CDC: We have no idea how many are vaxxed/unvaxxed in the USA

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...and, more importantly, it is probably the first direct official admission at such a high level that the number of vaxxed has been (grossly?) overestimated. By how much? Well, CDC doesn't know...and is no hurry to find out. Probably, so that mainstream media can continue to gaslight the public that majority of Americans are vaxxed, and the unvaxxed are only a tiny, fringe group of lunatics /s
I bet the story is not much different in other countries, especially the EU, UK, Canada, Australia, etc. Apparently, no official stats coming out from the govt can be trusted, which seems to be an opinion that even some govt officials themselves are holding.

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"...The US Centers for Disease Control has overcounted the number of Americans who have received Covid-19 vaccines, recording numerous second doses and boosters as first shots, state officials told Bloomberg. While the CDC’s data suggests some 240 million Americans have received at least one shot, the statistics claim just 203 million are fully vaccinated, a statistic which would suggest 37 million Americans started - but did not finish - their course of injections. However, state and local officials who spoke to Bloomberg on Saturday found those numbers “improbable,” suggesting instead that the government had incorrectly recorded Americans’ vaccine data on a grand scale, mis-counting second doses and booster shots as first doses and thus overestimating the number of vaccinated Americans altogether."
"...“We don’t have any faith in the numbers on the CDC website, and we never refer to them,” Philadelphia Department of Public Health spokesman James Garrow told Bloomberg. The state of Pennsylvania lowered its estimate for adults who’d received one shot from 98.9% to 94.6% last month, and plans to submit another round of revised figures by the end of the year. The state of Illinois found it had overcounted both the unvaccinated and the fully-vaccinated - with 540,000 more unvaxxed over the age of 12 and 730,000 totally vaccinated who had somehow been skipped in previous counts. While the official statistics appear to indicate the US - with 72.5% of its population having received at least one shot but just 61.3% fully-vaxxed - is a major outlier compared to other Group of Seven countries, the discrepancy is more likely to be due to the fragmentation of recordkeeping. According to Bloomberg's statistics, the European Union has just a 2.6% gap between the singly-vaxxed and the fully-jabbed, and while the US has the largest disparity at 11%, the UK is second among G7 nations with a 6.7% gap."
"...If changes are made to the national data on the scale of Pennsylvania's revisions, this would mean increasing the number of Americans who are unvaccinated by more than 10MM. "The truth is, we have no idea," said Clay Marsh, West Virginia's Covid czar."
 
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Not surprising at all. They have manipulated data left and right, so why believe them about the percentage of the vaxxed?
 

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...and, more importantly, it is probably the first direct official admission at such a high level that the number of vaxxed has been (grossly?) overestimated. By how much? Well, CDC doesn't know...and is no hurry to find out. Probably, so that mainstream media can continue to gaslight the public that majority of Americans are vaxxed, and the unvaxxed are only a tiny, fringe group of lunatics /s
I bet the story is not much different in other countries, especially the EU, UK, Canada, Australia, etc. Apparently, no official stats coming out from the govt can be trusted, which seems to be an opinion that even some govt officials themselves are holding.

@Drareg @Regina @tankasnowgod @boris @Giraffe @Ben.

