Turned Straight After 14 Months Of Peating

[Waynish]

Cannot recall where I read it some years ago, but some specialists in sexuality and biology made a pretty good case for saying there is no true bi-sexuality, as if another option distinct from heterosexuality and homosexuality. Bisexuality is a genre or variation of homosexuality, and never a type or form of heterosexuality.

+1

 

[Constatine]

Yes, topical.

In simple terms, it is the avoidance of urgency.
Honestly I could write a book about this.
It's hard to structure your life that you feel there is abundance of time.
It is about trying to feel what you do is important, but doesn't have to be done right now.
It could also be done tomorrow, or next month.
But you choose to do it now.

Of course, there are always urgencies, and you got to deal with that.
But you can try to organise your life, to avoid it as much as possible.

Sounds quite meditative.

 

[A.R]

For people that are interested in an update.
I'm still with my girlfriend and I'm very attracted to her.

At this moment, what I eat:
- 2x 1000 ml of OJ
- 2x 500 ml of skyr
- other fruits, such as banana, mango, melons, apples, berries
- eggs, organ meats, shellfish
- extra starches to support my need for calories, together with vegetables fried in coconut oil for example mushrooms and spinach with brown rice pasta, or patotoes with sauerkraut
- sometimes gelatin powder, sometimes gelatin desserts
- coffee

vitamin D: 20000 UI (health natura)
vitamin A: 75000 UI (health natura)
vitamin E: 40 IU (tocovit from idealabs)
vitamin K2: 10 mg (idealabs)

At this moment, I'm more and more beginning to realise how my mindset contributes to my metabolic health.
And this seems a larger factor to me than what I can achieve with finetuning diet and supplements (at this moment in my life).

If you think about thyroid, it seems to be the hormone of abundance.
You get in a thyroid metabolism if every thing is all right.
There is an abundance of calories.
Abundance of carbs, abundance of proteins.
An abundance of all the micronutrients that a body needs.
And last but not least, there has to be abundance of time.

And this last thing, making my body feel that there is an abundance of time, seems to be the most important thing for me at the moment.

What are your timings for taking the fat solubles, and which body parts do you rub them on

Thank You

 

[sladerunner69]

I wrote about something similar to this some days ago. How 'ex' gay men may feel a sense of shame after reverting to heterosexuality. It make perfect sense.

The sense of shame isn't all that bad, to be clear. I don't believe that men where biologically designed to only have sex for procreation. Anthropologists will point out that most early civilizations and primitive tribes did not chastise men for engaging in homo stuff. Early hunters probably engaged in it a lot, as a form of bonding with their fellow warriors on long hunts. I read this somewhere. It was the development of modern civilization and religious morals and customs that made acts of homosexuality taboo and wrong. I see the merits in civilization and the importance of classifying it as immorale especially for growing societies, and it does seem relatively "unnatural" from a physiological perspective, but I don't think it is all that big of a deal.

 

[steel_reserve]

This guy turned gay after Lyrica

Man declares he is attracted to men after taking painkillers

 

[x-ray peat]

I knew several women who were either hardcore lesbians or adamantly bi-sexual when younger and then magically grew out of it and turned straight when in their late twenties. I think a lot of that has to do with societal conditioning that encourages girls to make out for male entertainment and has made being a lesbian more socially acceptable.

Not sure if that's what happened here but I think we have all seen the heavy propaganda laid down on us to make homosexuality more of the norm. Because of that more and more straight boys will be experimenting with homosexuality without realizing that they are just the victim of good marketing. Sexual choice has a lot more to do with psychology than is politically correct to admit.

 

[Constatine]

The sense of shame isn't all that bad, to be clear. I don't believe that men where biologically designed to only have sex for procreation. Anthropologists will point out that most early civilizations and primitive tribes did not chastise men for engaging in homo stuff. Early hunters probably engaged in it a lot, as a form of bonding with their fellow warriors on long hunts. I read this somewhere. It was the development of modern civilization and religious morals and customs that made acts of homosexuality taboo and wrong. I see the merits in civilization and the importance of classifying it as immorale especially for growing societies, and it does seem relatively "unnatural" from a physiological perspective, but I don't think it is all that big of a deal.

