Amazoniac
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It's simple: Kartoffel doesn't want to be eaten.
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It was 25% fructose, 25% complex carbohydrates (starch).
It's simple: Kartoffel doesn't want to be eaten.
It was accompanied by glucose, even if not bound to the glucose. Your contention is that fructose that begins as a disaccharide impacts the liver differently than unbound fructose? They all have to be monosaccharides before absorption.What's your point?
It was accompanied by glucose, even if not bound to the glucose. Your contention is that fructose that begins as a disaccharide impacts the liver differently than unbound fructose? They all have to be monosaccharides before absorption.
Exciting! Thank you for your responses, I have much reading to do! And not being hemispherialist haha, I'm from a very northern area and was wondering if my ability to process fructose might be compromised by my ancestors not getting much..[1] Taxing the liver with PUFA and excess fructose or alcohol at the same time is risky, but plenty of glucose is safer in that regard irrespective of the type of fat consumed.
Dietary sucrose is essential to the development of liver injury in the methionine-choline-deficient model of steatohepatitis
There are so many studies on this that you can select the animal, its gender, age, size, marital status, criminal record, etc. That's why I mentioned that the person has to be really generous to dismiss them.
[2] No doubt fatty liver is a protective measure but can't be painted in good light because it sounds like it's something desirable.
Ectopic fat, insulin resistance and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease | Proceedings of the Nutrition Society | Cambridge Core
[3] Ich don't think so as long as supported by adequate nutrition. If it's fattening up organs, (of course) it's a sign to back off or change the ways.
Now to be equitable, because I totally am:
Effect of Eucaloric High- and Low-Sucrose Diets With Identical Macronutrient Profile on Insulin Resistance and Vascular Risk
There are people here consuming up to 30% of their calories from fructose without adapting their diet to such high intakes.
[4] What is that supposed to mean? That southern people are indecent? If so, it's a quite hemispherialist. I'll just ignore it and pretend that you weren't offensive. But seriously, regarding ancestry and evolution, it's probably a vit D issue, Rayzord has talked about it.
"I Have Liver Issues And I Am Not Making Progress"
Isn't fructose protective of the liver? Those studies where sugar is used to induce NAFLD in animals are always overfeeding them, too. When Lustig debated Alan Aragon, Aragon's central (and unrefuted) point was that all of Lustig's evidence was taken from hypercaloric studies. I haven't seen any evidence that fructose or sucrose can cause fatty liver iso- or hypo-calorically.Liver is the main processor and a great deal of fructose becomes glucose. If insulin resistance is associated with a fatty/impaired liver, you can't ignore that high-sucrose diets are used in place of starch to make animals reach that state.
It depends if it's not overwhelming. The amount varies from a lot for some to a little for others. To err on the side of caution you can assume that a tendency towards glucose as in starchy meals flavored with sweets is safer, but fruit nibbling throughout the day can possibly work. There's no need to overthink it though, people know what's enough or too much for them, the problem is when gurus decide to ignore the clues.Isn't fructose protective of the liver? Those studies where sugar is used to induce NAFLD in animals are always overfeeding them, too. When Lustig debated Alan Aragon, Aragon's central (and unrefuted) point was that all of Lustig's evidence was taken from hypercaloric studies. I haven't seen any evidence that fructose or sucrose can cause fatty liver iso- or hypo-calorically.
Milk contains so little fructose that it's probably a result of some sort of spill over in an uncontrolled way from metabolic problems.How much fructose from lactose escapes digestion?
Adaptation does occur but it's often complicated when the person is already compromised.Should but does it happen realistically ?
Is Fructose Malabsorption a Cause of Irritable Bowel Syndrome?
It really comes down to the individual and self-experimentation. SIBO has been suggested to negatively affect fructose absorption although one study finds it only does significantly for the sugar alcohols and for Lactose. As a vicious circle, gut permeability would favor malabsorption and fructose is suggested to increase gut permeability.
Fructokinase, Fructans, Intestinal Permeability, and Metabolic Syndrome: An Equine Connection?
Fructose: A Dietary Sugar in Crosstalk with Microbiota Contributing to the Development and Progression of Non-Alcoholic Liver Disease
The safest approach seems to be to have small amounts at different instances. Even with IF I can do this, for instance starting the feeding window with a tsp of honey or maple syrup or an orange, eating my largest meal an hour later, maybe another orange 2 hours later, and similarly later some other instances if I feel the desire.
It seems based on these small "paleo" trials that a lower fat intake is crucial coupled with high protein intake and low caloric intake, and the carbs should be fruits and vegetables and perhaps some tubers and potatoes, but not grains.
There was another study similar as the one I mentioned where they ingested more fat and it gave a poorer (although still good) result, caloric intake was then also somewhat higher, around 1600 kcal I believe, 40E% fats or something.
It was also shown 30 years ago how Australian aboriginals reversed diabetes in just 7 weeks on a 1200 kcal diet, with 52E% protein and 13E% fats. (I mentioned this in another post.)
It's true that the more restrictive your diet is, the chances of being malnourished increase. However! I'm afraid this kind of post launches a cursing program in your life that will make you to fall in love with a pretty fruitarian and you'll have no option but to accept being part of her Instagram pics, that happen to always tag Fully Raw Kristina and Texas Fruitarian. You'll also be forced visit with her orange plantations and take those original pictures giving the impression that she's leading you by the hand to a paradise. Just don't bu11shit the visitor, if you're going to fake, fake it right, she won't walk with her legs crossed and you can't get too distracted taking the shot that you forget your wrist in an awkward twisted position making it clear that she's not leading you anywhere.@Amazoniac Interesting picture, saved it. Agreeing with what you wrote in general, except for fruitarians I've never really seen one that had an aura of healthiness that makes someone attractive. Most of the ones I've seen give an "heroin junkie" vibe, and the livestyles I've seen in vlogs supported that (staying at home relaxing, being able and eating meals of fruits every 1-2 hours [maybe to prevent the blood sugar rollercoaster I experienced with high sugar and/or high casein diets?] and generally looking low energy). There are of course always going to be exceptions and genetic freaks, other factors to compensate by (like being an highly-trained athlete), people that do fine and many others that develop problems with sugar and it shouldn't be ignored. But I feel sorry for the person who traded intuition for intellectualism (or scientific authoritarianism) and fails to see the effect a repeated action has on his/her health because someone wrote that it was good for him/her. Kinda feel like that's what happened with Jobs, he seemed pretty stubborn in his belief that an high sugar diet would save him from cancer, and well that would be a long post, but I think there are several ways by which it could have fueled it and generally deteriorated his state.