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tara said::)
Human's long gestation, large hard skull, and an exit route via a part of the anatomy that has to be strong enough in bipedals to hold up all the internal organs the rest of the time.
Becoming a mother gives pretty strong empirical evidence against 'ID' (unless misogyny is a key feature of the designer). :)
I do actually think our 'design'/structure & function is pretty amazing really. You just wouldn't do some of it this way if you were planning ahead.
LucyL said:tara said::)
Human's long gestation, large hard skull, and an exit route via a part of the anatomy that has to be strong enough in bipedals to hold up all the internal organs the rest of the time.
Becoming a mother gives pretty strong empirical evidence against 'ID' (unless misogyny is a key feature of the designer). :)
I do actually think our 'design'/structure & function is pretty amazing really. You just wouldn't do some of it this way if you were planning ahead.
Interesting. I watched a lot of kitten and puppy births before my kids were born, and I was pretty sure the whole pain thing was overrated and birth would really be a piece of cake. Hah. Even if I hadn't been a believer before, the whole unnecessary pain thing pretty much cemented the Garden of Eden account for me.
Charlie said:There was no apple eaten that caused all this.
gummybear said:Charlie said:There was no apple eaten that caused all this.
How do you know?
pboy said:those stories are extremely arrogant, and feminine, nature degrading in of themselves...like, clearly mental slavery constructed material...or just by insane people. No right minded person still living like humans should would ever come up with such stories and beliefs...its pretty crazy stuff. Patriarchial pyramid structure, belittling of woman, fearing nature...all this stuff, god as a masculine figure...I mean, what a joke. I cant even give them credit for being logical or creative, its clearly just some arrogant **** holes who wanted to justify themselves and control the naturalness of others
pboy said:those stories are extremely arrogant, and feminine, nature degrading in of themselves...like, clearly mental slavery constructed material...or just by insane people. No right minded person still living like humans should would ever come up with such stories and beliefs...its pretty crazy stuff. Patriarchial pyramid structure, belittling of woman, fearing nature...all this stuff, god as a masculine figure...I mean, what a joke. I cant even give them credit for being logical or creative, its clearly just some arrogant **** holes who wanted to justify themselves and control the naturalness of others
Forsythia said:The worst thing humans have ever done, in the whole history of humanity, is to first invent god, then to make god a male. We still have not recovered from this.
gummybear said:Forsythia said:The worst thing humans have ever done, in the whole history of humanity, is to first invent god, then to make god a male. We still have not recovered from this.
Oh look out we got a feminist here!
Forsythia said:The worst thing humans have ever done, in the whole history of humanity, is to first invent god, then to make god a male. We still have not recovered from this.
pboy said:those stories are extremely arrogant, and feminine, nature degrading in of themselves...like, clearly mental slavery constructed material...or just by insane people. No right minded person still living like humans should would ever come up with such stories and beliefs...its pretty crazy stuff. Patriarchial pyramid structure, belittling of woman, fearing nature...all this stuff, god as a masculine figure...I mean, what a joke. I cant even give them credit for being logical or creative, its clearly just some arrogant **** holes who wanted to justify themselves and control the naturalness of others