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I don't understand, I thought 1 tsp = ~5 grams so you'd be getting 3 tsp a day, and a tsp had about 32mg caffeine?

According to nutritiondata 1 tsp of intant coffee is 1 gram
and per gram there is 32 mg of caffeine. I am getting
about 500 mg from 15 gram of instant coffee.
 

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I had similar experience with supplements increasing metabolism.
I use Sleep quality as the ultimate test, anything that improves.
sleep is added and anything that disrupts sleep is removed.
Another problem with increased metabolism is that i have
to constantly eat nutritious food to supply nutrients
needed for metabolism. That will cause people to add
10 more supplements for that. I believe supplement
driven approach works for people in good health, especially
young athletic type with good dietary habits.
Allergen in supplement is a big problem.

I think for 30 plus people with tons of stored pufa
it is much more difficult to make quick improvement.
It is quite difficult to limit pufa intake below 4 grams unless
i am very careful. Looking at PUFA intake by countries
it seems that there is a huge difference in health
with people getting 4 grams of PUFA and 10 grams of PUFA.
Also using Niacinamide/aspirin and frequent feeding
lower PUFA burning. Cronometer has been very helpful
in counting PUFA.

In my experience food quality has been the biggest
factor in liver health. There are so many problematic
food around us it is daunting task figuring out good
quality food without allergens and irritants.
Food diary has been very helpful. Sugared
milk Coffee with 1-2 tbs of sugar 2-3 grams of
instant coffee 4-5 cups a day improved liver function
for me. Niacinamide 50-100 mg 2-3 times helped
liver function. Small dose half to 1 mg Cyproheptadine
improves sleep quality. Raw carrot salad in the afternoon
separate from the meal was very helpful. Low dose
tetracycline had more dramatic improvement.
Some people do not do well with carrot salad
for them cooked bamboo shoots or cooked mushroom
can be helpful.


Thanks for this Mittir, yesterday a light-bulb went off and I reviewed RP's thoughts on blood sugar, sleep and thyroid. I do need to work on sleep and things that help. My sleep has been better, but definitely not good enough! Points to my liver being 'sluggish' and me staying on stress hormones with higher estrogen.

I will switch to small amounts B3, caffeine, and 2.5mcg T3 (every 2hrs) a few times, and drop other supps for now. I will track temps and heart rate again.

Cyproheptadine makes me real tired in the mornings, but I will test at 0.5mg for a few nights.

For tetracycline; how long and what dosage did you try?


http://www.functionalps.com/blog/2012/03/25/ray-peat-phd-on-thyroid-temperature-pulse-and-tsh/http://www.functionalps.com/blog/2012/11/26/ray-peat-phd-on-low-blood-sugar-stress-reaction/
Ray Peat, PhD on Low Blood Sugar & Stress Reaction – Functional Performance Systems (FPS) http://www.functionalps.com/blog/2012/11/19/temperature-and-pulse-basics-monthly-log/
Temperature and Pulse Basics & Monthly Log – Functional Performance Systems (FPS)
 
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In my experience food quality has been the biggest
factor in liver health. There are so many problematic
food around us it is daunting task figuring out good
quality food without allergens and irritants.

@Mittir, I think that is a fundamental approach.
Aspirin, do you think that 100 mg at night is a good dose? [with vitamin K a few times a week]
 

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@Mittir, I think that is a fundamental approach.
Aspirin, do you think that 100 mg at night is a good dose? [with vitamin K a few times a week]

100 mg few times a week sounds quite safe. I think RP mentioned that even
this amount lowers cancer risk. If it causes sleep problem then you can take it at
day time. Some people are Aspirin intolerant. If it is the first time you are taking
aspirin it would be a good idea to watch for possible reaction. You can add little
bit of baking soda in water to dissolve the aspirin, aspirin is more soluble in
alkaline water. Though RP recommends warm water to dissolve it.
You can also consider using high dose K2 for other health benefits.
 

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For tetracycline; how long and what dosage did you try?

First time i tried 50 mg for 5-6 days with big improvement
in temperature and over all health. Later i was only taking
smaller doses like 30-40 mg whenever i felt like temp
was lowered . I have not used tetracycline in last 5-6 months
possibly due to warm weather. I might need this in winter.
I started tetracycline after i stopped carrot salad.
 

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@Mittir Cool that I am not alone in using instant coffee all these months :) I think it tastes better than espresso. I use up to 5 tablespoons a day sometimes even higher, in organic UHT milk with sugar and HCO and it's doing wonders. I even shower with instant coffee.

Regarding tetracycline, where did you get it from? brand name? I think endotoxin load reduces metabolism very clearly and when I have it under control my temperature goes up as well.
 

