Sexual Liberation The Downfall Of A Society

[Ableton]

I think this also about sums up why I will NEVER save a former party girl in her 30s

 

[R J]

Is it a mark of brokenness to exercise prudent caution against the primal forces that come at play in sexual indulgence? Is the extent to which one masters their lower urges not a hallmark of one's wisdom and morality? Is it stupidity to expect the mother or father of your children to demonstrate the kind of thoughtful consciousness that is projected from the crown, not from the genitalia?

Is man is a fallen angel, or a liberated beast? To base morality on how free one is to express the most animalistic side of their being is, in the end, the real ground upon which the elements of further sickness are laid. Evidently, most sickness experienced by modern man is built upon a foundation of sexual excess. Lust, greed, irrationality, antisociality, nihilism and thoughtlessness are all sexual diseases at the most fundemental level.

You calling someone who demonstrates willingness to rise above his animal form stupid and broken is a true testament to your own invalidity. Such sentiments are the result of identifying with sickness. When sickness defines the actions and thoughts of the observer beyond a certain point, those who thrive are going to appear uncanny and extremist, as if it was them who were sick.

Perhaps you grew up in a different era -- one in which the societal consequences of your decadent philosophies had not yet become obvious. Now that they have, it is evident that the insanity of sexual liberalism has entered its final, terminal stage, with the younger generations increasingly rejecting the hedonistic paradigm bestowed upon them by their elders who, even in their elderhood, prove themselves to be the most sexually infantile generation in existence, capable only of the most ridiculous glorification and romanticization of the sexual function.

This is a high vibration post

 

[R J]

Good to see not everyone is delusional. Also, similar situation as of now although I have been in ltr with 2 quality women and experienced pure teen love. Thats more than most incels have experienced. I would be legitimately crazy if I never had that so seeing you dealing with your situation like this is inspiring. Hope you find what you are looking for

But you have seemingly internalized the incel mindset nonetheless. You come across as pretty weak and clinging to your meme experiences. Without those straws you admit you’d internally collapse. You’re the self definition of cope

 

[Ableton]

This is a high vibration post

It is but 98% of incels would abort their morality the second a „former party girl“ spreads her legs and gives them a chance. In other words, this is a cope for the vast majority of men who cannot get laid
If you are the 2% or whatever, more power to you. Just want to point this out

 

[R J]

Nobody said any of this, but that's a nice straw man you rage against.

Humans are humans. Not fallen angels nor liberated beasts. Your dichotomies are tyrannical and insipid. Keep them to yourselves or get help, I don't care. But stop trying to force your prudish idol worship on others.

These are just words tbh

 

[R J]

It is but 98% of incels would abort their morality the second a „former party girl“ spreads her legs and gives them a chance. In other words, this is a cope for the vast majority of men who cannot get laid
If you are the 2% or whatever, more power to you. Just want to point this out

Incels aren’t same thing as willing celibate. That’s just not correct. I’ve talked to men who are celibates by choice who have turned down sex from very attractive women . And 2% is fine, that’s more than enough

 

[Ableton]

But you have seemingly internalized the incel mindset nonetheless. You come across as pretty weak and clinging to your meme experiences. Without those straws you admit you’d internally collapse. You’re the self definition of cope

This incel mindset was just able to explain the relationship dynamics of 2 strangers based on a couple paragraphs, confirmed by the author. I am quite sure I have more experience than you as well (im 28, been in ltr with quality women and hoes for a total of 8 years, lived hedonistic for some years, had some hookups but not many, did drugs etc). Are those meme experiences? What kind of experiences of yours are valuable input here aside from you not touching your ****? Just lol dude

 

[Ableton]

Put me back on ignore I think thats better for you

 

[Ableton]

Incels aren’t same thing as willing celibate. That’s just not correct. I’ve talked to men who are celibates by choice who have turned down sex from very attractive women . And 2% is fine, that’s more than enough

Most willingly celibates are incels who talk themselves in it. Mgtow = gigacope. Thats my point
Again, not saying a minority isn’t serious and you might well be in that minority
But I have my doubts that many young healthy men on nofap would turn down a 10/10 18 year old self proclaimed slut if she literally spread her **** cheeks in front of you.

see where I’m coming from?

 

[R J]

LOL. You be so erudite, I cannot keep up, dahurk.

Clearly I meant humans are unique. They sure as hell aren't mythical creatures from silly fantasies about a white bearded ruler on a cloud. And they are no mere beasts. Yes, I punted on what they ARE. Because trying to define humans in archaic literary terms is silly. Even philosophers have progressively abandoned essentialisms since Nietzsche smacked the silliness out of their heads.

