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The current situation is so sad, although my country (Brazil) is calm now, i am really sad by the fact the most people are falling into the narrative and I think a lot of them will turn against me LoL. How to stay calm in this situation?

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This thread is embarrassing. Look at me I'm so woke on nutrition but am clueless about everything else.

Hey look, the liberals beat the fascists then installed a vaccine pufa porn regime, let's complain about fascism, the very thing the liberals jabbing us complain about. I'm very enlightened.
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Something like this is not helping at all. For some reason i was hoping that the demonstration in vienna may accomplish something but all i see this causing is them going even harder at us. Fueling even more hate towards the already discriminated.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Austria/comments/qy4y7p/friedliche_demo_natürlich_gleich_mal_ein_paar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I made the mistake to read the comment section on a mainstream news website yesterday. I thought I was hardened by now, but still I was shocked. Calls for murder against demonstrators now seem to be considered good manners.
 

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Calls for murder against demonstrators now seem to be considered good manners.
Unfortunately people when they do not agree on something they tend to end up bringing this sort of talk, especially when ironically they are in a large group tend to "let" the negativity out.
 

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All I come to realise from reading these posts is that the unvaccinated hate the vaccinated as much as the vaccinated hate the unvaccinated.
Divide and conquer accomplished.
 
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All I come to realise from reading these posts is that the unvaccinated hate the vaccinated as much as the vaccinated hate the unvaccinated.
Divide and conquer accomplished.

In my experience, it is mostly the vaccinated calling for:

a) forced vaccinations
b) segregation
c) access restriction based on vaccination status
d) telling everyone else to "take the jab"
e) claiming we're uneducated, conspiracy theorists, antivaxxers

I had a tetanus shot 2 years ago. I don't go to groups of vaxxed people insulting them, wanting to remove them from society, preventing them from taking the shot if they want to take it, etc.

I just want to be left the **** alone. It's pretty clear the vaccine does nothing to stop transmission. Hence, at best, it lowers my own risk of dying, and affects nobody else. According to official statistics my risk of dying is something like 0.5% (which I think is still inflated, but whatever, let's roll with it). So, given the uncertainty of the long term effects of the vaccine, and the many unknowns surrounding it, I've weighed that I don't want any of that.

And for that I get called names, shunned, looked down on and probably even far worse (from the worst of psychos).
 

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All I come to realise from reading these posts is that the unvaccinated hate the vaccinated as much as the vaccinated hate the unvaccinated.
Divide and conquer accomplished.

Seem quite a provocative claim, untrue, one that elicits replies from people.

I think many should not even have to explain themselves how they do not have the vaxxed.
Most just want to be left alone without being called names, labeled in various negative ways.
 

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Well, there are a lot of posts here saying think like the vaccinated deserve to die etc, that is unkind in my opinion.
 

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In my experience, it is mostly the vaccinated calling for:

a) forced vaccinations
b) segregation
c) access restriction based on vaccination status
d) telling everyone else to "take the jab"
e) claiming we're uneducated, conspiracy theorists, antivaxxers

I had a tetanus shot 2 years ago. I don't go to groups of vaxxed people insulting them, wanting to remove them from society, preventing them from taking the shot if they want to take it, etc.

I just want to be left the **** alone. It's pretty clear the vaccine does nothing to stop transmission. Hence, at best, it lowers my own risk of dying, and affects nobody else. According to official statistics my risk of dying is something like 0.5% (which I think is still inflated, but whatever, let's roll with it). So, given the uncertainty of the long term effects of the vaccine, and the many unknowns surrounding it, I've weighed that I don't want any of that.

And for that I get called names, shunned, looked down on and probably even far worse (from the worst of psychos).
It is not only uncertain long term effects. Those are still unknown as you said. But there are KNOWN almost-immediate effects, a recent example :
 

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I suspect the whole thing is about to collapse, hence the full-on dictatorship. Most Western EU countries are heavily vaxxed and are experiencing more infections than last year. So, when even the vaxxed start to question the narrative, the gloves come off. There is no coming back from this. No courts, laws, constitutions, etc have any meaning any more, at least in EU.
I Think so too. It will surely fall apart in Spring '22, maybe even earlier, if this goes on like that.
Even my own Work and Social Circle (which is mostly Vaxxed) are even start questioning the Narrative.

Strange Thing is, i think they can surely do the Mandate earlier, if they wanted to. Why are they specially choosing the First Febuary of 2022?.
And isn't also ''Truth Social'' from Trump going Online (or going to pre-order) around Febuary 2022?.
And we have also the ''Ghislane Maxwell''/Eppstein Case which (slowly) begins to start now?
And The Vaccine Approvals. Aren't they also running out in December '21/January '22 for the most Part?
It will surely be interesting the Next few Months, that's for sure.

I would agree.

Cross culturally/politically in my cricles, there are very few who are into the lockdowns, let alone forced vaccination at this point.
They start force poking people, 'merica is gonna go full "shall not infringe".
I had a interesting Conflict a few Days ago, with my best Female Friend (which i know for over 10 Years).
She wanted that i take the Jab and didn't understand why i'm against this Vaccine. Despite showing here conflicting Evidence.
She even Rejected me (Friendshiply) and said to me, that she does not want to hug me for greetings (which she ALWAYS did). She was saying that i'm a ''risk'' to her and should Vaccinate and i'm ''undereastimating the Actual Covid-Situation''.