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@Mittir Cool that I am not alone in using instant coffee all these months :) I think it tastes better than espresso. I use up to 5 tablespoons a day sometimes even higher, in organic UHT milk with sugar and HCO and it's doing wonders. I even shower with instant coffee.

Regarding tetracycline, where did you get it from? brand name? I think endotoxin load reduces metabolism very clearly and when I have it under control my temperature goes up as well.

Also any thoughts on mino, doxy, and penicillin verses tetra?
 

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Also any thoughts on mino, doxy, and penicillin verses tetra?
I have only tried Doxy and Tetra, because i had access to these.
I think for me Tetra is bit more effective than doxy.
RP seems to talked more about micocycline than other antibiotics.
Small dose Doxy has some studies for acne cure. He has mentioned
all four to different people.

Edit: You need to make sure you are getting enough vitamin K
while taking antibiotics
 
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I avoid supplements, i only use few supplements that i can not go without.
I was not in a hurry and i like steady and continuous improvement, slow or fast.

@Mittir this is a great strategy!

How about those folks, like me, whose food info world has been turned upside down and cannot assess the damage?

I understand that deleting PUFA first is the key, but what are the ways and how can we monitor?

For me, I believe most effective way would be to cut away the stuff that hurt you first, and than at same time if possible, add stuff to enhance your life. So first things first: Cut PUFA, minimize estrogen stimulation, work on speeding up metabolism by adding sugar/fruit juice as carb source while minimizing fat intake (only saturate fats) and monitor protein to be at or above 100g - 150g depends on one's need. Eat often. Check pulse and temperature, etc.

Just started pregnenolone 30mg and lowered DHEA to 10mg. Will have to monitor...learn to monitor.
What are the ways to check the gut health and safe to introduce tetracycline of small dose?

Lately ever since milk and sugar at bedtime, I slept better, deeper and longer. It's pleasantly strange.

FYI, enjoy reading your corresponding comments.

Thanks
 

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First time i tried 50 mg for 5-6 days with big improvement
in temperature and over all health. Later i was only taking
smaller doses like 30-40 mg whenever i felt like temp
was lowered . I have not used tetracycline in last 5-6 months
possibly due to warm weather. I might need this in winter.
I started tetracycline after i stopped carrot salad.
Great posts, btw, Mittir. Learning so much from you. May I ask why you stopped the carrot salad? How do you go about using tetracyclines? How do you dose it over how long? I'm now intrigued, also RP mentioned it in an email to me regarding my autistic daughter as something I may consider. Obviously I would want to try it on me first and would seek advice first before giving it to my daughter. At the moment she's been having carrot everyday under threats and bribes, I think she may just accept it as a permanent feature of her diet.
 

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Great posts, btw, Mittir. Learning so much from you. May I ask why you stopped the carrot salad? How do you go about using tetracyclines? How do you dose it over how long? I'm now intrigued, also RP mentioned it in an email to me regarding my autistic daughter as something I may consider. Obviously I would want to try it on me first and would seek advice first before giving it to my daughter. At the moment she's been having carrot everyday under threats and bribes, I think she may just accept it as a permanent feature of her diet.

I ate raw carrot salad for 2-3 years everyday and grew tired of it.
Eating the salad separate from the meal is bothersome.
So, i tried both cooked bamboo shoots and cooked mushroom
as substitute for carrot. These two can be eaten with meal.
I did not get much benefit from mushroom, but i plan to try
it again with different preparation. Bamboo shoots is quite
effective but i get upset stomach if i eat it everyday.
I may have to try smaller amount in future.

In the beginning i took tetracycline/doxycyline for
4-5 days 50 mg with meal or without meal but
separate from milk and calcium. Calcium blocks
tetracycline absorption. Now i only take it
occasionally. I get upset stomach if i take 100 mg for
4-5 days and 50 mg supposed to be sub-antimicrobial.
But, i will be regular with carrot or bamboo shoot
soon as i am feeling the low energy of winter.

Have you tried Niacinamide? Of all the vitamins i have tried
Niacinamide 50-100 mg two to three times a day with meal
has been the most beneficial and it happens very quickly.
It is calming and gives extra resilience.
 

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I ate raw carrot salad for 2-3 years everyday and grew tired of it.
Eating the salad separate from the meal is bothersome.
So, i tried both cooked bamboo shoots and cooked mushroom
as substitute for carrot. These two can be eaten with meal.
I did not get much benefit from mushroom, but i plan to try
it again with different preparation. Bamboo shoots is quite
effective but i get upset stomach if i eat it everyday.
I may have to try smaller amount in future.

In the beginning i took tetracycline/doxycyline for
4-5 days 50 mg with meal or without meal but
separate from milk and calcium. Calcium blocks
tetracycline absorption. Now i only take it
occasionally. I get upset stomach if i take 100 mg for
4-5 days and 50 mg supposed to be sub-antimicrobial.
But, i will be regular with carrot or bamboo shoot
soon as i am feeling the low energy of winter.