"...The US Centers for Disease Control has overcounted the number of Americans who have received Covid-19 vaccines, recording numerous second doses and boosters as first shots, state officials told Bloomberg. While the CDC’s data suggests some 240 million Americans have received at least one shot, the statistics claim just 203 million are fully vaccinated, a statistic which would suggest 37 million Americans started - but did not finish - their course of injections. However, state and local officials who spoke to Bloomberg on Saturday found those numbers “improbable,” suggesting instead that the government had incorrectly recorded Americans’ vaccine data on a grand scale, mis-counting second doses and booster shots as first doses and thus overestimating the number of vaccinated Americans altogether."
"...“We don’t have any faith in the numbers on the CDC website, and we never refer to them,” Philadelphia Department of Public Health spokesman James Garrow told Bloomberg. The state of Pennsylvania lowered its estimate for adults who’d received one shot from 98.9% to 94.6% last month, and plans to submit another round of revised figures by the end of the year. The state of Illinois found it had overcounted both the unvaccinated and the fully-vaccinated - with 540,000 more unvaxxed over the age of 12 and 730,000 totally vaccinated who had somehow been skipped in previous counts. While the official statistics appear to indicate the US - with 72.5% of its population having received at least one shot but just 61.3% fully-vaxxed - is a major outlier compared to other Group of Seven countries, the discrepancy is more likely to be due to the fragmentation of recordkeeping. According to Bloomberg's statistics, the European Union has just a 2.6% gap between the singly-vaxxed and the fully-jabbed, and while the US has the largest disparity at 11%, the UK is second among G7 nations with a 6.7% gap."
Same deal in Europe and the UK -https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/uk-government-report-admits-there-are-23-5-million-people-in-england-who-have-not-had-a-single-dose-of-a-covid-19-vaccine.44308/#post-746994

This is nuts, people are now subscribing to narratives to avoid facing reality, it’s identical to a religion, if the veil of delusion is pulled back folks will have to realize the medical establishment is making them worse and slowly killing them, this can’t be believed, too much for the low energetic minds to cope with.

We are back on to the case hysteric narrative now, still no public discussion about the amplification cycle and it’s fraudulent use, again the narrative is potent and more important than facts.
 
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if the veil of delusion is pulled back folks will have to realize the medical establishment is making them worse and slowly killing them, this can’t be believed, too much for the low energetic minds to cope with.

Been going on for a long time, apparently. Even George B. Shaw spoke about it. The first and last sentence in that quote below are almost haunting.
"...All that can be said for medical popularity is that until there is a practicable alternative to blind trust in the doctor, the truth about the doctor is so terrible that we dare not face it. Moliere saw through the doctors; but he had to call them in just the same. Napoleon had no illusions about them; but he had to die under their treatment just as much as the most credulous ignoramus that ever paid sixpence for a bottle of strong medicine. In this predicament most people, to save themselves from unbearable mistrust and misery, or from being driven by their conscience into actual conflict with the law, fall back on the old rule that if you cannot have what you believe in you must believe in what you have. When your child is ill or your wife dying, and you happen to be very fond of them, or even when, if you are not fond of them, you are human enough to forget every personal grudge before the spectacle of a fellow creature in pain or peril, what you want is comfort, reassurance, something to clutch at, were it but a straw. This the doctor brings you. You have a wildly urgent feeling that something must be done; and the doctor does something. Sometimes what he does kills the patient; but you do not know that; and the doctor assures you that all that human skill could do has been done. And nobody has the brutality to say to the newly bereft father, mother, husband, wife, brother, or sister, “You have killed your lost darling by your credulity.”"
 

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The mountain of lies we live in daily, if it has a smell, you would not smell it. As you are born into it. You quickly get used to the stench.

We are only beginning to get our senses back.
 

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The mountain of lies we live in daily, if it has a smell, you would not smell it. As you are born into it. You quickly get used to the stench.

We are only beginning to get our senses back.
Sadly most are ignorant of their ignorance
 

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When i first heard this story, I thought another coverup to maintain the vaccines work narrative. Now that a lot of people are getting sick, especially in highly vaccinated states, ohh we miscalculated, actually they are not vaccinated that is why, go get vaccinated.
 

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Now that a lot of people are getting sick, especially in highly vaccinated states, ohh we miscalculated, actually they are not vaccinated that is why, go get vaccinated.
But... are they?

People are always "getting sick" in some way or another. Is there any evidence that they are getting sick, or seriously ill, at a rate higher than normal for this time of year?
 

