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The below graphs are a better picture than the recent selective financial times graphs.

Some countries have lower overall deaths than the same time period for the last few years, it would also be interesting to try correlate deaths even further back with data starting from the 90’s on to try see where vaccination specifically for Flu has begun en masse and see if mortality lowers accordingly.

Flu season spikes are evident, Italy has clearly had a flu spike problem for this time period.

Amazingly the Financial Times article doesn’t bother to discuss the glaringly obvious I the graphs below.

I’m surprised these graphs are even allowed stay up.https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/


https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
 

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So this confirms what FT is saying.

Now to make sense of this data:

Is the increase due to SARS-COV2's putative virulence?

Or is the increase due to the failure of the medical system to be responsive enough in implementing an appropriate treatment that would minimize fatal outcomes?

A similar set of graphs of countries in Asia- Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar - would provide some context.

It's important to understand this data as it would ensure that a good impartial analysis is made, so that it does not get spinned into a conclusion that fits a narrative.

If the medical system is inadequate and unresponsive, I hope that this failure does not get covered up and made into a narrative that seeks to heighten the virulence of the virus to where it becomes the sole focus and leaves out the failure of the medical system.
 
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So this confirms what FT is saying.

Now to make sense of this data:

Is the increase due to SARS-COV2's putative virulence?

Or is the increase due to the failure of the medical system to be responsive enough in implementing an appropriate treatment that would minimize fatal outcomes?

A similar set of graphs of countries in Asia- Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar - would provide some context.

It's important to understand this data as it would ensure that a good impartial analysis is made, so that it does not get spinned into a conclusion that fits a narrative.

If the medical system is inadequate and unresponsive, I hope that this failure does not get covered up and made into a narrative that seeks to heighten the virulence of the virus to where it becomes the sole focus and leaves out the failure of the medical system.

It doesn’t fit their narrative to be honest, a more unbiased view is needed, Sweden’s curve is the telling one, no complete shutdown and the second wave should be lower, of course with new definitions for coronavirus who knows what narrative the second wave will be.

Some countries with strict shutdown have less deaths than they normally would,surely this would be higher with a deadly infectious virus even with a shut down, keep in mind the shut down was delayed so the claim that shut down is the sole reason for less deaths is telling.
Remember some of these countries were instructed to more or less leave the elderly to die on closed ventilators, this is insanity, this attitude started in Italy, this region has issues with flu deaths historically speaking, I would check for ventilator use here, it’s one of the richest parts of Italy so it’s likely the hospitals private and public are well equipped, the UK also.

It keeps unfolding but trying to establish what the treatments were as you mentioned is necessary, one issue is the ventilator problem,the richer the country the more death rates as it stands, with poorer countries without the capacity for ventilators they may have less deaths, the death certs and general statistics may be easier to corrupt in poorer countries though and the crisis narrative will suit their leaders encouraging them to pump the deadly propaganda narrative, best take it with a grain of salt.
 
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first picture week 11 2020, second picture week 2 2017, third picture week 1 2018

??? Take a very close look at March 2017??


THIS is the first picture which is March 2020

This is a flu season graph
 

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It doesn’t fit their narrative to be honest, a more unbiased view is needed, Sweden’s curve is the telling one, no complete shutdown and the second wave should be lower, of course with new definitions for coronavirus who knows what narrative the second wave will be.

Some countries with strict shutdown have less deaths than they normally would,surely this would be higher with a deadly infectious virus even with a shut down, keep in mind the shut down was delayed so the claim that shut down is the sole reason for less deaths is telling.
Remember some of these countries were instructed to more or less leave the elderly to die on closed ventilators, this is insanity, this attitude started in Italy, this region has issues with flu deaths historically speaking, I would check for ventilator use here, it’s one of the richest parts of Italy so it’s likely the hospitals private and public are well equipped, the UK also.

It keeps unfolding but trying to establish what the treatments were as you mentioned is necessary, one issue is the ventilator problem,the richer the country the more death rates as it stands, with poorer countries without the capacity for ventilators they may have less deaths, the death certs and general statistics may be easier to corrupt in poorer countries though and the crisis narrative will suit their leaders encouraging them to pump the deadly propaganda narrative, best take it with a grain of salt.

Does the theory that virus prevalence in a region hold any weight?
 

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Does the theory that virus prevalence in a region hold any weight?

Well, it is not totally weightless, but it is worthless. The larger the region that you look at the faster the data starts to become worthless. There are just too many variables.

There was a medical learning curve to dealing with this virus; think over use of ventilators which may have boosted mortality numbers. There might be a local pollution component to the mortality. Most importantly, there is over reporting deaths as corona virus deaths. In the county that I live in there have been 30 deaths attributed to the virus out of the 348,000 people; yet the entire county is locked down and wearing masks. In reviewing the data, the oldest person who died in my county was 109. To me that is a death from old age not from a virus. The median age of those thirty deaths was 69 years of age. Sweden may have had the right idea. Protect the elderly and let the economy hum along.