My ideology? It always amuses me when simple minds demand to know, or are frustrated by not knowing. How do I fight this vile beast if I can't put him in a box, lol. There are many more axioms and ideologies than your philosophy can imagine Horatio (smirk). People don't live in boxes. People who attest to and identify with ideologies and religions have capitulated their existence to others to define and dictate. Getting out of your head and living your life would do you a world of good.

Which leads me to ask, WTF are you doing on an anti-authoritarian site dedicated to thinking for oneself, lol?

Finally, I am threatened. My family is threatened. My friends are threatened. My country is threatened. By religious zealots, white supremacists, and petty opportunists who would like to enslave us to their stunted, self-hating, idiotic ideals.

I don’t think opposite of monogamy is anti authoritarian. I think you’re fighting against a projected feeling not making an actual point because of calling it white supremacy or zealots or etc .

Anyways I would have been deeply grateful to be guided by a benevolent teacher than being left to my own devices to nearly ruin myself with porn and other degeneracies. There is no balance in modern life, having someone come talk to us at school for 30min once or twice in entire public school career was nothing against the tide of porn and drugs

 

[R J]

Most willingly celibates are incels who talk themselves in it. Mgtow = gigacope. Thats my point
Again, not saying a minority isn’t serious and you might well be in that minority
But I have my doubts that many young healthy men on nofap would turn down a 10/10 18 year old self proclaimed slut if she literally spread her **** cheeks in front of you.

see where I’m coming from?

Yes but you’re talking like spiritual teachings from millennia ago or more are equated to online mgtow culture etc. I understand why you think what you do but you’re simply wrong and I’m saying that with no prejudice. It sounds too much like holding onto conditioning right now

 

[R J]

This incel mindset was just able to explain the relationship dynamics of 2 strangers based on a couple paragraphs, confirmed by the author. I am quite sure I have more experience than you as well (im 28, been in ltr with quality women and hoes for a total of 8 years, lived hedonistic for some years, had some hookups but not many, did drugs etc). Are those meme experiences? What kind of experiences of yours are valuable input here aside from you not touching your ****? Just lol dude

You willingly describe yourself a certain way but then reply like this when I use your descriptions. You without a doubt have the incel mindset. Sexual experience to you is a straw you’re clutching. You’re the one who said you’d lose yourself without it. Too much time internalizing looksmaxx forums or whatever. It’s damaging if you don’t keep 100% awareness while using those sources

 

[Ableton]

Yes but you’re talking like spiritual teachings from millennia ago or more are equated to online mgtow culture etc. I understand why you think what you do but you’re simply wrong and I’m saying that with no prejudice. It sounds too much like holding onto conditioning right now

Lol @ spiritual teachings, which i never even talked about
I unironically know a gay dude with HIV who ****88 2 high rank priests of the catholic church
Healthy men, spiritual teachings or not, are either *******, jerking off, or coming in their sleep from wild dreams as an amalgamation of their unfulfilled sexual desires. Being a man comes with that. In fact, it’s even healthier to rarely cum, than to never cum. I would have hopped on finasteride a decade ago if I thought I could be a man without a **** and the thrive to ****. I would be nothing right now if I didn’t have the biological urge. We are all ******* animals

 

[R J]

Most willingly celibates are incels who talk themselves in it. Mgtow = gigacope. Thats my point
Again, not saying a minority isn’t serious and you might well be in that minority
But I have my doubts that many young healthy men on nofap would turn down a 10/10 18 year old self proclaimed slut if she literally spread her **** cheeks in front of you.

see where I’m coming from?

Also look how many times you’re using ages, age brackets, experienced as lived according to what you’re expected to experience as definers for yourself. It’s a type of neuroticism from this lookism incel etc sect . It’s also pushed by media I.e. 27 club promoting burning out young musicians who then die by drugs.

 

[R J]

Lol @ spiritual teachings, which i never even talked about
I unironically know a gay dude with HIV who ****88 2 high rank priests of the catholic church
Healthy men, spiritual teachings or not, are either *******, jerking off, or coming in their sleep from wild dreams as an amalgamation of their unfulfilled sexual desires. Being a man comes with that. In fact, it’s even healthier to rarely cum, than to never cum. I would have hopped on finasteride a decade ago if I thought I could be a man without a **** and the thrive to ****. I would be nothing right now if I didn’t have the biological urge. We are all ******* animals

You are trying to project something on me and I reject it. I know what you’re doing and it’s really weak , but would be dangerous to me if I hadn’t already overcome this . That’s why I blocked u other day but today after reading that’s high vibration poster supporting positive concepts I have more confidence to see this for what it is.