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...and, more importantly, it is probably the first direct official admission at such a high level that the number of vaxxed has been (grossly?) overestimated. By how much? Well, CDC doesn't know...and is no hurry to find out. Probably, so that mainstream media can continue to gaslight the public that majority of Americans are vaxxed, and the unvaxxed are only a tiny, fringe group of lunatics /s
I bet the story is not much different in other countries, especially the EU, UK, Canada, Australia, etc. Apparently, no official stats coming out from the govt can be trusted, which seems to be an opinion that even some govt officials themselves are holding.

@Drareg @Regina @tankasnowgod @boris @Giraffe @Ben.

"...The US Centers for Disease Control has overcounted the number of Americans who have received Covid-19 vaccines, recording numerous second doses and boosters as first shots, state officials told Bloomberg. While the CDC’s data suggests some 240 million Americans have received at least one shot, the statistics claim just 203 million are fully vaccinated, a statistic which would suggest 37 million Americans started - but did not finish - their course of injections. However, state and local officials who spoke to Bloomberg on Saturday found those numbers “improbable,” suggesting instead that the government had incorrectly recorded Americans’ vaccine data on a grand scale, mis-counting second doses and booster shots as first doses and thus overestimating the number of vaccinated Americans altogether."
"...“We don’t have any faith in the numbers on the CDC website, and we never refer to them,” Philadelphia Department of Public Health spokesman James Garrow told Bloomberg. The state of Pennsylvania lowered its estimate for adults who’d received one shot from 98.9% to 94.6% last month, and plans to submit another round of revised figures by the end of the year. The state of Illinois found it had overcounted both the unvaccinated and the fully-vaccinated - with 540,000 more unvaxxed over the age of 12 and 730,000 totally vaccinated who had somehow been skipped in previous counts. While the official statistics appear to indicate the US - with 72.5% of its population having received at least one shot but just 61.3% fully-vaxxed - is a major outlier compared to other Group of Seven countries, the discrepancy is more likely to be due to the fragmentation of recordkeeping. According to Bloomberg's statistics, the European Union has just a 2.6% gap between the singly-vaxxed and the fully-jabbed, and while the US has the largest disparity at 11%, the UK is second among G7 nations with a 6.7% gap."
"...If changes are made to the national data on the scale of Pennsylvania's revisions, this would mean increasing the number of Americans who are unvaccinated by more than 10MM. "The truth is, we have no idea," said Clay Marsh, West Virginia's Covid czar."
I was just talking about this. I figured they were trying to manipulate the unvaxxed by saying saying, “See, you are a tiny minority and a crazy republican. Just get the damn shot.” I also though Omicron was sprinkled around I’m low vaxxed place to further the agenda and backfired. Peak Prosperity found that it mutated from Alpha skipping all the other mutations. It could be explained if an animal reservoir housed it and did not pass it around much, but of course that is unlikely. The info is behind a pay wall or I would share it. Peter McCullough talks about it in his interviews but he’s super generous and just says it’s good fortune for us. Bwahahaha.
 

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When i first heard this story, I thought another coverup to maintain the vaccines work narrative. Now that a lot of people are getting sick, especially in highly vaccinated states, ohh we miscalculated, actually they are not vaccinated that is why, go get vaccinated.
That’s another good theory. It’s all a joke.
 

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"...All that can be said for medical popularity is that until there is a practicable alternative to blind trust in the doctor, the truth about the doctor is so terrible that we dare not face it.

And nobody has the brutality to say to the newly bereft father, mother, husband, wife, brother, or sister, “You have killed your lost darling by your credulity.”"
The biggest obstacle to people having the “peat” gestalt switch (just being an autonomous human being) is trusting their own judgment. It takes a combination of experience, knowledge, analytical skill, foresight. Being a bit of a wise guy makes it easier to get your own autonomy going.

The culture will place every obstacle in front of you: ridicule, conflict, ruin your reputation, make it hard to get good work, lose your friends, put a dent in your relationships. If you have a bag of pure aspirin crystals in your freezer but the label markets it for animals then you are the kook.