These things and others make the numbers seem unreliable.
 
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Does the theory that virus prevalence in a region hold any weight?

With the delay in lockdowns I’m not so sure, I would look at regions and their net worth overall, Spain and Italy for example would be interesting to see if more deaths happen in wealthier areas, Lombardi in Italy is considered wealthy compared to southern Italy so institutions should be better stocked equipment wise. That’s on the books wealth by the way, most southern Italian wealth isn’t reported because of tax dodging, mafia etc The average age of death is high, the elderly must do much worse on those ventilators.
 
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These graphs took a change today ,Netherlands death rate has dropped off a cliff.
 
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Sweden is now below the red on these charts , not that it spiked much in the first place. Estonia is not in this map nor will they make the media headlines ,their death rate is very low.

COVID 19 shutdowns require more than government inquiry’s that pass with no serious repercussions for those who pushed this.
Some of the biggest shills and scaremongers outside big pharma of this saga have been the climate hysterics and it’s good to keep this in mind going forward as they look to build their green projects with tax money.

It’s going to be wag the dog/change the story frenzy soon to cover up some the emerging facts like -

Ferguson’s models were based on exponential growth that the virus never had.
Ferguson’s models run off one cpu and are full of bugs, imperial college won’t release the actual model but some good software engineers are pulling a similar version apart and it’s riddled with bugs.
Ferguson has links to climate change movements via the lady he broke lock down restrictions to have an affair with while folks from lower social classes are arrested for breaking lock down restrictions.
Banks and big corporate groups have been bailed out for trillions ,socializing losses ,it’s capitalism when they are winning ,socialism when they lose.
Ventilators kill people ,induced comas etc
 

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I highly suggest checking out the graphs of the @EthicalSkeptic on Twitter, he makes great presentations of the data. Here is his website.

The Ethical Skeptic
 
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I highly suggest checking out the graphs of the @EthicalSkeptic on Twitter, he makes great presentations of the data. Here is his website.

The Ethical Skeptic

Thanks ,this blog looks very interesting in general.
This whole covid-19 saga is fraudulent at this point.
 

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Sweden is now below the red on these charts , not that it spiked much in the first place. Estonia is not in this map nor will they make the media headlines ,their death rate is very low.

COVID 19 shutdowns require more than government inquiry’s that pass with no serious repercussions for those who pushed this.
Some of the biggest shills and scaremongers outside big pharma of this saga have been the climate hysterics and it’s good to keep this in mind going forward as they look to build their green projects with tax money.

It’s going to be wag the dog/change the story frenzy soon to cover up some the emerging facts like -

Ferguson’s models were based on exponential growth that the virus never had.
Ferguson’s models run off one cpu and are full of bugs, imperial college won’t release the actual model but some good software engineers are pulling a similar version apart and it’s riddled with bugs.
Ferguson has links to climate change movements via the lady he broke lock down restrictions to have an affair with while folks from lower social classes are arrested for breaking lock down restrictions.
Banks and big corporate groups have been bailed out for trillions ,socializing losses ,it’s capitalism when they are winning ,socialism when they lose.
Ventilators kill people ,induced comas etc
they don't care. They'll amass armies of everyone they brought to zero and unleash them on who's left.
It's how you kill ants without poison. You take a scoop of one pile and drop it on a different pile and they all kill each other.
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we need to find correlations and figure out why this may be occuring this way, compare quarantine, compare treatment, compare ventilator rate, compare age by percentage of country etc. ill do some more looking tomorrow.
 

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The below graphs are a better picture than the recent selective financial times graphs.

Some countries have lower overall deaths than the same time period for the last few years, it would also be interesting to try correlate deaths even further back with data starting from the 90’s on to try see where vaccination specifically for Flu has begun en masse and see if mortality lowers accordingly.

Flu season spikes are evident, Italy has clearly had a flu spike problem for this time period.

Amazingly the Financial Times article doesn’t bother to discuss the glaringly obvious I the graphs below.

I’m surprised these graphs are even allowed stay up.


https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

Have you seen the death rates for flu and all cause mortality? They have inexplicably dropped to near zero, far below they were in any other year since record keeping began.

They are reporting all kinds of deaths as COVID 19 related because of monetary incentives created through the emergency stimulus package.
 

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I highly suggest checking out the graphs of the @EthicalSkeptic on Twitter, he makes great presentations of the data. Here is his website.