Have you tried Niacinamide? Of all the vitamins i have tried
Niacinamide 50-100 mg two to three times a day with meal
has been the most beneficial and it happens very quickly.
It is calming and gives extra resilience.

Thank you so much Mittir for explaining the dosing. I will certainly get some if I can get it a legal way to have it just in case of a flare up of mouth sores or particularly bad digestive episode. I try not to worry about eating carrots away from meals. I found that when I did that I then often times forgot about it completely, so now I just eat it whenever I remember usually before or after dinner. Hopefully no damage done. Never tried Niacinamide and as a matter of fact I never even really looked into it and only know that it is one of the B vitamins. B3 is it? What is its main purpose? I think I may have read some where how it could destabilise the blood sugar and I often have that happen to me when I supplement B vitamins, like in Haidut's Energin, testimony to how potent this stuff is. Shop bought B vitamins never had any such effect on me. So for this reason I am a bit wary of supplementing B vitamins, I struggle with blood sugar as is even when i think I ate enough, I could suffer a really bad blood sugar episode especially after breakfast. I think I may eat less than I need because of stress hormones giving me a signal of fullness when in fact I could eat more. Confirmed by when on cypro, I eat a lot more and gain weight as well. But I would love to know more, please do share if you think it could help me.
 

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Thank you so much Mittir for explaining the dosing. I will certainly get some if I can get it a legal way to have it just in case of a flare up of mouth sores or particularly bad digestive episode. I try not to worry about eating carrots away from meals. I found that when I did that I then often times forgot about it completely, so now I just eat it whenever I remember usually before or after dinner. Hopefully no damage done. Never tried Niacinamide and as a matter of fact I never even really looked into it and only know that it is one of the B vitamins. B3 is it? What is its main purpose? I think I may have read some where how it could destabilise the blood sugar and I often have that happen to me when I supplement B vitamins, like in Haidut's Energin, testimony to how potent this stuff is. Shop bought B vitamins never had any such effect on me. So for this reason I am a bit wary of supplementing B vitamins, I struggle with blood sugar as is even when i think I ate enough, I could suffer a really bad blood sugar episode especially after breakfast. I think I may eat less than I need because of stress hormones giving me a signal of fullness when in fact I could eat more. Confirmed by when on cypro, I eat a lot more and gain weight as well. But I would love to know more, please do share if you think it could help me.

My understanding is that eating carrot salad after sunset is risky and problematic.
Digestion slows down after sunset and RP recommends eating easily digestible
food for dinner. There is a potential for fermentation. Eating with meal can
minimise the benefit of carrot and increase absorption of beta carotene.
Excess beta carotene is anti-thyroid. Some people eat raw carrot with breakfast
or lunch, even 1 hour before meal should increase the effectiveness of raw carrot.
I have increased fiber from fruits like cooked apple, ripe banana ( not peaty but it helps
with BM) and safe vegetables like zucchini since stopping raw carrot.
I think you can experiment with eating raw carrot salad during day time
1-2 hour before meal and days you can not do that use cooked mushroom
and other source of soluble fiber with or without meal. Fiber increases
gut motility, except for some toxic fibers most fibers are beneficial.
I add coconut oil with fruits and vegetable for extra antimicrobial effect.

Main cause of most chronic health issues is stored PUFA. Niacinamide
blocks the release of free fatty acids and for people with high storage
of PUFA it is mostly PUFA in free fatty acids form,which causes all kinds of problems
including injuring every cell and organ. RP usually recommends
Niacinamide or Aspirin to prevent this PUFA release.
High dose vitamin E can also do this, but you will need to take
vitamin K with it. Aspirin also needs vitamin K to prevent bleeding.
Niaicinamide does not need anything else but frequent feeding
to compensate for decrease in free fatty acid. Body also burn
sugar more efficiently when there is less Free fatty acids in the blood.
Niacinamide also increase a compound named NAD, which increases
energy production and is anti-aging. There are tons of health benefit
from this simple vitamin. I do not think taking 50 to 100 mg
of niacinamide would cause weight gain from extra eating.
It is better to start with small dose like 25 mg with meal
and increase slowly up to 50 to 100 mg two to three times a day.
I never felt good using b complex vitamins. RP thinks
synthetic riboflavin and folic acids are allergenic.
 