But you see the desperate state people who remain closed in by the culture are in. They are in pain & fear, they understand that the medical treatments & prescribed drugs, education, law, the state are doing the precise opposite of what they say they are doing. Many die believing that’s it’s good anyway.

They have nothing else.

And they can’t imagine relying on their own judgement. The culture killed their capacity to imagine that before it killed them. So much energy goes into preventing that self-reliance & confidence from early childhood.

In that state, even fascist totalitarianism would look good.
 

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When i first heard this story, I thought another coverup to maintain the vaccines work narrative. Now that a lot of people are getting sick, especially in highly vaccinated states, ohh we miscalculated, actually they are not vaccinated that is why, go get vaccinated.
Solid logic. These people are like a termite in a yoyo.
 

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Yep, in at least two German states (Bavaria and Hamburg) the local government leaders claimed that a large proportion of those newly infected were unvaccinated. Turned out that they didn't know the vaccination status of two thirds of these people and automatically counted them as unvaccinated. They have no idea how many people are "vaccinated".
 

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It may not seem like it, but the implications are enormous. If the CDC was properly risk-adjusting their statistics (that seems only responsible, right?), then this recounting of the beans is on the order of the difference between

  • "highly effective" and "not really worth cardiac and neurological roulette", or
  • "not really worth cardiac and neurological roulette" and "no efficacy, just roulette".
I built a quick simple spreadsheet to relate the point. I did not dig up current risk-stratification to be fully precise, but if you've seen those charts, you know I'm not way off here. What we see is that the risk-profile of the unvaccinated cohort in this grand experiment just nearly doubled:


With more than 1,000 Americans dying per day with the highest risk group highly vaccinated, and suspiciously uncharacteristic deformation of seasonal respiratory virus patterns, maybe the CDC needs an escape route from the "maybe it's a pandemic prolonged by vaccination?" question, so as to muddy all waters (you know, for the twentieth time)? But this comes with the cost of appearing both completely incompetent and leaving behind forensic evidence looks a lot like fudging data to engineer the appearance of efficacy.
 

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What's uncharacteristic about this? Respiratory deaths are always highest in the fall/winter.
Did you click on the link? If so, does that look characteristic to you? Of course not, because the COVID-19 statistics are anything *but* characteristic -- they are highly manipulated, and probably also cover for "vaccine" injuries and deaths. So highly manipulated, that they don't even follow historical seasonal respiratory virus patterns.

See, for example, emergency room visits for past flu seasons. The year with the earliest peak (at week 43, end of October) is 2009, while in the latter half of 2021 we already had a peak towards the end of August, with admissions beginning to mount significantly towards the middle of July, which is highly suspect for a purported seasonal respiratory virus.
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Did you click on the link? If so, does that look characteristic to you?
I did, and it does. Lowest in the summer, higher in the fall and winter. The recent drop in admissions is odd, considering it should be going up in the winter months. But that could simply be due to reporting discrepancies.
Of course not, because the COVID-19 statistics are anything *but* characteristic -- they are highly manipulated, and probably also cover for "vaccine" injuries and deaths.
True, and they also cover for motorcycle crash deaths, cancer deaths, parkinsons deaths, heart failure deaths, kidney failure deaths, and who knows what else
So highly manipulated, that they don't even follow historical seasonal respiratory virus patterns.
It seems like they do, however.

See, for example, emergency room visits for past flu seasons. The year with the earliest peak (at week 43, end of October) is 2009, while in the latter half of 2021 we already had a peak towards the end of August, with admissions beginning to mount significantly towards the middle of July, which is highly suspect for a purported seasonal respiratory virus.
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I don't think you can compare these two graphs. The first is percentage of ER beds taken, the second is not a percentage, but simply "hospital admissions." Since there are almost 1 Million hospital beds in the US, the second graph hasn't even hit 10%.
 

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