Woman With Pistol Killed Man Who Shot At Crowd

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So she didn't wait 90 minutes .. :confused:


Police said a woman who was lawfully carrying a pistol shot and killed a man who began shooting at a crowd of people Wednesday night in Charleston.

Dennis Butler was killed after allegedly shooting at dozens of people attending a graduation party Wednesday near the Vista View Apartment complex. No injuries were reported from those at the party.

Investigators said Butler was warned about speeding in the area with children present before he left. He later returned with an AR-15-style firearm and began firing into the crowd before he was shot and killed.
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Charleston police said a man who was shot late Wednesday night has died.

A bystander at the party quickly drew their weapon and fired at Dennis Butler, fatally wounding him.

No one else was injured.
 
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God bless that woman.
 
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People with guns stop far more crime than they cause in the USA. The right of self defense protects others and maintains a civil society. Police are there to intimidate on behalf of the state. When a crime is being committed they won’t protect you, clearly, and never have.
 
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Is a propaganda war, people should check the statistics instead of listening to the TV/radio.

Also, the courts have already established that the police has no legal obligation to protect you, check the legal precedents.

It is in the interest of the government to groom people under the influence (or lack ;)) of anti-depressant drugs.


SSRIstories - Antidepressant Nightmares

SSRI Stories is a collection of over 7,000 stories most of which were published newspapers or scientific journals. In these stories, prescription antidepressant medications are mentioned. Common to all of them is the possibility – sometimes the near certainty – that the drugs caused or were a contributing factor to some negative outcome: suicide, violence, serious physical problems, bad withdrawal reactions, personality change leading to loss of reputation and relationships, etc.
 
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A good article about the lack of duty by the State to protect:


And one of the cases:

Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled, 7–2, that a town and its police department could not be sued under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 for failing to enforce a restraining order, which had led to the murder of a woman's three children by her estranged husband.[1]

and the other:

DeShaney v. Winnebago County, 489 U.S. 189 (1989), was a case decided by the Supreme Court of the United States on February 22, 1989. The court held that a state government agency's failure to prevent child abuse by a custodial parent does not violate the child's right to liberty for the purposes of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.
 
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How the government grooms people ..

 
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Border Patrol Tactical Team Was Ordered to Hold Back Before Confronting the Gunman

When specially equipped federal immigration agents arrived at the elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday, the local police at the scene would not allow them to go after the gunman who had opened fire on students inside the school, according to two officials briefed on the situation.

The agents from Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrived at some point between 12 and 12:10 p.m., according to the officials — far earlier than previously known. But they did not breach the adjoining classrooms of the school where the gunman had locked himself in until a little before 1 p.m. Members of the federal tactical team killed the gunman.

The officials said that members of the Uvalde Police Department kept the federal agents from going in sooner.
 
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I don’t understand the desire and acceptance that anyone can own an AR-15. How armed to the teeth do you want members of the public to be allowed to be? I‘m fine with pistols, because if someone goes on a rampage with one, it’s much harder to produce mass casualties before you are neutralized, but any automatic weapon I think is overkill.

But there seems no desire to change, so I guess I’ll keep seeing news stories of massacres in your country.
 
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Check your facts, AR-15s and pistols are semi-automatic weapons, unlike a machine gun, which is fully automatic.

"An automatic firearm is an auto-loading firearm that continuously chambers and fires rounds when the trigger mechanism is actuated."

The AR-15 is a semi-automatic weapon that shoots one round for each pull of the trigger.

AR-15 rifles are not "assault" weapons, whatever that means since the ATF nominee had no definition for what an "assault" weapon is, even though he's calling for a ban on them:

Senator Cotton Presses Biden's ATF Nominee on 'Defining' Assault Weapon

View: https://youtu.be/7OLr4ve4Fds?t=112

Moreover, ...

'I had no idea he had bought two AR-15s': Texas school shooter's grandad reveals he is a felon who can't be near guns ...

The federal government makes it difficult for law-abiding citizens to acquire weapons, yet a patient released from a mental hospital not only has the $$$, but is also able to acquire two AR-15s.

He said his grandson was a loner who spent most of his time in his room and who never attended school

If you don't smell a rat, a lack of serious, time-consuming analysis is at fault.

Do we blame the tool, the shooter, or the government?

"Responsibility for crime lies with criminals. Responsibility for failing to deal with criminals rests with those public officials mandated to run the criminal justice system."

Criminals will get guns and the biggest criminal institution (government) already got them, so where does that leaves us?

And don't forget what the government did when warned about the dangers of anti-depressants:

Antidepressants and the FDA’s Black-Box Warning

In October of 2004, the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) issued a “black-box” label warning indicating that the use of certain antidepressants to treat major depressive disorder (MDD) in adolescents may increase the risk of suicidal ideations and behaviors.

.. SSRIs have not been found efficacious in randomized clinical trials. Moreover, the group also noticed an increased risk of suicidal behaviors among adolescent patients being treated with SSRIs and judged that the balance of risks and benefits did not favor the use of SSRIs for adolescents with MDD.
 
