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pboy said:I think the real problem is people taking things literally and living by that, cause im pretty sure all religions were nature based, life essence based, and the images were just personifications...men being masculine energy, kind of thing, or they were used as metaphors
I think once major empires started getting hold of Europe/asia they basically kidn of took religion out of its context and used it in a propaganda type way, and its really people living by that that's been the problem, and now its just a big time mess because its not necessarily a propaganda tool (except by people trying to make money off it) but its also so out of context no church goers...few, really get anything out of it or even ..they don't have any clue the context and how its supposed to be understood, the difference in life from when they were written until now
theres obviously not literally a bearded man in the sky, but perhaps there is an enforcing or orchestrating 'masculine' type energy that governs over life in some fashion in a karmic way...theres no way to quantify it, things could point at that in many peoples lives and in the experiences they have, but you cant convince or show someone else, and you cant prove it scientifically so its really just a thing you either believe or don't, but that doesn't really change the fact that living as a person with good ethics is a good thing
pboy said:so is god cool or an **** hole? or are we to personally blame via free will for our good and bad experiences? if the answer to that is sometimes, then is the times when bad things happen to good people random? or does god have a specific method to the madness
this is why I say, eff it, just lets focus on each other here, be good people, create a world that is as nurturing and liberating as possible for ourselves, and if there is a god that is good...great, if there isn't, we still doing the best we can for each other. to 'serve' god is a major potential problem. How about serve people in the totality of the sense, not like be their butler or slave, but in all you do think of and account for the collateral and ramifications down the line, to other people, and act in good ethics and spirit about that
its funny how the Japanese who have never had an abrihamic religion, do a much better job than this than the so called 'god' religions, and they still appreciate art and the beauty of nature, apparently, much more also
pboy said:see that's where I think people go wrong, its just a book, written by 4 men, no one even knows if those words were of Jesus anyways (who also was a man). No man is without capability, then or now, to know and intuit and ponder on matters of the heart and spirit, so following or putting trust in words from a book written by others, unless they are literally just the same thing you were already thinking, is pretty much...dangerous. You can come to high knowledge and be a better person than most religious people just by meditating and testing things in life, being observant, having a conscious effort to live in the best way and figure that out, and living out of your own volition is what makes sense. It obviously cant be only pure selfish, it has to realize how your actions and words effect everything at large, then its great....if everyone did that and lived out of that, we'd be good. Everything is simple and obvious actually, over complicating it, is actually a defense mechanism for self fear based aggressive or unfair towards others living patterns. Its so simple children are born naturally with this in them. Why speak in scary riddles and be all vague and s***? why not just say things plainly as they are. Its like the science professor or medical establishment using long chemical scientific names and purposefully acting confusing and a bit elitist just to boost their own self status image...any real teacher, or person with a heart and real knowledge and experience, can speak to any people and make it valuable and understandable, at least coherent to make an impact
Xisca said:Feminists just suffer from the suffering of other women. This is an excess that was created by another eccess. Violence to women AND children are the most common, because they are the weekest.
Feminism will disappear when the anger will disapear.
The problem is anger because it wastes energy, and creates more powerlessness, helplessness.
It is better to fight for peace without anger, because in that case there is more strengh and power, and no violence for revenge.
Forsythia said:The worst thing humans have ever done, in the whole history of humanity, is to first invent god, then to make god a male. We still have not recovered from this.
― Rebecca WestI myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is: I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat.
Westside PUFAs said:It says a lot about a person who can honestly be okay with referencing a book that says such things. Why ignore the bad parts but endorse the good ones?