Interesting that smoking has been prevalent human activity for thousands of years and now it's so demonised? Good resources for balanced discussion?

[bookshelf]

Check out "the guilt free smoke room" thread in the forum.. Plenty of fascinating information and studies etc thrown in.

The fact that new Zealand has a goal to make the country entirely smoke free starting with this 14yr old generation by increasing the smoking age each year ensuring some never legally get a wiff is enough of a red flag to make me wonder haha.

I couldn't find the "guilt free smoke room" thread in the forums - did you mean on the raypeatforum or a different one?

I am thoroughly enjoying this discussion and appreciate all of the information. I have come to learn that anything that the government, the WHO, and anyone associated with big Pharma has to say is misinformation or an outright lie. So, if [they] say smoking is bad for you, they're hiding something...

 

[SaltiestSardine]

Smoking is a guaranteed way to oxidative stress eventually. It might not happen as soon as you think(it took about a decade to catch up with me)but it does eventually catch up to you

Smoking ruined my gums AFTER i quit. That's generally what people don't realise. Most of the bad things about smoking tobacco or cigarettes happens after you quit, unless you develop lung cancer much later in life or whatever

I tried Snus for a bit but it seems to also cause ROS from my own experience. So much for the theory about it being anything other than the tobacco/nicotine that causes health issues

 

[bookshelf]

Smoking is a guaranteed way to oxidative stress eventually. It might not happen as soon as you think(it took about a decade to catch up with me)but it does eventually catch up to you

Smoking ruined my gums AFTER i quit. That's generally what people don't realise. Most of the bad things about smoking tobacco or cigarettes happens after you quit, unless you develop lung cancer much later in life or whatever

I tried Snus for a bit but it seems to also cause ROS from my own experience. So much for the theory about it being anything other than the tobacco/nicotine that causes health issues

How much did you smoke, though? I have to wonder if periodic smoking (or "snusssing") with pure tobacco, used therapeutically (as it was perhaps intended), would be the best of both worlds? The few times I have puffed away I have had mixed reactions with the best results after a light smoking of a 100 pure tobacco cigarette.

What I haven't been able to reconcile is that some people I know have been able to smoke regular (chemical laden) cigarettes for a lifetime and outlive many of their peers - I'm talking into their 80's and 90's and they die of something other than the expected, supposedly related diseases. There has to be more to it, I just don't know what "it" is. Case in point, one fellow, you could smell the smoke off of him (without a cig in his mouth) two cubicles down when he'd come to visit our office. He lived into his 90's, sharp as a tack. Go figure.

 

[LukasWood]

What Brand do you speak of? I tried searching and google is sucking. That General Snus brand seems a lot less poisonous than the typical brands but it has Proplene Glycol, the plastic pouch, and some natural and artificial flavors. I seek a pure snus. i also seek to quit! but in the meantime help a brotha out.

General G3 TNT is probylene free dry snus in nice sized pouches.

 

[Hermes]

In what ways does the effects of snus differ from tobacco?

 

[Hermes]

I am thoroughly enjoying this discussion and appreciate all of the information. I have come to learn that anything that the government, the WHO, and anyone associated with big Pharma has to say is misinformation or an outright lie. So, if [they] say smoking is bad for you, they're hiding something...

Absolutely! The same goes for psychedelics. They're still considered schedule I drugs. All the destructive drugs like alcohol, amphetamine, cocaine are so much more conducive to the plan to divide and conquer. And by all means, we're already living in a society so atomized, so scattered. Everyone is in a me-alone-bubble.

 

[:M :B.]

General G3 TNT is probylene free dry snus in nice sized pouches.

This stuff seems way less poisonous than the white general snus I was using which seemed way less poisonous than any american brand. It quickly shipped in bulk from sweden and saved me about 40% on my bad habbit. Thanks for the pro tip.

 

[TheHound]

I view it all the same Globalist plot

I think it's worth noting that many of today's cigarettes have been purposefully filled with poison that cause these issues

Everything that raises DHT (such as this) is demonized and I saw someone else a while back say that things that lower serotonin tends to be considered rude such as which I definitely think is true:

- Smoking
- Wearing hats and hoodies
- Chewing Gum
etc

Meanwhile, things that obliterate DHT is front and center

- finasteride/hair loss industry in general

(it amazes me that people will believe the NWO has an agenda to weaken/feminize men then actually take the 5AR/DHT theory seriously)

- Our food industry is filled with androgenic obliterators - soy, BHT, etc.

- PUFA

the list goes on...

not sure if you answered this elsewhere but curious on where you saw hats/hoodies increase dht?