I immediately quit our Friendship and said to her, ''That's Enough'' and ''i'm a Human Being and not a Risk''. And that she should use Common-Sense. Never Heard from her, since that. I even now a ONS of mine, which is even now STILL believing that ''Everything is Good'' and ''Government does this for our Health'' and so forth. It will be a harsh Awakening for some of them, that's for sure.
 

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Seen this on the news just minutes ago.
Now the question is how many countries will follow suit?
Our Country will surely do. Our Bavarian Premier ''Markus Söder'' even said, that a Vaccination Mandate is not out of the Question for Germany and Bavaria in General.
I Think around March/April/May, they will annouce it (if the Narrative does NOT fall apart, which i don't believe). Or the Wait and see what happens in Austria.

Chancellor Shallenberg did even meet the Son of ''George Soros'', and even has Connections to Gates and Schwab, which does not wonder me in the slightest, that they go this Route now.

It was surely a shocker here in Germany (after they announced it), that's for sure.
Even more and more Vaxxed People are starting to Question this Narrative now.


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Do you know, what causes this ''Aggressiveness'' in Vaxxed People?. I know it's a strange Question. But i notice more and more People having a certain Kind of ''Aggressiveness'' and ''Short Tempered Personality'' after getting Jabbed. Is this from the Jab itself (Hormonal Reason) or rather from the Rules and Restrictions from the last 1,5 Years that the Elite are Opposing?!.
 

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@haidut
Do you know, what causes this ''Aggressiveness'' in Vaxxed People?. I know it's a strange Question. But i notice more and more People having a certain Kind of ''Aggressiveness'' and ''Short Tempered Personality'' after getting Jabbed. Is this from the Jab itself (Hormonal Reason) or rather from the Rules and Restrictions from the last 1,5 Years that the Elite are Opposing?!.

I want to express what I have expressed already somewhat, if the press and government officials say constantly that "we cannot go back to how we lived before the pandemic until all people are vaxxed" then people will get angry at those who's fault they claim it is.
So right now the whole pandemic still going on is claimed to be the fault of unvaxxed people.

So if someone robs you of your way of life you will be angry at that person even without any jabs sort of situation like now.
Not to mention if you think your entire community was robbed of their health and freedom.
 

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All I come to realise from reading these posts is that the unvaccinated hate the vaccinated as much as the vaccinated hate the unvaccinated.
Divide and conquer accomplished.
What is an example of hatred expressed here in these posts?
 

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I want to express what I have expressed already somewhat, if the press and government officials say constantly that "we cannot go back to how we lived before the pandemic until all people are vaxxed" then people will get angry at those who's fault they claim it is.
So right now the whole pandemic still going on is claimed to be the fault of unvaxxed people.

So if someone robs you of your way of life you will be angry at that person even without any jabs sort of situation like now.
Not to mention if you think your entire community was robbed of their health and freedom.
Yes, this makes sense.

Also, I want to say that I've been reading people's reports on their visits to EU countries. I find it shocking that people in Genoa and Luxembourg, for example. report complete submission to masking, testing, and Green Card type checkpoints. People are happy to comply with the government rules. So, there are some countries seemingly happy to comply. But these are big cities, perhaps it's different in rural areas.
 

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I do not think rural areas are that much different, I mean many rural people rely on government checks, subsidized agriculture, EU funds for local developing (park, street, lighting, etc)
I mean government and authority is seen as actually supporting the way of life to either small or large extent.
Many of the European rural areas exist because lots of non-refundable cash is spent there, otherwise migration to cities would be way bigger than sporadically shown as now in videos about Italy selling houses for 1 EUR.
 
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Our Country will surely do. Our Bavarian Premier ''Markus Söder'' even said, that a Vaccination Mandate is not out of the Question for Germany and Bavaria in General.
I Think around March/April/May, they will annouce it (if the Narrative does NOT fall apart, which i don't believe). Or the Wait and see what happens in Austria.

Chancellor Shallenberg did even meet the Son of ''George Soros'', and even has Connections to Gates and Schwab, which does not wonder me in the slightest, that they go this Route now.

It was surely a shocker here in Germany (after they announced it), that's for sure.
Even more and more Vaxxed People are starting to Question this Narrative now.


@haidut
Do you know, what causes this ''Aggressiveness'' in Vaxxed People?. I know it's a strange Question. But i notice more and more People having a certain Kind of ''Aggressiveness'' and ''Short Tempered Personality'' after getting Jabbed. Is this from the Jab itself (Hormonal Reason) or rather from the Rules and Restrictions from the last 1,5 Years that the Elite are Opposing?!.

Serotonin and estrogen are the primary drivers of aggression. Not just in the vaxxed, but in any person. You my have heard of "roid rage" - bodybuilders going berserk and highly aggressive from using steroids. The studies that looked at this found out only aromatizable steroids or ones with agonist acvitity on the ERa receptor cause uncontrolled rage/aggression. SSRI drugs are also well-known to cause aggression/hostility and it is even listed as a known/common side effect. Many vaxxed are on SSRI and/or estrogen (birth control). The ones that are not, probably have the high serotonin/estrogen from the injection, as a result of the inflammatory reaction. And of course, since life for them not easy either, everybody is getting more aggressive due to the oppression/tyranny they experience, vaxxed or unvaxxed alike.
 
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All I come to realise from reading these posts is that the unvaccinated hate the vaccinated as much as the vaccinated hate the unvaccinated.
Divide and conquer accomplished.

I think the vaccinated are angry at the unvaccinated and the unvaccinated think the vaccinated people are stupid or weak, "hating" I haven't seen. There is as always racist idiots, and i may be out of the loop avoiding the news, but where are you seeing a lot of "hate" on either side?
 
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