Cloudhands
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I suppose if you don't interpret much meaning then it must seem so. For me it makes a lot of sense, I'd happily let you know what meaning I personally extracted from his response if anyone would appreciateA bunch of intellectual mumbo jumbo
What was it related to in the past?I think anything other than serial monogamy is degrading.
RP is saying artificial scarcity is imposed in our culture.
Polyamory implies scarcity of women, polygyny implies scarcity of men, regular marriage implies scarcity of both (the way it's done today in the sense of "settling down", in the past in rich societies marriage was something greater and not related to scarcity or property mentality).
Basically do whichever you want as long as the intentions aren't based in fear and lack. If monogamy is our cultures main model of relationship, and it's a result of the institutions imposing artificial scarcity, and animals who are less scarce seem to move toward polyamory, then it's safe to assume monogamy is a result of scarcity, a way to protect and conserve an organisms resources
I don't see what an attractive man gets from polyamory, given he has abundance of sexual contacts. It's definitely beneficial for women.well, if you are unattractive you better have a negative view on polyamory, and if you are attractive, you might benefit from a positive view on it (in todays society)
Basically do whichever you want as long as the intentions aren't based in fear and lack. If monogamy is our cultures main model of relationship, and it's a result of the institutions imposing artificial scarcity, and animals who are less scarce seem to move toward polyamory, then it's safe to assume monogamy is a result of scarcity, a way to protect and conserve an organisms resources
brutalI don't see what an attractive man gets from polyamory, given he has abundance of sexual contacts. It's definitely beneficial for women.
Edit. Ok, you might have meant something different. If that's what I think then yes, I agree. The more unattractive you are the harder you have to push anti "poly" views and the opposite if you're attractive, so that you get a lot of sexual contacts basically for free, without any stigma.
I think it's pretty well known that marriage has cultural roots in preserving family fortunes, dowries, and preserving royalty. Like I said, as long as the intentions are not of lack or scarcity, it doesn't matter whichever one you choose, and I believe ray feels the same way, he never explicitly said that one or the other is more or less optimal, he just said they are strongly influenced by institutionsNot everything about human behavior can be understood from a purely biological perspective about preserving resources.
This kind of neo-darwinian thinking is poisoning everyone's minds IMO
I think it's pretty well known that marriage has cultural roots in preserving family fortunes, dowries, and preserving royalty. Like I said, as long as the intentions are not of lack or scarcity, it doesn't matter whichever one you choose, and I believe ray feels the same way, he never explicitly said that one or the other is more or less optimal, he just said they are strongly influenced by institutions
Like i said do either as long as it's not because of fear. Polyamory for me is more about exploring love and sensuality and not being possessive of females in the sense that I am okay with them having other partners. There's also a clinical positive correlation between testosterone and polyamory, if that's interesting to anyone. The point being made is that people are afraid to have multiple partners and creating exclusive relationships shut out to others is behavior associated with scarcity. There's a reason it's called an 'open' relationship, seeing as it requires a large amount of openness and security.Does morality or “constructs” of morality fit into Ray’s perspective? I know of a guy (Aleister Crowley) who used to say do what thou wilt. No consequences. Not comparing ray to him by any stretch but we all want to validate our behaviours one way or another. I used to really like the idea of having multiple gfs... Now I don’t think it’s an ideal for my way of life ethically. Jmo