Asimov said:expensive saturated fats.
i think coconut oil is just as cheap
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Asimov said:expensive saturated fats.
narouz said:gretchen said:I ate pecans for a whole last year during the final paleo phase. It was like being a robot programmed for destruction. Note to self: don't eat potatoes, sugar, fruit, grains, Hagen Daazs (esp not the HD) or regular old milk in a plastic jug. Eat pecans because Grok would! .... makes no sense whatsoever.
gretchen-
Ha.
Like you I ate a ton of pecans when under the influence of Low Carb/Paleo/Primal thinking.
And under the influence of eating just what tasted good.
You do understand I am not arguing that pecans are healthy, right? :)
I'm just saying that, to most people, pecans are delicious.
Well...or at least tasty.
(Who/What is "Grok"?
I know about "grok" as a reference from that old science fiction novel,
Stranger in a Strange Land.
But, as I recall, "grok" in that book meant something like love or sex or both....)
gretchen said:I ate pecans for a whole last year during the final paleo phase. It was like being a robot programmed for destruction. Note to self: don't eat potatoes, sugar, fruit, grains, Hagen Daazs (esp not the HD) or regular old milk in a plastic jug. Eat pecans because Grok would! .... makes no sense whatsoever.
Not where I shop. You can probably buy 3 gallons of corn oil for the same price as about 12oz of coconut oil.key said:Asimov said:expensive saturated fats.
i think coconut oil is just as cheap
Asimov said:Not where I shop. You can probably buy 3 gallons of corn oil for the same price as about 12oz of coconut oil.key said:Asimov said:expensive saturated fats.
i think coconut oil is just as cheap
But I agree with J. Occasional nut consumption should be about the least of your worldly concerns. While pecans contain a lot of PUFA, they also have a lot of MUFA and some SFA. When taken in totality of your overall diet, a handful of pecans once a month is going to amount to a negligible amount of PUFA.
jyb said:gretchen said:I ate pecans for a whole last year during the final paleo phase. It was like being a robot programmed for destruction. Note to self: don't eat potatoes, sugar, fruit, grains, Hagen Daazs (esp not the HD) or regular old milk in a plastic jug. Eat pecans because Grok would! .... makes no sense whatsoever.
I would eat a really big amount of pecans (and macadamia nuts) daily because they were a convenient source of protein. It's easy to carry a bag of nuts around with you. Nuts are marketed as healthy food natural, non-processed and high protein and omega-3 content. I ate other bad things too...
narouz said:This "programming" argument...
I'm willing to be persuaded.
But what I think I see a lot of, on this question, is reasoning toward a fixed conclusion.
The fixed conclusion?
PUFAs taste bad.
And why do some desire to find that PUFAs taste bad?
Because it is somewhat unpleasant to believe
that something that is bad for you
can taste good.
A variety of reasons are put forth to explain away that unpleasant reality:
1. we are programmed (by media, by advertisers, by seed oil companies, etc).
2. our perception of taste has been perverted by modern life.
3. we have lost touch with our primal instinct for healthy food.
4. we are addicted to destructive foods which seem, to our addicted perceptions, to taste good.
5. we are simply habituated to unhealthy foods and eat guided--not by true, pure, primal taste--
but rather just by the momentum of our long destructive habits of eating.
It seems to me that we may be going through all those explanations
in order to avoid the simple and obvious:
High PUFA foods can be delicious.
I don't think I've ever read Dr. Peat argue
that eating his recommended foods
and avoiding his non-recommended foods
should be a "natural," or "instinctual," or "easy" thing.
And I don't think I've ever read him write
that one will be naturally repulsed by the taste of high-PUFA foods.
Dr. Peat himself seems to sometimes crave the taste of bacon.
He discusses his method of making it less harmful--
re-frying in coconut oil.
I don't think he does that to improve the flavor.
Kasper said:Potatoes fried in coconut oil are super delicious.
And much better tasting than if they are fried in sunflower oil in my opinion.
Vegetables pan-fried in coconut oil are much better tasting than vegetables pan-fried in sunflower oil imo.
My parents cook in coconut oil for years. And if people have dinner with them, they very often get asked which oils he use, because it tastes so good.
I really don't think that it is true that PUFAs are better tasting in general.
kirby said:People in general clearly find many pufa-foods delicious including french fries, potato chips, peanut butter and deep-fried chicken.
j. said:kirby said:People in general clearly find many pufa-foods delicious including french fries, potato chips, peanut butter and deep-fried chicken.
When people are hungry, they eat what's available.
If you let them taste all those foods you're mentioning, a coconut oil version and a pufa oil version of each, they'll choose the coconut oil product.
kirby said:Okey lol I don't think I will argue with you if you really believe drinking water from a plastic bottle is the same as eating actual plastic. I'm hopeful however for more intelligent responses
j. said:kirby said:Okey lol I don't think I will argue with you if you really believe drinking water from a plastic bottle is the same as eating actual plastic. I'm hopeful however for more intelligent responses
Studies show it's estrogenic. Consuming a lot of water from plastic containers is like eating small amounts of plastic.
So let me rephrase the question: Why did we evolve to eat small amounts of plastic?