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Authorities Investigating If Retired Federal Agent Knew of Buffalo Mass Shooting Plans in Advance

Law enforcement officers are investigating whether a retired federal agent had about 30 minutes advance notice of a white supremacist's plans to murder Black people at a Buffalo supermarket, two law enforcement officials told The Buffalo News.

Authorities believe the former agent – believed to be from Texas – was one of at least six individuals who regularly communicated with accused gunman Payton Gendron in an online chat room where racist hatred was discussed, the two officials said.

The two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation stated these individuals were invited by Gendron to read about his mass shooting plans and the target location about 30 minutes before Gendron killed 10 people at Tops Markets on Jefferson Avenue on May 14.

Agents from the FBI are in the process of tracking down and interviewing the six people, including the retired agent, and attempting to determine if any of them should be charged as accomplices, the two sources with close knowledge of the probe told The Buffalo News.


FBI Cannot Be Trusted

The Federal Bureau of Investigation claims to be above politics, but that's not so

Can anyone with a modicum of common sense trust the Federal Bureau of investigation? The answer to that question is a resounding “no.” The claim that the FBI strives to be above politics is today and has always been absurd. When former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover admitted in an interview that his “agents” had tapped the phones of 1964 Republican candidate Barry Goldwater and even bugged his campaign plane, Mr. Hoover told his interviewer, who wondered how someone in his position could so cavalierly ignore the law and the constitutional rights of American citizens, that when the president asks you deliver.

As an institution, the Bureau has always been more interested in its own image than in crime, espionage and terrorism, but its briefing on how James Thomas Hodgkinson came to shoot the third highest ranking member of Congress on June 14 in Alexandria boggles the mind as Bureau spokesmen more interested in political correctness than facts twisted what anyone with a passing interest in the episode already knew into a narrative that makes no sense.
 

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I don’t understand the desire and acceptance that anyone can own an AR-15. How armed to the teeth do you want members of the public to be allowed to be? I‘m fine with pistols, because if someone goes on a rampage with one, it’s much harder to produce mass casualties before you are neutralized, but any automatic weapon I think is overkill.

But there seems no desire to change, so I guess I’ll keep seeing news stories of massacres in your country.
That's the propaganda our government is teaching. Even the part about the "automatic" weapon.
 

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An example of our "journalists" at work:

Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson appears on CBS with dramatic narrative engineer, Margaret Brennan, to discuss the Ulvalde, Texas school shooting and the aftermath. In the very first sentence of her lead-in context, Brennan makes three remarkably false assertions to frame the basis of a manipulated interview. [Transcript Here]

Notice the lead, “There was an armed officer assigned to the elementary school in Uvalde [FALSE]. And then you had a police force response [FALSE], where they did not confront the shooter who was carrying an AR-15 [FALSE].” There was no armed officer present, there was no police force response, and the shooter was not carrying an AR-15. From there the dramatic acting of Margaret Breann begins.

 
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Who talks like that?

Biden says AR-15 owners who say they need weapons to ‘take on the government’ would be extremely outgunned

Gun activists who claim they need the type of weapons used in a pair of deadly mass shootings earlier this month to defend themselves from hypothetical government tyranny would be hopelessly outgunned, President Joe Biden has said.
 
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Who talks like that?

Biden says AR-15 owners who say they need weapons to ‘take on the government’ would be extremely outgunned

Gun activists who claim they need the type of weapons used in a pair of deadly mass shootings earlier this month to defend themselves from hypothetical government tyranny would be hopelessly outgunned, President Joe Biden has said.
It's a pistol with a longer barrel. Geez.

Uh yuh. It's our taxes that pay for their weapons. We know we are out-gunned.
 

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Who talks like that?

Biden says AR-15 owners who say they need weapons to ‘take on the government’ would be extremely outgunned

Gun activists who claim they need the type of weapons used in a pair of deadly mass shootings earlier this month to defend themselves from hypothetical government tyranny would be hopelessly outgunned, President Joe Biden has said.
Don’t you think what he’s saying is true?

The (legacy) idea that many have that they need rifles to protect themselves from a tyrannical government was probably correct around the founding time of the US. Nowadays if the government wants to get you an AR-15 won’t save you. Government forces have rifles, sniper weapons, flash bangs, smoke grenades, ballistic shields, armored vehicles, drones, plus they can outnumber you hundreds to one.
 

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colourful, but accurate.
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@Regina


View: https://youtu.be/31oB4LoLLO0?t=24

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This is what Biden said: Resistance is futile!

For one, he's showing the totalitarian mentality that others are arguing about when he frames gun ownership as a fringe issue.

The government doesn't grant the right to own a gun, so it can't take it away, unless it does by force.

That's what is written in the contract (don't you feel tired of being "represented") as the 2nd Amendment (unratified amendment notwithstanding).

Many people, including those in brainwashed/disarmed countries that are ruled by unelected bureaucrats (Europe), think that having the means to protect themselves, which today means owning guns, is some kind of special grace that must be granted by some higher power in government.
 
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