@Advocate2021 yeah no problem with that. You can certainly follow some of Ray's teaching and include certain foods and lean more or less into the whole framework and get better. Dairy isn't required after all and I'm sure Ray would agree.
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This is very accurate.I never see testimonials of people curing chronic disease with peats way of eating.
But testimonials from people with chronic diseases being cured from the carnivore diet there are like thousands now, and the gaps diet even more. Maybe if you are already healthy you can follow peats advise and thrive
I urge you to do a search around the forum and see for yourelf; how many people with serious crippling health issues can include lots of dairy in their diet and heal that way? People with hypothyroidism, male/female hypogonadism, PCOS etc.
The rate limiting factor of every diet is the health of the participants so I'm not sure what the point is here. The healthier people trying the diet the better the outcome. The trick is to include severly sick people and have them reclaim their health.
@Jennifer I don't deny that there are people who have had great success with this approach and dairy based diets in general, just that the track record seems so so, but that's the case with pretty much every single nutritional approach. Dairy is a very peculiar food group that seems to have a very polarizing effect on people, and for good reason. Most people seem to have some degree of intolerance to it, even the healthy ones. I like Ray's approach the most out of them all, because he actually focuses on biological processes that occur inside the body rather than, for example, bro-science based approach of going back to some imaginary past and eating a diet that people from 200.000 thousand years ago might have eaten. The one problem I have is that Ray seems over-enthusiastic about dairy. I get it, it fits his approach perfectly, at least at the surface level.
I have read your story by the way, it's very impressive.
Author of this book was recently interviewed by Tim Ferriss. Palmer certaintly sounds like he was heavily influenced by Peat, but no mention of Peat in the very interesting and moving interview. Am waiting for Palmer's book and will look there for Peat mentioned:Or: If Peating works, where are all the testimonials?
I'm listening to the new book called "brain energy" where he argues that metabolic problems are at the root of human suffering.
He doesn't mentioned Dr. Peat, but it seems to me that what he has unearthed is what Dr. Peat as been speaking about
So my question is: as anyone been able to radically improve their well-being by Peating?
Edit: by "he" I mean the author of the book. I was going to add a link but forgot. Here it is:Brain Energy: A Revolutionary Breakthrough in Understanding Mental Health--and Improving Treatment for Anxiety, Depression, OCD, PTSD, and More: Palmer MD, Christopher M.: 9781637741580: Amazon.com: Books
I was already eating tons of yogurt and feta like cheese before discovering this forum. But drinking milk is something else. Yesterday I drank 3 cups of milk UHT store bought one of wich with cocoa and white sugar and Ive been warm troughout the day. Especialy in the evening had very pleasent feeling of warmth.of course too, several forms of dairy can be chosen from, like greek yogurt and cheeses with a beter tollerance for the predigestion of the protein induces changes to it's structure and imporves the absorption.
I’ve had similar experiences. But what have you found the benefits of the vitamin E were? Can you recommend any brands I can try on Amazon?absolutely mega bigtime hellyeah
avoiding PUFA and using niacinamide-aspirin-vitamin-e fix my chronic inflammation and hairloss and depression and improve sleep.
Sugar over starches and bacillus subtilus sporebiotics and carrots and bran -edit- +cascara, fixed my digestion, IBS, constipationa while improving mood and cognitive function and energy.
etc etc
The effects of vitamin E are mild. I feel it gives more a calming energy. Seems to have most effect on cell healing when taken before sleep via the autophagy mTOR pathway. for example: Akt/AMPK/mTOR pathway was involved in the autophagy induced by vitamin E succinate in human gastric cancer SGC-7901 cells - PubMedI’ve had similar experiences. But what have you found the benefits of the vitamin E were? Can you recommend any brands I can try on Amazon?
If you put it that way, then yes you have a point. tolerability can be a matter of missing expressions of enzymes in the gut from hypotheyroidsim or imflammation.@PeskyPeater If a person needs a higher level of health to 'tolerate' certain food then it's not a good healing food, period, and therefore why is it recommended to sick people?
using raw goat milk at teaspoon at the time and working your way up weekly, is a way to tolerate any other milk again. The body may adapt.I have noticed on this forum over the years that there's a certain pattern where people can't tolerate dairy at all for years and years and they need to achieve a certain level of health to be able to tolerate it. They achieve it through methods that do not include dairy. Once they get to that point they can indeed maybe include dairy and achieve even better health, but many never get there and just give up on dairy (and this whole nutritional approach) and leave the forum. Some are stuck in a perpetual wrestling match between their own n=1 and Ray's view of dairy.
There's also the problem that there's a lot of healthy people coming here who seek to 'optimize' and frankly I don't really care about their opinion and which foods they tolerate. A lot of people also need various hormonal supplements to be able to include dairy in their diet . It's a highly problematic food in general.
I urge you to do a search around the forum and see for yourelf; how many people with serious crippling health issues can include lots of dairy in their diet and heal that way? People with hypothyroidism, male/female hypogonadism, PCOS etc.
The rate limiting factor of every diet is the health of the participants so I'm not sure what the point is here. The healthier people trying the diet the better the outcome. The trick is to include severly sick people and have them reclaim their health.
EDIT: also another point is that there are people on this forum who have perfect health if they exclude dairy.