The Ethical Skeptic
In younger days I was privileged to have served as a top ranked Naval Officer – highly sought for the most premium deployed operational theater, Washington D.C. and flag-level support billets in the United States Navy. I have served as a Director level, Black Top Secret Specially Compartmented Intelligence Officer. I am professionally trained in the ability to prosecute a solution and recognize agency inside asymmetry. I have headed a classified research lab which developed groundbreaking scientific discovery on behalf of very grateful stakeholders. I have traveled the globe extensively for decades, holding 4 million frequent flier miles. I’ve been shot at, sequestered by violent regimes, met with opposing empire intelligence agents, nearly been knifed, performed surveillance on pirate businesses and been held at at gunpoint by mercenaries and juntas. I can spot a poseur from a mile away. My skills set includes observing and elucidating the habits of those who practice corruption and agency as a matter of social protocol.

I both chair and fund an endowment at my alma mater for financially disadvantaged students, as well as advise its post graduate schools on what industry needs most from new graduates. I was selected to tour a U.S. President and First Lady around our University campus. I have advised several G8 world leaders, several US Senators, and 4 other heads of state globally in my respective professions. And no, do not allow a fake skeptic to instruct you that this type of impact is not accomplishable inside one lifetime. It is exactly such lazy, self-centered cynicism which hinders their accomplishing similar; failing to understand that critiquing skills come at a dime a dozen and obtaining a professional category title or sitting around writing a book do not constitute pinnacles of life achievement.

sounds...skeptical
 
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they don't care. They'll amass armies of everyone they brought to zero and unleash them on who's left.
It's how you kill ants without poison. You take a scoop of one pile and drop it on a different pile and they all kill each other.
Headlines With A Voice

Very interesting about ants ,is that true? Same species just different colony?
 
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we need to find correlations and figure out why this may be occuring this way, compare quarantine, compare treatment, compare ventilator rate, compare age by percentage of country etc. ill do some more looking tomorrow.

Exactly ,it’s happening , can’t call everyone a conspiracy theorist or fake news but they will try I’m sure.
 
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Have you seen the death rates for flu and all cause mortality? They have inexplicably dropped to near zero, far below they were in any other year since record keeping began.

They are reporting all kinds of deaths as COVID 19 related because of monetary incentives created through the emergency stimulus package.

The lower income social classes are possibly targeted more here with death cert manipulation, it’s common for doctors to get away with malpractice amongst the lower social classes because their perceptive capacity/intelligence is clouded by stress. It also cost money for lawyers.
If the statistics from new York show lower socioeconomic status amongst the dead it’s telling IMO, also looking at homeless deaths and deaths with no next of kin will be interesting ,if a lot of these deaths are covid 19 it will be telling.

Keep in mind though it’s PCR testing which amplify RNA strands you’ll find covid 19 much easier with this test ,RNA present doesn’t prove a whole lot unless symptoms are present, viral load is more important, antibodies etc.
They have stuck with this test and are using it in a way to inflate the numbers, if the whole population was tested with PCR the numbers wouldn’t be so scary to the public.
 

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The lower income social classes are possibly targeted more here with death cert manipulation, it’s common for doctors to get away with malpractice amongst the lower social classes because their perceptive capacity/intelligence is clouded by stress. It also cost money for lawyers.
If the statistics from new York show lower socioeconomic status amongst the dead it’s telling IMO, also looking at homeless deaths and deaths with no next of kin will be interesting ,if a lot of these deaths are covid 19 it will be telling.

Keep in mind though it’s PCR testing which amplify RNA strands you’ll find covid 19 much easier with this test ,RNA present doesn’t prove a whole lot unless symptoms are present, viral load is more important, antibodies etc.
They have stuck with this test and are using it in a way to inflate the numbers, if the whole population was tested with PCR the numbers wouldn’t be so scary to the public.
Doctors? The health department? Nopes. These guys.
Headlines With A Voice
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Warp Speed.
And btw Fauci's jabs are on a tear.
Believe what you see. It's going down warp speed.
 

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Doctors? The health department? Nopes. These guys.
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Rick_Heskey

Warp Speed.
And btw Fauci's jabs are on a tear.
Believe what you see. It's going down warp speed.

These have to pass the house though right? I’m not that familiar with American politics. Still hilarious though and 6666 lols!
Im guessing they present laws as a way to look busy also, the guy in the third video is doing the right thing and compiling all suggested laws passed or not that infringe on your rights.

The ECB over here just gave a disconcerting response to the German Supreme Court rulings about quantitive easing carried out in 2015, the German Supreme Court deemed it illegal and the ECB more or less said it doesn’t care what the Supreme Court thinks because EU law supersedes it, it certainly does not because it has to be accepted by the people and the European Union have never pushed countries as far as their trying now for more euro, they are attacking constitutions all over the world, what counts is the people’s will to still deem their constitutions valid, if people walk the other way the EU law is worthless.
 
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