Green tea reduces estrogen

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  1. lexis

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    He follows the above statement with this study.

    Source: Green Tea and Estrogen
     
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    Well, that got my Max Gerson bells ringing full speed here....
    Gerson has used coffee enemas to support liver's detoxifying enzymes (glutathione S-transferase) for all his cancer patients

    The scientific Basis of Coffee Enemas
    http://www.google.be/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=& ... 4564,d.Yms

    Here's what they say about glutathione S-transferase and oestrogen detox:
    http://www.nhiondemand.com/expertspersp ... .aspx?id=6
     
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    Burtlancast-

    Any reason not to have em' just drink the coffee? The same researcher from the University of Minnesota mentioned in your comment have also shown oral consumption of coffee and related extracts increases glutathione S-transferase activity:

    http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/conte ... 3.full.pdf

    I'd curious if putting it in yer butt was really any better.
     
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    Maybe the butt is more enjoyable for some.
     
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    Interesting.

    But, according to your article, the degree of activation for ingested coffee seems to be a small fraction of the activation obtained by enemas.

    Cancer patients have all a very toxic liver, which can be helped only by coffee enemas; they dilate and flush out the bile ducts in the liver, making it less toxic, and prevent reabsorbtion of the bile and it's toxic products in the lower intestines.
     
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    Ray has experimental knowledge from scientific articles, yet there's no clinical trial of the full Gerson therapy for cancer patients.
    When you have cancer, drinking coffee won't be able to detox the liver the way enemas do.
    And if you don't help the liver to detox the blood, the patient will die of liver failure while their body has vanquished and digested the cancer through the general circulation.

    I'm aware there has been some trial including coffee enemas for cancer pain, with good results, but it has been buried/hushed/dismissed by the establishment in an instant.

    And, according to Charlotte Gerson, coffee enemas can be used for a lot of things, even if one hasn't got cancer; they can arrest a migraine in a matter of minutes, and have a detoxyfying effect on the blood and liver.
     
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    Have you heard of Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez? He has a cancer protocol that uses coffee enemas.

    Gonzalez Protocol Description at the National Cancer Institue

    I thought this was an interesting comment about coffee enemas under "Adverse Effects." ;)

    Adverse Effects

    BTW, I wouldn't do any serious research on cancer protocols at the National Cancer Institute but find it curious to see some of the "alternative" protocols listed there and how they are presented.

    A much more interesting resource for "alternative" cancer treatments is Cancer Tutor
     
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    The Gerson therapy has been "borrowed" and "modified" by a lot of alternative therapies.
    Gonzalez is just one example of them.
    And i'm not sure i trust the guy.

    But coffee enemas weren't invented by Gerson; he read in the medicakl litterature it was used in the first world war to alleviate pain when medications were in shortage.

    It has actually been listed in the Merck manual since that time, and removed in 1972 for "allegedly" shortage of space !

    http://www.peak-health-now.com/coffee-e ... tions.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_enema
     
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    Me neither. Just aware of his use of coffee enemas in his treatment.

    As for coffee enemas, I'd definitely use them given a need.
     
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    In Ayurveda, oil enema/vasti is used to administer medicated oil.
    It is lot like coffee enema, main difference is the use of oil.
    They believe that poor digestion is the source of all health issues
    and enema is a safer way to give the medicine. They use this particularly
    for Vata ( Air type) people who are dry in nature.
    I believe they do not like the idea of watery enema.
    It seems like a logical decision. They also use body massage to
    infuse medicated oil, that is a form of transdermal medication.
     
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    Actually, there isn't any evidence I've seen that enema coffee is better. That 600-700% increase in GSH S-transferase from your reference doesn't even seem to have come from a study on enema coffee, but coffee in the diet of the animals being studied.

    Drinking coffee for the win!
     
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    Actually, researchers found that in order to get the equivalent detox effect of one coffee enema, one needs to drink 1 liter of coffee:

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... fr&ct=clnk

    Considering that cancer people need 4, or even 6 coffee enemas a day, that would be brutal...
     
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    "I enjoyed reading this thread and all replies to it. I have been doing research on effect of regular consumption of green drink and green tea. I find this forum very useful in my research. Thanks for posting."

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