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It is very strong to take that much, you can try with even 1 drop. I find it enough. Also very good for your liver and digestion!

I have been using Alep soap without glycerin for years. I mean as toothpaste.... Also I clean my brush with it afterward.

Changes:
- I was using xylitol powder only once per day at night, I will after every meal and snack.
- I was clearing my mouth sometimes with baking soda, and will diminish the dose, to stay nearer to a neutral pH. I still like it after orange juice or lemon!
(clearing means I do not brush with it)

And I am looking for siwak... Actually I had tried to sow seeds but they failed, so I will look for more seeds! I you find a good supplier, tell me!

And what about home made gummy bears with xylitol? :)
I sure will give you the resource for the siwak if I find one that I like. Great idea to grow it! That would be the BEST. Keep trying with your seeds. Hey, maybe you can supply for as of us?!?! LoL.

Great idea about gummies with xylitol. I will look up recipes and see what xylitol is like to cook with...
 
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from my leukemia notes re Xylitol

Chew your way to fewer ear and upper respiratory infections
OK, here is a more upbeat and fun little factoid.

Vaccine. 2000 Dec 8;19 Suppl 1:S144-7.

Xylitol in preventing acute otitis media.

Uhari M, Tapiainen T, Kontiokari T.

Department of Paediatrics, University of Oulu, FIN-90220 Oulu, Finland. [email protected]

Xylitol is a polyol sugar alcohol and is referred to as birch sugar, because it can be produced from birch. Natural sources of xylitol include plums, strawberries, raspberries and rowan berries. Xylitol inhibits the growth of Streptococcus pneumoniae and it inhibits the attachment of both pneumococci and Haemophilus influenzae on the nasopharyngeal cells. In two clinical trials xylitol was found efficient to prevent the development of acute otitis media with a daily dose of 8.4-10 g of xylitol given in five divided doses. The efficacy in these 2-3 months follow-up trials was approximately 40% when chewing gum was used and approximately 30% with xylitol syrup. The need to use antimicrobials reduced markedly when using xylitol. In a high-risk group of children with tympanostomy tubes xylitol was ineffective in preventing otitis. Xylitol appears to be an attractive alternative to prevent acute otitis media. A more practical frequency of doses should be found before its use can be widely recommended.

PMID: 11163479

Xylitol is a sugar substitute. You can find it in the forms of lozenges, chewing gum, syrup, nasal spray, mouthwash etc. The abstract above reports on a clinical trial done in Finland, using a large group of high risk pediatric patients. Lo and behold, it reduced the incidence of severe ear infections, to the tune of 40%, when children chewed gum containing xylitol.

Wikipedia has a very nice write-up on this interesting molecule, easily readable, so I won’t belabor the points made there. Basically, xylitol has half the calories of plain table sugar, no after taste and no known toxicity. Here are a few quotes, for those of you lazy enough not to click on the link:

  • Xylitol is a “tooth-friendly”, nonfermentable sugar alcohol; dental health benefits in caries prevention; recent research confirms a plaque-reducing effect.
  • Bacteria prefer fermentable six-carbon sugars (i.e., normal table sugar), or disaccharides such as sucrose, as opposed to the nonfermentable xylitol, whose antimicrobial properties then “starve” the bacteria, reducing their growth and reproduction.
  • Xylitol also inhibits the growth of Streptococcus pneumoniae, as well as the attachment of Haemophilus influenzae on the nasopharyngeal cells. (since strep and flu cells find it harder to attach to the cells of of your nose and throat in the presence of xylitol, there is hope for reduced bronchitis, pneumonia etc. As I have told you on many previous occasions, the single biggest cause of death in CLL patients is lung infections in general, pneumonia in particular).
  • Studies have shown xylitol chewing gum can help prevent ear infections.
  • Xylitol has been found to increase the activity of neutrophils, the white blood cells involved in fighting many bacteria. This effect seems to be quite broad, acting even in cases such as general sepsis. (but please be aware this is from an animal study. I have not been able to find a similar study in humans).
So, how reliable is all this good news? Some of you may be aware of a group called the Cochrane Collaboration. This group does an excellent job of looking at clinical trial results and sorting out credible stuff from poorly done studies or results biased by ugly agendas. Well, we are fortunate that they have looked at the Finnish study and in their considered opinion, the results are valid. You can read the full chapter and verse of their findings here. While these studies were done with pediatric patients, I am reasonably convinced that the results are equally valid in the case of adults. Xylitol is quite safe (except to dogs, so please be careful), so the risk is minimal. Like chewing gum? Choose to chew xylitol containing gum. Use a mouthwash? Find a brand that contains xylitol. Frequent bronchial infections during the flu season? There are all kinds of nasal sprays available that contain xylitol.

upper respiratory infections are often the end for those w leukemia......
Amazing post! Thank you @bzmazu :):
 
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I just heard a one liner from Dr Ellie and she said, " Don't blame me if your teeth turn grey with MIswack Sticks."

