its sad because im sure there are some people here that appreciate, but whatever...if its basically direct ray peat quote or nothing...then theres no point in me even talking about anything..in fact, why even have the forum? just make a quotes list, and put 'acceptable things to say or suggest' in one column, and 'blasphemy to even mention' in another. Ray is pretty much the opposite of this, but somehow people put the guy in a box that he probably doesn't even want to be in. Do you realize how much info even he has changed throughout his life? book to book? youre supposed to be growing and learning new things, honing, unless you assume you are literally perfect right now