You should look to positive examples of German ancestors for inspiration . You have a lot of rich history to rely on for motivation

 

[Ableton]

Also look how many times you’re using ages, age brackets, experienced as lived according to what you’re expected to experience as definers for yourself. It’s a type of neuroticism from this lookism incel etc sect . It’s also pushed by media I.e. 27 club promoting burning out young musicians who then die by drugs.

Being young isn’t about *******, it’s about metabolic energy. Everything else follows. Clear to everyone here on this forum. Clear to almost zero „looksmaxers“.

 

[Ableton]

You are trying to project something on me and I reject it. I know what you’re doing and it’s really weak , but would be dangerous to me if I hadn’t already overcome this . That’s why I blocked u other day but today after reading that’s high vibration poster supporting positive concepts I have more confidence to see this for what it is.

You should look to positive examples of German ancestors for inspiration . You have a lot of rich history to rely on for motivation

Now you are pulling the boomer arguments. You can do better than this

 

[TheSir]

Clearly I meant humans are unique.... *snip*

Certainly so. Your view would fall in the "liberated/rising beast" side of the dichotomy. Nietzsche is a strong representative of this side, seeing man as an inconvenient hybrid of a beast and a god. Unlike you though, Nietzsche argued that man should not call it quits, but strive to actualize his godhood. Which is what @Jib, @R J and other advocators of celibacy in this thread are doing, whether consciously or not.

Because trying to define humans in archaic literary terms is silly.

Would you say that the nature of man has significantly changed since ancient times? Or were these definitions silly to begin with?

People who attest to and identify with ideologies and religions have capitulated their existence to others to define and dictate

Agree. Anything that is worth pursuing is innately transcendental, and anything that is innately transcendental lies so far beyond ideologies, religions and other man-made constructs as to have little use for such.

Which leads me to ask, WTF are you doing on an anti-authoritarian site dedicated to thinking for oneself, lol?

Ah, exactly that: thinking for myself. Learning, teaching and connecting with others on an equal footing, unburdened by the restrictive etiquettes of the outside world. There are not many places like this left on the internet. I am sure both of us are deeply appreciative of the circumstances offered by this platform.

Finally, I am threatened. My family is threatened. My friends are threatened. My country is threatened. By religious zealots, white supremacists, and petty opportunists who would like to enslave us to their stunted, self-hating, idiotic ideals.

Sad to hear that. However, this has very little to do with our discussion. You accused others of forcing their views down your throat in this thread, even though this thread has followed the typical progression of a forum discussion, with users sharing their views and then arguing about them back and forth. It sounds like you just lack the ability to deal with opposing points of view.

 

[Peater]

re: Anti-authoritarian

Aren't the authorities the ones giving the OK to go out and screw around, live for today, greed is good, do what thou wilt?

 

[managing]

Certainly so. Your view would fall in the "liberated/rising beast" side of the dichotomy. Nietzsche is a strong representative of this side, seeing man as an inconvenient hybrid of a beast and a god. Unlike you though, Nietzsche argued that man should not call it quits, but strive to actualize his godhood. Which is what @Jib, @R J and other advocators of celibacy in this thread are doing, whether consciously or not.

Would you say that the nature of man has significantly changed since ancient times? Or were these definitions silly to begin with?

Agree. Anything that is worth pursuing is innately transcendental, and anything that is innately transcendental lies so far beyond ideologies, religions and other man-made constructs as to have little use for such.

Ah, exactly that: thinking for myself. Learning, teaching and connecting with others on an equal footing, unburdened by the restrictive etiquettes of the outside world. There are not many places like this left on the internet. I am sure both of us are deeply appreciative of the circumstances offered by this platform.

Sad to hear that. However, this has very little to do with our discussion. You accused others of forcing their views down your throat in this thread, even though this thread has followed the typical progression of a forum discussion, with users sharing their views and then arguing about them back and forth. It sounds like you just lack the ability to deal with opposing points of view.

I am all for ideas. Its the actions of pious zealots that threaten life, liberty, and happiness. The article that kicked off this thread advocates for legislating morality. SMH.

Any postulation of the "nature of man" fails before it starts.

You are the one that started wielding ideologies in the first place, so its strange for you to distance yourself now.

I am glad you appreciate the inherent virtue of this forum. Yet, you've made moralistic and judgmental statements that aspire to authority . . .