So take it for what you think.

She also told a story about this group of dentists at a meeting and they had a contest of sorts on whose oral health had the least detrimental bacteria in their mouths. It averaged between 50-70% favorable bacteria while hers was 98%. Then a dentist approached her and said he would challenge her system and do it and at the next meeting he would report the findings. He did the system and at the next meeting his good bacteria had soared into the 90's%
She has a lot of clinical experience and is telling us how to do it for free.
 
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I just heard a one liner from Dr Ellie and she said, " Don't blame me if your teeth turn grey with MIswack Sticks."

So take it for what you think.

She also told a story about this group of dentists at a meeting and they had a contest of sorts on whose oral health had the least detrimental bacteria in their mouths. It averaged between 50-70% favorable bacteria while hers was 98%. Then a dentist approached her and said he would challenge her system and do it and at the next meeting he would report the findings. He did the system and at the next meeting his good bacteria had soared into the 90's%
She has a lot of clinical experience and is telling us how to do it for free.
Funny you should mention that about the sticks. After I spent an hour researching it, I was not impressed. I think I will stick to that crest she recommends, and my earthpaste (ONLY xylitol, clay, peppermint oil, and sea salt).
 

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from my leukemia notes re Xylitol

Chew your way to fewer ear and upper respiratory infections
OK, here is a more upbeat and fun little factoid.

Vaccine. 2000 Dec 8;19 Suppl 1:S144-7.

Xylitol in preventing acute otitis media.

Uhari M, Tapiainen T, Kontiokari T.

Department of Paediatrics, University of Oulu, FIN-90220 Oulu, Finland. [email protected]

Xylitol is a polyol sugar alcohol and is referred to as birch sugar, because it can be produced from birch. Natural sources of xylitol include plums, strawberries, raspberries and rowan berries. Xylitol inhibits the growth of Streptococcus pneumoniae and it inhibits the attachment of both pneumococci and Haemophilus influenzae on the nasopharyngeal cells. In two clinical trials xylitol was found efficient to prevent the development of acute otitis media with a daily dose of 8.4-10 g of xylitol given in five divided doses. The efficacy in these 2-3 months follow-up trials was approximately 40% when chewing gum was used and approximately 30% with xylitol syrup. The need to use antimicrobials reduced markedly when using xylitol. In a high-risk group of children with tympanostomy tubes xylitol was ineffective in preventing otitis. Xylitol appears to be an attractive alternative to prevent acute otitis media. A more practical frequency of doses should be found before its use can be widely recommended.

PMID: 11163479

Xylitol is a sugar substitute. You can find it in the forms of lozenges, chewing gum, syrup, nasal spray, mouthwash etc. The abstract above reports on a clinical trial done in Finland, using a large group of high risk pediatric patients. Lo and behold, it reduced the incidence of severe ear infections, to the tune of 40%, when children chewed gum containing xylitol.

Wikipedia has a very nice write-up on this interesting molecule, easily readable, so I won’t belabor the points made there. Basically, xylitol has half the calories of plain table sugar, no after taste and no known toxicity. Here are a few quotes, for those of you lazy enough not to click on the link:

  • Xylitol is a “tooth-friendly”, nonfermentable sugar alcohol; dental health benefits in caries prevention; recent research confirms a plaque-reducing effect.
  • Bacteria prefer fermentable six-carbon sugars (i.e., normal table sugar), or disaccharides such as sucrose, as opposed to the nonfermentable xylitol, whose antimicrobial properties then “starve” the bacteria, reducing their growth and reproduction.
  • Xylitol also inhibits the growth of Streptococcus pneumoniae, as well as the attachment of Haemophilus influenzae on the nasopharyngeal cells. (since strep and flu cells find it harder to attach to the cells of of your nose and throat in the presence of xylitol, there is hope for reduced bronchitis, pneumonia etc. As I have told you on many previous occasions, the single biggest cause of death in CLL patients is lung infections in general, pneumonia in particular).
  • Studies have shown xylitol chewing gum can help prevent ear infections.
  • Xylitol has been found to increase the activity of neutrophils, the white blood cells involved in fighting many bacteria. This effect seems to be quite broad, acting even in cases such as general sepsis. (but please be aware this is from an animal study. I have not been able to find a similar study in humans).
So, how reliable is all this good news? Some of you may be aware of a group called the Cochrane Collaboration. This group does an excellent job of looking at clinical trial results and sorting out credible stuff from poorly done studies or results biased by ugly agendas. Well, we are fortunate that they have looked at the Finnish study and in their considered opinion, the results are valid. You can read the full chapter and verse of their findings here. While these studies were done with pediatric patients, I am reasonably convinced that the results are equally valid in the case of adults. Xylitol is quite safe (except to dogs, so please be careful), so the risk is minimal. Like chewing gum? Choose to chew xylitol containing gum. Use a mouthwash? Find a brand that contains xylitol. Frequent bronchial infections during the flu season? There are all kinds of nasal sprays available that contain xylitol.

upper respiratory infections are often the end for those w leukemia......

This is very convincing information. Thanks for providing it.
 

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It is very strong to take that much, you can try with even 1 drop. I find it enough. Also very good for your liver and digestion!
I know peppermint is good for digestion and anti-bacterial; however I have read many reports that it is very estrogenic. Any concerns or is it too minute to effect the body?
 

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from my leukemia notes re Xylitol

Chew your way to fewer ear and upper respiratory infections
OK, here is a more upbeat and fun little factoid.

Vaccine. 2000 Dec 8;19 Suppl 1:S144-7.

Xylitol in preventing acute otitis media.

Uhari M, Tapiainen T, Kontiokari T.

Department of Paediatrics, University of Oulu, FIN-90220 Oulu, Finland. [email protected]

Xylitol is a polyol sugar alcohol and is referred to as birch sugar, because it can be produced from birch. Natural sources of xylitol include plums, strawberries, raspberries and rowan berries. Xylitol inhibits the growth of Streptococcus pneumoniae and it inhibits the attachment of both pneumococci and Haemophilus influenzae on the nasopharyngeal cells. In two clinical trials xylitol was found efficient to prevent the development of acute otitis media with a daily dose of 8.4-10 g of xylitol given in five divided doses. The efficacy in these 2-3 months follow-up trials was approximately 40% when chewing gum was used and approximately 30% with xylitol syrup. The need to use antimicrobials reduced markedly when using xylitol. In a high-risk group of children with tympanostomy tubes xylitol was ineffective in preventing otitis. Xylitol appears to be an attractive alternative to prevent acute otitis media. A more practical frequency of doses should be found before its use can be widely recommended.

PMID: 11163479

Xylitol is a sugar substitute. You can find it in the forms of lozenges, chewing gum, syrup, nasal spray, mouthwash etc. The abstract above reports on a clinical trial done in Finland, using a large group of high risk pediatric patients. Lo and behold, it reduced the incidence of severe ear infections, to the tune of 40%, when children chewed gum containing xylitol.

Wikipedia has a very nice write-up on this interesting molecule, easily readable, so I won’t belabor the points made there. Basically, xylitol has half the calories of plain table sugar, no after taste and no known toxicity. Here are a few quotes, for those of you lazy enough not to click on the link:

