1. juanitacarlos

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    This is a great introduction into humanism by Frank Furedi if anyone is interested. I think it is a 'philosophy' that most of us can relate to - being responsible for our destiny, not being dogmatic, searching for truth and being open to new ideas. I'll paraphrase one thing that Furedi said that really caught my attention: the problem we have as humans is that we are easily swayed by simplistic and dogmatic explanations that spare us the trouble of having to fix our own problems. I think that in health that could not be more true.
     
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    What a wonderful link! Thanks for sharing, I've had this topic on my mind recently and I think it's because I am now healthy enough to notice the world around me. I for one would like to do my part to help spread some basic kindness and compassion. Great topic.
     
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    Humanism sounds wonderful, until one takes a closer look at it's ideologies.

    Firstly, it promotes the concept of SITUATION ETHICS.

    "Situation Ethics" teaches man what is moral is determined by the
    individual and the situation in which the individual is involved. It is
    expressed as follows: "What is good for me may be evil for you; what is right
    to do at one moment may be wrong the next."

    Secondly, here are some interesting planks of the first humanist manifesto, and their implications that few people realise;

    -First: Religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing
    and not created.
    -Second: Humanism believes that man is part of nature and
    that he has emerged as a result of a continuous process.
    -Sixth: We are convinced that the time has passed for theism (a
    belief in a Creator.)
    -Fourteenth: The humanists are firmly convinced that the
    existing acquisitive and profit motivated society has shown itself to
    be inadequate. A socialized and cooperative economic order must
    be established to the end that the acquisitive distribution of the
    means of life be possible.

    Which means humanists are in line with Evolutionists, Atheists, and Communists.
    Humanism is just another way of introducing communism, under a disguised name. It's full of good intentions and promises, just as communism is.

    We know how that one turned out.

    http://www.google.be/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=& ... 8443,d.d2k
     
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    Wow! I had no idea about all of that.
     
  5. narouz

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    from Wikipedia:

    "Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over established doctrine or faith (fideism). The meaning of the term humanism has fluctuated, according to the successive intellectual movements which have identified with it.[1] Generally, however, humanism refers to a perspective that affirms some notion of a "human nature" (sometimes contrasted with antihumanism).
    In modern times, humanist movements are typically aligned with secularism and with non-theistic religions.[2] Historically however, this was not always the case.

    ...

    "Modern Humanists, such as Corliss Lamont or Carl Sagan, hold that humanity must seek for truth through reason and the best observable evidence and endorse scientific skepticism and the scientific method. However, they stipulate that decisions about right and wrong must be based on the individual and common good, with no consideration given to metaphysical or supernatural beings. The idea is to engage with what is human."[73]


    Rings a tad harmonious with Peat's view of the world, wouldn't you say?
     
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    burt - I might be missing something here. This is bad, how? Sounds like he is contextualising to assess each situation.
     
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    That sounds better.
     
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    I'd have to agree with them. But that sounds more like socialism rather than communism.

    BTW, pardon the pun, but what the hell is wrong with atheism?
     
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    critical thinking - evidence - rationalism - doctrine - reason - scientific skepticism

    The exact same words used VERBATIM by http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org, http://www.quackwatch.com/ and other disguised industry- attack dogs sites to persecute alternative practitioners like Ray while hushing any evidence that might expose the shameful corruption dominating mainstream medecine for the past 100 years.

    I've said it in the past, and i will say it again; what the hell are you doing on this site, Narouz ?
     
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    Have you never acted on your convictions once, only later to realise you were wrong ?
     
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    Do you see a difference ?
     
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    Yes, many, many, many times. Because I'm a human being and that is pretty much what we do. Have you?

    I'm not sure what you are trying to say here, could you clarify?
     
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    Do I see the difference between socialism and communism? If that is your question, yes. That's what I said. Did you mean something else?
     
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    What about Nazis?
    I hate those guys.
     
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    :grouphug2 I hate Nazi's too.
     
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    What about hipsters? Please tell me humanists aren't hipsters...
     
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    I think these words are abused by those websites, but the concepts themselves are very important for making good health decisions.

    Parts of both alternative and mainstream medicine are dangerous and/or ineffective; only a subset are effective and based on solid evidence and sound thinking. These are very hard for an individual to tell apart- really the only effective way I can see is to become an expert yourself, and form your own opinions.

    Websites like Quackwatch are not aware of the existence of actual scientific alternative medicine, and they confuse authority endorsement with evidence. They are trying to suggest that instead of becoming an expert one can trust official advice from certain organizations. Unfortunately, in many cases these organizations are also failing to apply critical thinking.
     
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    I don't know...

    If burt notes "Evolutionist, Atheists, and Communists" and humanists
    as the bad guys,
    I'm trying to figure out who he thinks the good guys are.

    The opposite of an evolutionist would be a creationist.
    The opposite of an atheist would be religious believer.
    The opposite of a Commie would be...
    well, let's say, a Tea Partier of the religious variety.

    So burt would seem to be championing a religious, creationist, Tea Partier.
    Somebody like this:


    [BBvideo 560,340:2wd428ss]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyD1kuZ31bo[/BBvideo]

    Well, ttramone...if you're a hipster like Braun, you're good!
     
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    Humanism is simply the same old human centeredness that we have seen for the last few centuries and what has spurred our current scientistic disaster. It starts as a reaction to catholic dogmas and ends with what we see today:

    HUMANS OVER EVERYTHING at the universal level

    and

    ME OVER EVERY OTHER HUMAN at the local level (see the "oh I'm so edgy" "reinterpretation" of morals)

    it is obvious that we must move forward. Check out the material in my signature and see if they don't affect you!
     
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