7.0 mmol/l [=270.6 mg%], 5.2 times higher than the minimum at serum cholesterol 4.0 mmol/l, and only 1.8 times higher when cholesterol concentration was 8.8 mmol/l. This relation held true irrespective of age, even when blood pressure, body weight, history of myocardial infarction, creatinine clearance, and plasma proteins were taken into account.

    "This relation held true irrespective of age"
     
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