  • Xylitol is a “tooth-friendly”, nonfermentable sugar alcohol; dental health benefits in caries prevention; recent research confirms a plaque-reducing effect.
  • Bacteria prefer fermentable six-carbon sugars (i.e., normal table sugar), or disaccharides such as sucrose, as opposed to the nonfermentable xylitol, whose antimicrobial properties then “starve” the bacteria, reducing their growth and reproduction.
  • Xylitol also inhibits the growth of Streptococcus pneumoniae, as well as the attachment of Haemophilus influenzae on the nasopharyngeal cells. (since strep and flu cells find it harder to attach to the cells of of your nose and throat in the presence of xylitol, there is hope for reduced bronchitis, pneumonia etc. As I have told you on many previous occasions, the single biggest cause of death in CLL patients is lung infections in general, pneumonia in particular).
  • Studies have shown xylitol chewing gum can help prevent ear infections.
  • Xylitol has been found to increase the activity of neutrophils, the white blood cells involved in fighting many bacteria. This effect seems to be quite broad, acting even in cases such as general sepsis. (but please be aware this is from an animal study. I have not been able to find a similar study in humans).
So, how reliable is all this good news? Some of you may be aware of a group called the Cochrane Collaboration. This group does an excellent job of looking at clinical trial results and sorting out credible stuff from poorly done studies or results biased by ugly agendas. Well, we are fortunate that they have looked at the Finnish study and in their considered opinion, the results are valid. You can read the full chapter and verse of their findings here. While these studies were done with pediatric patients, I am reasonably convinced that the results are equally valid in the case of adults. Xylitol is quite safe (except to dogs, so please be careful), so the risk is minimal. Like chewing gum? Choose to chew xylitol containing gum. Use a mouthwash? Find a brand that contains xylitol. Frequent bronchial infections during the flu season? There are all kinds of nasal sprays available that contain xylitol.

upper respiratory infections are often the end for those w leukemia......
this is great info. raypeatforum is the best site around! Now if I could only get similarly good proctological info I'd have both ends taken care of!
 

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I know peppermint is good for digestion and anti-bacterial; however I have read many reports that it is very estrogenic. Any concerns or is it too minute to effect the body?
You are right, and it makes period come, stops milk in mothers and cannot be given during pregnacy.

But remember it is part of Atrantil that really works!

Really really good for liver, so use it but not always.

Laurus nobilis is good for the mouth. And also colds, sinus...
It is even good against streptocoques, virus, and candida, all fungi. Also neurotonic, stimulates immune system.

Alternate plants! If you accept that taste is worse than the smell, lavander is a very good choice too. Very safe.
 

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Well... Finally i've found something for the dr/ Ellie protocol.

For those who live in EU :

For Xylitol - Xylimax pastilles by Fazer (xylitol, sodium E470a, cellulose gum e466, gum arabic E414, natural flavourings, colour, glazing agents) - each 2 pastilles contain about 1 g of xylitol

For toothpaste without glycerine - elmex sensitive (aqua, sorbitol, hydrates silica, hydroxyethylcellulose, olaflur - aminofluorid, peg-4 hydrogenated castor oil, aroma, sodium saccharin, titanium dioxyde)

Listerine Cool Mint is not a problem to get. The problem is to get Anticavity Fluoride Rinse. But there is a new product by Listerine wich is called LISTERINE FLUORIDE DEFENSE® Anticavity Mouthwash - and it has all the ingredients of Listerine Cool Mint plus fluoride (though only 0,02% of fluoride - while in ACT there is 0,05%). So i think i will try to use it insteas both of Listerine Cool Mint and ACT.


I think it is very close to the original protocol. I hope so :)
 

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There is already a thread about calcium therapy, and I have orderded their products. Do you say it did not work for you for your gums?
 

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My wife bought some CloSys many months ago, but I never wanted to use it (why would I want to put chlorine dioxide in my mouth?)

After reading this I gave it a try, 2x/day this past week. I notice an increase in my appetite almost immediately after doing it, which lasts most of the day. I'm guessing that's due to a reduced bacterial load in the mouth, probably extending to the stomach.

I've also started chewing Spry xylitol gum 2-3x/day.
 
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Made my candies from my post above link!! Sooooo easy and yummy :) I altered the recipe a bit:
*Did not use candy thermometer and most likely did not get as hot.
*Cooled for only 5 min before adding food grade peppermint essential oil.
*Put 10 drops (instead of recipe's 5 drops).
*Did not need to cool overnight. Cooled in 30 min.
*Broke into small pieces and let finish cooling maybe 10 min. Put in Jar ❤️❤️

Really taste yummy - and cheap. I bought the Xyla brand she used in recipe. It was 7.99 for one pound bag at Whole Foods.

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Made my candies from my post above link!! Sooooo easy and yummy :) I altered the recipe a bit:
*Did not use candy thermometer and most likely did not get as hot.
*Cooled for only 5 min before adding food grade peppermint essential oil.
*Put 10 drops (instead of recipe's 5 drops).
*Did not need to cool overnight. Cooled in 30 min.
*Broke into small pieces and let finish cooling maybe 10 min. Put in Jar ❤️❤️

Really taste yummy - and cheap. I bout the Xyla brand she used in recipe at Whole Foods.

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Cool....don't eat them all tonight! lol
 
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