Help me understand myself through "symptoms" and Peat's way of understanding ourselves

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Peat brings a new way of understanding the human beins, ourselves.
I would like to interprete how I feel through this understanding.
This is my first goal, before deciding and following any advice, or doing any test or taking any supplement etc.

You might share this passion of understanding, and most of you will understand and surely have become as myself "good specialists" after reading and more reading on Internet!

So I have written a sort of story, with my understanding and dietetic tries....
What of my guess do you suppose true, and what do you think is not, through what I did not see?
We are all usually betterat seeing at others stuff than ours!!

I have a guess that I am hypothyroid + lack of progesterone.

BUT I do not have all the symptoms and might be compensing (producing cortisol?) as I look more hyper than hypo... I am slim and active for example. I almost always sleep well. My 2 motors for energy are
1) projects that bring enthousiam
2) Being late :oops: so that I have to hurry up. Then I can forget I am tired.

I never took any major medication in my life.
As I obviously have inflammations, my real fear is to have something in the range of auto-immunity problem.

The clear symptoms that I have now:
- I have low temperature (Exercising is efficient to warm me up), low pulse. I tend to have low blood pressure.
- I lost outer eyebrows, some legs’ hairs, and also my hair is thinner than before.

Then pre-menaupause:
- I had some hot flashes in January, and took essential oil of salvia sclarea. How can it work? This is estrogen-like! Now I don’t want it!
I have very irregular periods now, after a life of quite regular ones. Very little syndroms, some occasional belly aches the 1st day, and breast tension the days before, but not always. And I think I am sterile.

Other suffering and annoyances I have:
- I usually have to pee during the night. It seems better since I eat sugar.
- I have headaches regularly, cervicals on the left side and going up to the eyes, and often with nausea. I think I can link it to not drink enough and stress.
- What bothers me most are physical pains in muscles and tendons. I feel "rusted" when I get up even from my chair, Achille tendons ache and then it goes away with warming. I have elbow tendinitis, shoulders are not so great either, and some pains here and there. I had been diagnosed with a beginning of fatigue and fibromyalgia. I said no to it, went away, and stress went away, and pain as well! But stress comes back one day, and the rest.
- I tend to have swollen eyes in the morning and to be unable to eat before drinking a lot. Even an orange make my throat and gums swell! I had something more as a child: Any scratch on the skin will appear white and then red and stand out so that I could even write on myself with a nail! I guess that is what is called dermographism.

In the past, to give more clues...
Digestion has always been a problem. I am 15 years off gluten now, and gradually saw that I should go off carbs as well.
My diet became some sort of paleo / GAPS.

On the other hand, the paradoxe is that I am as they say “never ill”. My immunity seems high. I don’t know how I can escape that well all viruses when so many people around have diarrhea or flue. My almost only cause of accelerated transit is carb eating (well, and a logical abuse of honey those days when re-introducing it!!).

I was born at 8 months just when my mother stopped working in a lab with solvents like ethanol. Always thought it was the cause of some problems....
As far as I can remember I had bad digestion.
My body temperature was not the normal 37ºc but 36ºc or even a little under when I was younger. My heart beats were 60, and I went down to 45 with sport. About aspirine, when given it during fever, I was getting highly nervous, so never took it anymore since early childhood.

I was warned about a weak liver and pancreas when I was 10-11. I had sugar in urine at age 18, and tests showed that my glucose levels were too slow to go down. They just told me to avoid sugar if I wanted to avoid diabetis...
My journey into dietetics had started!

I avoided sugar but ate carbs. I “knew” that sunflower was the best oil... etc. Any time I ate sugar, I had a big red pimple on the chin or nose... So, what, it really looked as a “bad guy”! I tried fructose products (powdered fructose and fructose marmelade), but it seems the cause of tooth decay (confirmed by another person who had the same result).
Honey always tends to give me gases, why?

Going off gluten was a success... for a few years.
Then I saw that I needed to go further. Off carbohydrates (cereals and potatoes) is great, but as I thought I could not eat sugar, I went high fat as a logic. I am lucky to live in a place with fruits and bananas, which suit me well.

Honestly, that was better thanks to a healthy diet until I got some stress those last 2 years. It seemed as if I had lost the benefits of the 2 previous years.
The begining of the high fat diet last year was super great, thanks to the mix of banana, avocado, egg yolk, olive oil and cocoa, plus coconut oil and ghee.
I grow good veggies and bought beef and chicken, though not of the best quality here. I could get an occasional ox-tail, or bones and made bone-broth.