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My understanding is that eating carrot salad after sunset is risky and problematic.
Digestion slows down after sunset and RP recommends eating easily digestible
food for dinner. There is a potential for fermentation. Eating with meal can
minimise the benefit of carrot and increase absorption of beta carotene.
Excess beta carotene is anti-thyroid. Some people eat raw carrot with breakfast
or lunch, even 1 hour before meal should increase the effectiveness of raw carrot.
I have increased fiber from fruits like cooked apple, ripe banana ( not peaty but it helps
with BM) and safe vegetables like zucchini since stopping raw carrot.
I think you can experiment with eating raw carrot salad during day time
1-2 hour before meal and days you can not do that use cooked mushroom
and other source of soluble fiber with or without meal. Fiber increases
gut motility, except for some toxic fibers most fibers are beneficial.
I add coconut oil with fruits and vegetable for extra antimicrobial effect.

Main cause of most chronic health issues is stored PUFA. Niacinamide
blocks the release of free fatty acids and for people with high storage
of PUFA it is mostly PUFA in free fatty acids form,which causes all kinds of problems
including injuring every cell and organ. RP usually recommends
Niacinamide or Aspirin to prevent this PUFA release.
High dose vitamin E can also do this, but you will need to take
vitamin K with it. Aspirin also needs vitamin K to prevent bleeding.
Niaicinamide does not need anything else but frequent feeding
to compensate for decrease in free fatty acid. Body also burn
sugar more efficiently when there is less Free fatty acids in the blood.
Niacinamide also increase a compound named NAD, which increases
energy production and is anti-aging. There are tons of health benefit
from this simple vitamin. I do not think taking 50 to 100 mg
of niacinamide would cause weight gain from extra eating.
It is better to start with small dose like 25 mg with meal
and increase slowly up to 50 to 100 mg two to three times a day.
I never felt good using b complex vitamins. RP thinks
synthetic riboflavin and folic acids are allergenic.
@Mittir
It's always great to read your comments, they are so helpful as others have noticed. THANK YOU!

I did not know about the sequence of eating carrots and fermentations. So no late night eating except sugared milk before bedtime?

If you don't mind, would you give us an example of your daily food intake in sequence?
 

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My understanding is that eating carrot salad after sunset is risky and problematic.
Digestion slows down after sunset and RP recommends eating easily digestible
food for dinner. There is a potential for fermentation. Eating with meal can
minimise the benefit of carrot and increase absorption of beta carotene.
Excess beta carotene is anti-thyroid. Some people eat raw carrot with breakfast
or lunch, even 1 hour before meal should increase the effectiveness of raw carrot.
I have increased fiber from fruits like cooked apple, ripe banana ( not peaty but it helps
with BM) and safe vegetables like zucchini since stopping raw carrot.
I think you can experiment with eating raw carrot salad during day time
1-2 hour before meal and days you can not do that use cooked mushroom
and other source of soluble fiber with or without meal. Fiber increases
gut motility, except for some toxic fibers most fibers are beneficial.
I add coconut oil with fruits and vegetable for extra antimicrobial effect.

Main cause of most chronic health issues is stored PUFA. Niacinamide
blocks the release of free fatty acids and for people with high storage
of PUFA it is mostly PUFA in free fatty acids form,which causes all kinds of problems
including injuring every cell and organ. RP usually recommends
Niacinamide or Aspirin to prevent this PUFA release.
High dose vitamin E can also do this, but you will need to take
vitamin K with it. Aspirin also needs vitamin K to prevent bleeding.
Niaicinamide does not need anything else but frequent feeding
to compensate for decrease in free fatty acid. Body also burn
sugar more efficiently when there is less Free fatty acids in the blood.
Niacinamide also increase a compound named NAD, which increases
energy production and is anti-aging. There are tons of health benefit
from this simple vitamin. I do not think taking 50 to 100 mg
of niacinamide would cause weight gain from extra eating.
It is better to start with small dose like 25 mg with meal
and increase slowly up to 50 to 100 mg two to three times a day.
I never felt good using b complex vitamins. RP thinks
synthetic riboflavin and folic acids are allergenic.

Mittir, so very helpful again. Me too, I wasn't aware of no carrots after dinner. It makes sense. Funnily enough, since I started being meticulous about eating carrot every day now, I have noticed some bothersome fermentation and bloating in my colon and thought that perhaps it was carrot cleaning me out, but now I'm not so sure. It may have been the carrot fermentation you mention. I will make sure to take it in the morning from now on. Thanks for the tip.
And thank you explaining about Niacinamide. What brand do you use? I like that you don't need to take it with anything unlike aspirin. I have been taking Aspirin now and then but feel more comfortable with something that doesn't have blood thinning properties and something that I don't need to worry about taking it daily.
 

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It happens that I also decided to take a raw carrot 1st in the morning.... But it means then that I have to wait 1 hour before eating anything else!? I take it with vinegar, cider one. and some coconut oil. and I love to have a few raisins in it.... better taste!
 
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I've been eating carrot before bedtime. No problems. Fantastic. I think it is better because it transits over hours and hours of fasting.
 
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