What do people think of the Pope?

[yerrag]

Pederasts are in every walk of life. You just hear the media constantly single out the Catholic Church. Don't be so gullible.

Infiltrated long ago by the porn purveyors.

 

[Blossom]

The Greek Orthodox Church near one of the oldest cemeteries in Los Angeles, (Rosedale) and also near Loyola High School used to have Greek Festivals with lots of folk dancing and great food. The Church is very beautiful inside. I've never visited an Armenian Church. Is the Armenian Church related to one that is in Palestine?

They are Oriental Orthodox rather than Eastern Orthodox. This article touches on the slight differences.

Armenian Apostolic Church - Questions & Answers

Where does the Armenian Church fit into Orthodoxy?

www.oca.org

 

[Blossom]

My understanding of the Orthodox position of the filioque is based on this scripture:

John 15:26-27 NKJV​

But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning.

Of course it’s fraught with much controversy of which I’m not remotely qualified in any way to debate so this is simply for those interested in reading about it from an Orthodox perspective.

The 8th Ecumenical Council:Constantinople IV (879/880)and the Condemnation of the Filioque Addition and Doctrine

 

[Whichway?]

Pederasts are in every walk of life. You just hear the media constantly single out the Catholic Church. Don't be so gullible.

No one is being gullible here. Of course pederests are in every walk of life. However they are not always in positions where they are in a role which “claims” to care about the eternal soul of a human being, and where members of the community had trustingly placed their children in their care for periods of time.

You are trying to defend an Indefensible crime by pointing out that others do it, and Catholic priests aren’t the only people to abuse children.

All child abusers deserve to DIE. Stop defending them.

 

[Pistachio]

No one is being gullible here. Of course pederests are in every walk of life. However they are not always in positions where they are in a role which “claims” to care about the eternal soul of a human being, and where members of the community had trustingly placed their children in their care for periods of time.

You are trying to defend an Indefensible crime by pointing out that others do it, and Catholic priests aren’t the only people to abuse children.

All child abusers deserve to DIE. Stop defending them.

Sexual abuse lobby is agenda ridden, Fitzpatrick Informer

By Bill Donohue www. catholicleague

fitzinfo.net

 

[Pistachio]

My understanding of the Orthodox position of the filioque is based on this scripture:

John 15:26-27 NKJV​

But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning.

Of course it’s fraught with much controversy of which I’m not remotely qualified in any way to debate so this is simply for those interested in reading about it from an Orthodox perspective.

The 8th Ecumenical Council:Constantinople IV (879/880)and the Condemnation of the Filioque Addition and Doctrine

So what spirit is Jesus talking about when He says "my spirit"?

 

[Pistachio]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rrzo55G364

 

[yerrag]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rrzo55G364

A 2hr long sermon.

It doesn't need to be this long though. A lot of word saladry involved. Not unlike Clinton defining the word "it" or the SCOTUS nominee defining what a woman is. But only to a higher level of semantics and doublespeak that only glib shysters that set our laws can.

It does not talk about the Great Ransack of the "Most Holy" warriors of the Pope, the so-called Crusaders where Constantinople was pillaged by the Catholic Church and whose spoils were used to build the Vatican, and whose works were plagiarized and translated from Greek into Latin.

Western Christians would rather erase that part of history to which they can find no justification for.

 

[Blossom]

So what spirit is Jesus talking about when He says "my spirit"?

Forgive me but I am not a theologian and as previously mentioned I am in no way qualified to debate this issue. I’m just a simple woman trying my best each day and only making it through God’s Grace.

 

[yerrag]

I must have dreamed about a post I made last night that would have taken the place of this post.

In it I explained that all we need to know is that God is Love. And whether God is unitarian, or binutarian, or trinitarian- does not matter as much as we follow God in His ways. Arguing over His nature simply leads to wars and scores being killed and the result is antithetical to what God desires from us. Does God really care if we stamp out a heresy over Jesus being greater or less than the Holy Spirit?

Instead of all that trouble figuring out His nature, shouldn't we just look into ourselves and start to know about our inner selves and perhaps we will find God from within and then we begin to integrate into being as desired of us by God?

This contrasts with our current spiritually pathological tendency to find God from the outside especially in the form of a Messiah, where we have to await the end times (most likely outside of our own lifetime) to save us from the ever present evil spell hanging over us?

In this tome by the late Carroll Quigley, I hope you can find some understanding on how as our civilization advances, the higher the form of gaslighting we are subjected to, which I consider to be a regression than an advancement.

In this regression I find religion to be central in playing a damning role :

Epistemology, Semantics, and Doublethink

In this view I have, the Pope is but a bit player if we all realize he is merely one of many high priests of control. He isn't now a bit player because of the inertia of continual gaslighting we have become accustomed to.

Catholic dogma is just as twisted as Rapture Evangelical dogma. Mary as Mother of God and her end times message of Fatima is just as Mickey mousey as the promise of Rapture taken hook line and sinker by Evangelical Christians.

 

[yerrag]

I guess I have to add that early society must have decided that having many gods causes society to feud. So maybe in the interest of peace slowly we evolved towards a monotheistic god.

But then we realize one God one People isn't such a great idea either. We will try to find something else to divide us. So we begin to think of God in different monotheistic forms. Glad that God in 3 persons stuck for most.

Peace, love, and unity still very elusive. Just as you know being healthy is elusive.