I had learned about the over-eating of omega 6, so tried to use omega 3 seeds more, especially daily chia, and no omega 6 in form of oil, only the whole seed. I suppose that some excess omega and the lack of sugar were the dietetic mistakes I did.

I went worse this winter because of the relative lack of fruits, ripe bananas and eggs. I also tried twice to re-introduce gluten-free cereals like rice and buckwheat, which was a failure. I was feeling electric in my body, almost shaky. As I am not fond of sardins and other fat fish, I was going to buy fermented cod liver oil, which led me to Ray Peat and the only text against fish oil. Thanks God for my ever curious nature and love of controversy!

Now the changes in my diet:
- I eat more fruits (papayas are available now!),
- drink coffee, still without sugar (I live in a sub-tropical place with abundant fruits, and I really prefer black coffee)
- suppressed pufa seeds like chia, almonds, sunflower, pumpkin...
- increase my intake of dairies (but my nose is becoming more runny, and a nostril is stuck every morning, so what?)
- reduced even the good fats.

Any comment about my story welcome, such as sharing what you have equal to me, or with what differences etc.
Also, as my readings are new, what you know Peat says and can explain how I could be like this.
As they diagnosed me with chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia a few years ago, I felt quite victorious and happy, I am on the right track, and want to feel better because some pains are coming back. I guess the premenaupause is not helping me.... Thanks for helping me understand better and take the best path!
 

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Lucky you having fresh ripe papayas available!

I don't know if the milk is affecting your nose, but I can keep my nose clear at night by mechanically helping my mouth stay shut.

I guess you've read the several articles Peat has written that mention fibromyalgia? That and tendon trouble sound like lowish thyroid function to me. Can't remember if you have posted about thyroid lab results or about monitoring your temps and pulse?

How much are you eating? Have you had a go at assessing whether you are mostly getting more calcium than phosphorus?
 
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I even had 2 papayas already in the garden....
My best luck is called garden!
And the work to tend it is keeping me up also.
tara said:
I guess you've read the several articles Peat has written that mention fibromyalgia? That and tendon trouble sound like lowish thyroid function to me. Can't remember if you have posted about thyroid lab results or about monitoring your temps and pulse?

How much are you eating? Have you had a go at assessing whether you are mostly getting more calcium than phosphorus?
I did not find any title that directed me to read abut fibro and tendons!

I do not have heath insurance now, and I did not do any lab tests.
Well, I have to check what contains phosphorus to know about this ration.
I had my temps and pulse from chidhood, as low as 35,5ºC instead of 37, and pulse as a child was 60.

I just know I eat many times a day and never restrain.
I have always been slim. 1m65 and between 50-55 kgs. now 50 and did put 1 kg I think when reintroducing honey and eating more fruits.

I think what I read around confirms low thyroid and compensating with stress hormns.

Might be low progesteron the basis of the problem.
But what is causing what?? You know, the story of egg or hen 1st....
I guess I could not be pregnant. Never tried hard but never was careful enough to "escape" that well!
 
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I also decided to grow cane sugar, just got some cuttings....

I think about you all here when I got to the local market, because they sell the BEST drink you would love!
Freshly expressed ornage juice with freshly expressed cane juice.... 2€ a glass.
And thanks Peat, I do not avoid this anymore!

And I ordered progesteron-E from electrical body, thanks to the supplement forum!
 

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You can check what nutrients are in your food with cronometer [dot] com. Typically:
High phosphorus: meat, beans, grains
Higher calcium than phosphorus: milk, cheese, leafy greens.

If those are still your temps and pulse, than low thyroid seems likely.

Fibromyalgia is mentioned in these articles - I used the search box on the left of the page:
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fa ... tion.shtml
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/water.shtml
http://raypeat.com/articles/aging/trypt ... ging.shtml

Dan has also set up a more comprehensive search function for all the Peat text sources he is aware of of at http://www.toxinless.com/peat/search

The achilles tendon reflex test used to be used as a common part of diagnosing hypothyroid states. Because low thyroid can make it hard for tendons to get enough energy to relax quickly and fully. I have had a number of tendon injuries, and always had tight achilles, and I think this is a low thyroid sign. So getting thyroid and energy production up may help with tendon issues. Some of my slow healing ones have improved a lot in the last year.
 
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Thanks Tara,
I do not have internet at home, so I keep all I can in the shortest time, and read it off line back home.