But for many straight men, myself included, we find such acts very repulsive despite growing up in a culture friendly to homosexuality. By repulsive I do not mean we find the homosexual interactions morally wrong but rather it is just sparks a feeling of aversion. One of my closest friends is gay and very feminine so despite me being exposed to homosexual behavior if he kisses a guy in front of me that feeling of aversion still arises. So I don't think that homosexual behavior has a lot to do with culture but rather is entirely dependent upon physiology.

 

[lvysaur]

Because of that more and more straight boys will be experimenting with homosexuality without realizing that they are just the victim of good marketing. Sexual choice has a lot more to do with psychology than is politically correct to admit.

I disagree; the literature generally points to female sex drives being more "socially malleable" than male ones. The culture may still play a role, but some boys are just genetically prone to homosexuality, whereas other boys might not be physiologically able to fall for it, no matter how acceptable it is.

There's also the fact that boys with older brothers are more likely to be gay, and this is due to biological reasons.

 

[x-ray peat]

I disagree; the literature generally points to female sex drives being more "socially malleable" than male ones. The culture may still play a role, but some boys are just genetically prone to homosexuality, whereas other boys might not be physiologically able to fall for it, no matter how acceptable it is.

There's also the fact that boys with older brothers are more likely to be gay, and this is due to biological reasons.

I agree that a good part of sexual preference is biological but am only saying that we shouldn't ignore the social and psychological issues that come into play.
So I'm not talking about all boys but rather boys who are on the margin so to speak; the ones that may be more "socially malleable" (to steal your phrase) than others. Just because women's sexual preferences are more fluid than men's doesn't mean that men's sexual preferences aren't fluid at all. And because of this, any increase in positive societal attitudes towards homosexuality would necessarily result in an increase in homosexuality. Its the same principle used by Madison Avenue to sell us Coke vs Pepsi. Our wants desires and needs are all easily manipulated. But of course some people will always prefer Coke to Pepsi no matter how much advertising they see

Its not PC to mention but many gay men were sexually abused or had some other traumatic experience as children, so its not all biological.

 

[lvysaur]

Just because women's sexual preferences are more fluid than men's doesn't mean that men's sexual preferences aren't fluid at all.

My belief is that most men actually have very little fluidity in their sexual preference, at least with regards to social indoctrination.

Remember that Sir Mix-a-lot wanted to "keep his women like Flo-Jo". Men never actually liked the attractive waif look (sexually at least, romantically is a different story, and requires more explanation).

I think that some gay men are men who have more fluidity in their sex drive, the way that women do. There's a relation between progesterone and homosexuality in both genders, and it's related to sexual interest borne out of friendship.

I also think some gay men just need a trigger into liking men, and these triggers are much more common nowadays; similar to how porn addicts just need a trigger into masturbating. This is different from the "social consensus" mode of attraction, which is more typical of women, where men who are "preapproved" by other women are automatically more attractive on that basis alone.

I personally remember being 5 and questioning to myself why I didn't find any of the boys in the class to be cute, the way that I did for some of the girls.

 

[x-ray peat]

My suspicion is that most men actually have very little fluidity in their sexual preference, at least with regards to social indoctrination.

Remember that Sir Mix-a-lot wanted to "keep his women like Flo-Jo". Men never actually liked the attractive waif look (sexually at least, romantically is a different story, and requires more explanation).

I think that some gay men are men who have more fluidity in their sex drive, the way that women do. There's a relation between progesterone and homosexuality in both genders, and it's related to sexual interest borne out of friendship.

I also think some gay men just need a trigger into liking men, and these triggers are much more common nowadays; similar to how porn addicts just need a trigger into masturbating.

Personally I remember questioning to myself back when I was 5 years old, why I didn't find any of the boys in the class to be cute.

I wouldn't underestimate the extent to which we are so easily fooled and manipulated. I think you bring up a good example with butt size. Its actually been shown that men's ideal butt size has increased significantly over the last twenty years and I would argue that this is 100% due to behavioral conditioning. Men probably didnt prefer the waif look but they certainly liked their women a lot less bubbly than today.

I found a good article speaking about sexual malleability in youth and it is even worse than i had thought.
Yes, Childhood Sexual Abuse Often Does Contribute to Homosexuality | The Stream
Comparative data of childhood and adolescence molestation in heterosexual and homosexual persons. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[lvysaur]

Its actually been shown that men's ideal butt size has increased significantly over the last twenty years and I would argue that this is 100% due to behavioral conditioning.