 

[Badger]

No magisterium, no authority, no unity, no sound theology. Not tenable.​

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Eastern "Orthodoxy" Debunked On St. Peter's Authority By St. John Of Damascus​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr8xM6PWlmg

I grew up Catholic and I have a lot of personal familiarity with EO and many Protestant denominations. There is much that is beautiful and deeply spiritual in EO liturgy, and the mystical literature produced in EO is among the best in all of Christendom. But the in-fighting, aggression, backbiting and fierce - often hate-filled conflicts - between different branches of EO - and even churches (literally down the road from each other) - under the EO mantle can often be horrendous to watch or be in the vicinity of. No other large Christian organization matches the ferocity of near-kinetic conflict as you would see in EO churches or branches clashing with each other.

I'm sure lack of authority and unity explains it in part. But I suspect the root cause has a lot to do with ethnic differences between EO adherents. Greek EO folks and say, Russain EO folks, for instance, have pretty different ethnic backgrounds and mentalities. They live in very different climates, eat different food, drink different booze, etc. With no over-arching authority to keep some sort of control over them, they go crazy with each other. But conflict between same ethnics of EOs - that's harder to explain.

 

[Pistachio]

A 2hr long sermon.

It doesn't need to be this long though. A lot of word saladry involved. Not unlike Clinton defining the word "it" or the SCOTUS nominee defining what a woman is. But only to a higher level of semantics and doublespeak that only glib shysters that set our laws can.

It does not talk about the Great Ransack of the "Most Holy" warriors of the Pope, the so-called Crusaders where Constantinople was pillaged by the Catholic Church and whose spoils were used to build the Vatican, and whose works were plagiarized and translated from Greek into Latin.

Western Christians would rather erase that part of history to which they can find no justification for.

Great display of Soviet "whataboutism".

Yeah, but what about....? Fill in the blanks. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

 

[yerrag]

Great display of Soviet "whataboutism".

Yeah, but what about....? Fill in the blanks. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Who's the one deflecting but you?

Just say 'I don't know.'

 

[Birdie]

My husband just sent this to me about the Pope and the poor situation.

Filicide Of The Catholic Faith

You might not care about the Latin mass, but what Pope Francis is doing to it has wider implications

www.theamericanconservative.com

 

[LA]

My husband just sent this to me about the Pope and the poor situation.

Filicide Of The Catholic Faith

You might not care about the Latin mass, but what Pope Francis is doing to it has wider implications

www.theamericanconservative.com

Sad.
The Latin Mass is great entertainment and more spiritual since the Priest and the congregation all face the Cross in UNITY.
ALSO when a mass is said in Latin there are Books that have the Ordinary of the Mass on one side in Latin and the translation in English, or French, or German, or Dutch, or Nigerian or Chinese or Korean or Hindi or Tagalog or whatever language is used in daily life, on the other side.
THEREFORE if a congregation loses a priest another one is able to show up from any place in the world and recite the Latin Mass and the people will still 'understand' just as they did with the other priest -

 

[VitoScaletta]

Constantinople was sacked by the Turks (Muslims) on the very day of Pentecost (descending of the Holy Spirit). Now, what was the main cause of the split between Eastern and Western churches? The Eastern Orthodox's rejection of the Filioque (that the Spirit also proceeds from the Son, Christ).

Think about that carefully.

Interesting

 

[LA]

All child abusers deserve to DIE. Stop defending them.

I agree with your position. There was a time, not so long ago, when anyone who was a pedo was sent to prison where the inmates got rid of him/her.

 

[LA]

They are Oriental Orthodox rather than Eastern Orthodox. This article touches on the slight differences.

Armenian Apostolic Church - Questions & Answers

Where does the Armenian Church fit into Orthodoxy?

www.oca.org

The "Vatican of the Armenian Church" is the Cathedral of Holy Etchmiadzin in Vagharshapat located in Turkey

Cathedral and Churches of Echmiatsin and the Archaeological Site of Zvartnots

The cathedral and churches of Echmiatsin and the archaeological remains at Zvartnots graphically illustrate the evolution and development of the Armenian central-domed cross-hall type of church, which exerted a ...

whc.unesco.org

 

[yerrag]

Sad.
The Latin Mass is great entertainment and more spiritual since the Priest and the congregation all face the Cross in UNITY.
ALSO when a mass is said in Latin there are Books that have the Ordinary of the Mass on one side in Latin and the translation in English, or French, or German, or Dutch, or Nigerian or Chinese or Korean or Hindi or Tagalog or whatever language is used in daily life, on the other side.
THEREFORE if a congregation loses a priest another one is able to show up from any place in the world and recite the Latin Mass and the people will still 'understand' just as they did with the other priest -

I wonder if after Catholics lose their Latin connection, if the religion will cease to be called Roman Catholic.

Since Latin is a language that isn't evolving anymore, and its use in modern times is mainly in preserving the true meaning of ideas that cannot be altered by the deceptive use of words in modern English especially thru semantics and doublespeak and newspeak, it could be by banning the Latin Mass the intent of the devil pope is to further drown us in babel of which we are now fully soaked in already.

By the way, I suspect also that there is a similar motive in why the traditional Chinese script was replaced by the Talmudist communist government of China. The simplified script now used by China removes a lot of meaning as expressed in the strokes that form an expressive art that evolved over time. I believe the words in traditional script evoke the full meaning of ideas that simplified script cannot convey.

This is how the Talmudists aim to erase culture and its richness and variety into a reductionist mass of gray. Not unlike riding a bike thru a flat piece of wasteland devoid of hills and valleys.

Add: The nation-destructing (as opposed to the claimed nation building motives) of the Usrael invasion of Arab countries post the Talmudist-conspired 911 have also the same motive, albeit in a more direct and frontal and violent way. Individual Arab cultures were also put under great stress where their society is transformed towards being one where survival is of paramount concern rather than development and improvement in their society. Where the hyena rules and not the proud lion.