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Here is why Pfizer asked for 50+ years to release vaccine study data...

Sergey

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Yes, the 5% mortality is a mistake. If you go through the 2ng and 3rd page of the thread you will see the discussion on that. The problem is that FDA/Pfizer have redacted the data on how many vaccines have been administered in the period covered by the report so it is impossible to get a clear picture of vaccine mortality rate or rate of SAE. There is no reasonable argument why FDA/Pfizer would not release the numbers of vaccine administered in that 90 day period, yet they refuse and so far the court has not compelled them to release it. As such, we can only guesstimate based on other sources. If you read through the entire thread there are posts deriving some more or less reliable ranges of mortality and SAE.
Ah, I see. I thought there might have been a discussion about that already, should have read the whole thread carefully.
Yeah, I am sure they are hiding quite a data there.
The real question in all this is whether they are hiding unwelcome truth "just" in order to earn as much money as they can (as before); or real plan has nothing to do with just vaccine profits.
You think its much deeper than Pfizer sales figures?
 

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You think its much deeper than Pfizer sales figures?

To me, there is little doubt it goes much deeper. First, the refusal to release any safety data. Then the lawsuits to compel Pfizer/FDA to release the data. Then FDA/Pfizer first ask for 50 years to release the data, then raise that number to 75 years. Even Top Secret classified data is usually declassified (by law signed by Clinton) after 25 years. Imagine what must be in there for FDA/Pfizer to behave that way. Then, when the court finally compels FDA/Pfizer to release some data immediately, they redact specifically the info that would prevent people from calculating rate of death and other SAE for the vaccines. The rest of the document is largely intact. It is obvious they are hiding something. Money is certainly a motive, but it could go beyond that. If Pfizer/FDA data confirms what VAERS numbers suggest (20 times higher mortality/SAE then all other vaccines so far, combined) then this would be genocide territory for Pfizer, with conspiracy on part of the FDA to conceal it. There is no immunity from criminal charges, so if something like this were to get out, Pfizer and FDA would be toast. We are talking life in prison for many people, potentially breaking up both Pfizer and FDA, and maybe even Presidential resignation/impeachment.
As far as other more far-fetched claims such as vaccines microchipping us or being used for mind-control - it is possible but I don't think it would be in the documents submitted to the FDA. If Pfizer had such technology it will simply not disclose it to a civilian agency and instead would use/test it under some "dark" program from DARPA, military, etc and then quietly release to the general public.
 

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To be frank, im looking for a solid list of resources to convince my family about the adverse affects of the vaccine and the manipulation of data.

@haidut - Yes i have read the thread and posts. Seems like i wasnt properly evaluating the statements in the fact check article. The response above is solid

I hope the people who put in the FOIA push the courts about the redaction
When I talk to people I go back to the fact that the PCR test isn't valid, and focus just on one point - like that the cycle threshold can be manipulated to produce false-positives. I throw in an example like someone dies of a heart attack, and they are tested for covid after they die, it comes back positive and then can be listed as a covid death when they're not.
I've given up saying anything about v, folks have such a knee jerk reaction they can't hear what you're saying.
Here's a link to the review of the test if you haven't seen it - search for 'summary' to get to the main points. My Firefox browser went crazy when I just tried to open this - lots of warnings, that my computer will die if I open it. hehehe....
 

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I have found that when I say to family and long time friends are they interested in reading/listening to a scientist who has a different viewpoint on anything related, they say no. My pops is a retired Doctor, and he does not want to get any new info other than the usual sources (he is in the US of A). He truly believes that no one who has an up to date Vx has ever contracted covid or gets covid and dies. (I am pretty sure he had a booster as he is 86 years old.) So basically I cannot help him. He also is on 6 or 7 meds, a pacemaker, and believes in science. My mother on the other hand is not on any medication, virtually never has been, and is the same age at 86 years old, and she went out and got the vax and now booster. (They were divorced 53 years ago so no 'relationship' there). She just believes the fear porn pushed by the msm, and she only just started turning on the TV. ( I only semi- joke that "that" is a possible vector.)
I also pull out the 'history' card as I worked with HIV+ and AIDS folks 30 years ago. I say that the inventor of the PCR test Kerry Mullis stated clearly many times that this test does not prove an infection from any virus including aids. It simply amplifies a particular (tiny) sequence of dna/rna millions/billions of times. (PCR test with 35 cycles is in the billions amplified, and the test done to 41 cycles is over a trillion times amplified.) The president of Tanzania took samples from a goat, a pawpaw (papaya), and motor oil, and the goat and pawpaw tested positive from the lab. So yeah, test is not diagnostic. Sorry for your loss, so to speak, but we are all in the same or similar situation.
 
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Release everything they have, update everything real time, without delay. No black bars.
 

David PS

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Correction, 8 months not years.
That should have been thank you. I am watching my 2 year old grandson for a few days and I think it shows. He is down for a nap at the moment.
 

Mito

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Devil in the detail
As the Pfizer documents are released, the FDA will have redacted information that it decides is not for public consumption.

Prof Jefferson says the FDA might redact blocks of important information, to the point where it becomes meaningless, so the devil will be in the detail.

“If the FDA redacts important information like batch numbers, then it will be difficult to identify which participants were potentially harmed or benefited most, by a particular batch of vaccines,” said Prof Jefferson.

“Or they might redact participant's ID numbers making it hard to track how many adverse events that person experienced because each adverse event would be recorded separately."

When asked if there was legal solution to inappropriate redactions made by the FDA, Mr Siri said, “If the FDA make any improper redactions, we intend to challenge those in court.”
https://maryannedemasi.com/publicat...zer-data-but-the-devil-could-be-in-the-detail
 
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Devil in the detail
As the Pfizer documents are released, the FDA will have redacted information that it decides is not for public consumption.

Prof Jefferson says the FDA might redact blocks of important information, to the point where it becomes meaningless, so the devil will be in the detail.
Let's admit it. The FDA won't maybe redact incriminating information, the FDA will. Absolutely. Also, how is it that the FDA can decide that information is "not for public consumption"? It's not data from a government agency, but from a company. Not to mention it concerns all taxpayers, but that has no legal basis, only a moral one.
 
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True re: Africa. Also, I would like to see them administer vaccines in places like Somalia, Congo, Mali, Chad, etc. Red Cross stopped going there long time ago except to deliver antimalarial and antiparasitic meds. Any mentioning of vaccines gets Western doctors "disappeared". The Africans know way too well the Kenyan vaccine (hCG) fiasco. Same thing in the *stans. They remember the fake doctors administering fake vaccines before the Bin Laden "raid" and will stone a doctor on sight if he/she tries to push a vaxx.

They also had the polio epidemic caused by the oral polio "vaccine" so vaccinating even double digits of the populace in such regions is a pipe dream basically.
If only the whole world was like this.
 

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