I think that social conditioning has very little, if anything, to do with it. I think the more likely explanation is triggers (it's just more frequent nowadays, so those with a weakness can find themselves obsessed) and various hormonal and lifestyle trends in american men and women.

Personally I've noticed that good health + lifestyle = a total lack of this craving, at least for me.

Social conditioning would be something like transpeople becoming a mainstream minority group.

Thanks for the study, I agree with you there.

 

[x-ray peat]

I think its always been a fashion choice that our betters decide for us in advance. Nobody was getting **** implants ten years ago. Telling a girl she had a fat **** was grounds for a slap, now its a pickup line.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/122061-how-americas-ideal-butt-has-changed-over-the-last-century

 

[Mufasa]

What are your timings for taking the fat solubles, and which body parts do you rub them on

Thank You

I use my underarms.
Vitamin D and K2 in different areas of the underarm in the morning.
Vitamin A and E in the same area in the evening.

Sometimes I use A and E in the morning as well, if I feel like I need that.

 

[sladerunner69]

But for many straight men, myself included, we find such acts very repulsive despite growing up in a culture friendly to homosexuality. By repulsive I do not mean we find the homosexual interactions morally wrong but rather it is just sparks a feeling of aversion. One of my closest friends is gay and very feminine so despite me being exposed to homosexual behavior if he kisses a guy in front of me that feeling of aversion still arises. So I don't think that homosexual behavior has a lot to do with culture but rather is entirely dependent upon physiology.

That could be true as well, I am simply asserting a theory I came up while reading a few articles on the lifestyle of primitive humans/homo sapiens. According to at least one well known anthropologist they used to engage in homosexuality quite often, at a higher rate than modern humans do. What explains this?

Of course, we could say that civilized man has evolved thoroughly enough to be distinct and separated from primitive man. Thus any comparisons to primitive man would be almost moot.

 

[x-ray peat]

That could be true as well, I am simply asserting a theory I came up while reading a few articles on the lifestyle of primitive humans/homo sapiens. According to at least one well known anthropologist they used to engage in homosexuality quite often, at a higher rate than modern humans do. What explains this?

How could anyone know that one way or another? Sounds like agenda driven anthropological BS ala Gregory Bateson who weaponized the field.

 

[steel_reserve]

From a therapeutic standpoint Joseph Nicolosi treated his patients through exploring their failure to break the mother bond and form a father bond.

 

[Constatine]

That could be true as well, I am simply asserting a theory I came up while reading a few articles on the lifestyle of primitive humans/homo sapiens. According to at least one well known anthropologist they used to engage in homosexuality quite often, at a higher rate than modern humans do. What explains this?

Of course, we could say that civilized man has evolved thoroughly enough to be distinct and separated from primitive man. Thus any comparisons to primitive man would be almost moot.

I would say the civilizations that engaged in homosexuality where influenced by environmental and hereditary factors just like the modern man. Altered hormonal profile of the mother seems to be important: Prenatal Exposure to Progesterone Affects Sexual Orientation in Humans . Periods of famine and stress results in more feminine male offspring but not necessarily homosexual. I'm sure culture influences those who teeter on the balance but probably not those exposed to certain hormonal ratios in the womb. I think its worth mentioning that the brain can masculinize and feminize during development and even adulthood but to what extent idk.

 

[Amazoniac]

vitamin D: 20000 UI (health natura)
vitamin A: 75000 UI (health natura)
vitamin E: 40 IU (tocovit from idealabs)
vitamin K2: 10 mg (idealabs)

I have prepared for you a guide for adjusting the dosages. If you catch yourself..
- eating a barbecued mammoth leg without cutlery while wearing a horned helmet: decrease de dose
- attracted to your girlfriend: keep the dose
- wearing a T-shirt with rolled up sleeves: watch out
- saving pictures of naked men in your computer: up the dose a bit
- listening to Coldplay: buy their entire stock and use as soon as possible

And it seems that they indeed protect each other from toxicity.

 

[energyandstruct]

"Seriously, no jokes, never been with a girl, never wanted it, always prefered guys. But it changed since 2 months or something. I think it is lowering estrogen, higher T and DHT.

It costed me a fortune on haiduts supplements though."


lmao this is why people get put off peat's work
this forum is batshit crazy...
which is of course not a reflection on peat's work, or haidut's supplements which i believe both are valuable


but just lmao