There is 1 mystery to me....
How could I be great with a high fat diet?
My only sugars were some fruits, fresh and dry, and bananas every day.

I have a sort of banana mayonnaise with cocoa that could keep me full of energy, with silent happy guts, for hours without being either hungry nor tired. I could eat 1l of olive oil per week with no problem, thanks to the emultion.

I think I can interprete my story like this:
Intoxicated as a fetus with solvents, born with a slow metabolism, liver and pancreas not working very well, which led to low thyroid, low progesterone. It went worse because of the common belief that came out about "sunflower oil is better for you" (which my mother believed).

Is there a way to get better thyroid function without taking thyroid supplements?
 
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At the moment, I slow down coffee, and I do not take much sugar appart from fruits, raisins and dates.
I do not want to increase that quick, because I have already noticed some difficulties: I feel more nervous, more energy coupled with a deep tiredness. So I also tend to not go to bed early (I read Peat....) and thus be tired. I had a period with less good sleep, when I ate too sweet.

The feeling I have is that I have more available sugar, and that my body do not burn it well. I hope this will regularise by itself when my body will accept this sugar for burning.

I was a diesel car, and I turned to gazoline!
 

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Yes, I had to start white sugar slowly. At first, only 1/4 teaspoon in coffee. I had always used just milk or cream in my coffee, never sugar. So, a slow start. (I was very anti- white sugar before.) But as Peat says, fruit is always better with the nutrients in it. Not in coffee tho !! ha

About the thyroid, there might be a way. Peat said he drank about 40 cups of coffee a day until he discovered thyroid. But it seems Peat has answered that question... somewhere.

The Broda Barnes book got me started in the 90s, although I had read it in the 70s. It's written in a friendly way and not hard to follow. Peat does recommend it too.

Those three articles Tara gave the link for above are good ones. I just re-read them. Love his use of the term "estrogen industry."
 

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Xisca said:
Is there a way to get better thyroid function without taking thyroid supplements?
I've read stories of people who say they've done it. I have not succeeded myself, yet, and so far have only supplemented with a little chicken neck stock.

If the root cause is undereating, which leads to adaptive reduction in thyroid function so we have better odds of surviving the famine, then sometimes just bringing the calories up to a suitable level seems to have been enough to make a big difference for some people. No guarantees that it would be enough for any particular individual, though. Avoiding particularly anti-thyroid substances (eg PUFAs, coleslaw, etc) while getting plenty of carbs and protein and all the micronutrients should theoretically improve the odds.

Many of the tactics discussed in this forum are about getting diet and other factors (eg light, CO2) to support strong metabolism.
 
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"Surviving the famine"....
You make me think about the adaptative factor!
Might come from my parents and the war, I am very focussed on this subject with some sort of "preventing the famine" psyche!

All this in ourselves is absolutely automatic. So, it might be that working on the autonomous system reaction can help decide the thyroid to go out of this reduction/saving energy pattern.

At the moment I eat as much as I want of all fresh foods apart from PUFA and grain of any sort.
In the oxygen test I am at only 20 seconds, so Buteyko might help.
I knew about him only for asthma (that I don't have)!
 
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I have started the low dose of eutyrox, 25mg.
I do not feel any change.
I had some things going on, but I think they are more general.
For example I can get more furious, I feel more my anger when I have before. I usually never get angry.... I think that hypo-everything can be a way of the body to feel less, as it can be uncomfortable to feel!!!!!!!!!

I do not eat a lot of sugar because I have fruits and honey.
But I got a reaction of "yuk" with sweet taste!
I have eaten some cheese this morning, in the garden! foraging for herbs!
It came because yesterday I had a migraine... with nausea and upset stomach.

I can feel that to some extend sweet and salty tastes exclude each other, I just cannot mix.
When I eat one, I do not want the other. I think we also need veggies.
 

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I've been surprised as I've hit my mid 40s what a mistake it was to avoid sunlight in my 30s. I think that caused the hormonal imbalances as much as anything else.

Next would be carbs: eating too many or too few. I'm off year round high carbs; I don't think they raised my metabolism one bit, only made me tired and fat. My temps go up just fine without them.

Pufas are a real problem, though, and I think I should not have had the weekly Panda bowl. 3 years of restricting and I feel better. Adding back saturated fats and cholesterol has helped. I'm not any longer convinced that omega 3s are so problematic, and think it was the other factors that caused my peri problems.
 
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