Semen Retention is a Powerful Metabolic Enhancer

[Explorer]

For single guys, this is crucial for practicing delayed gratification. It’s so easy to default to pornography/masturbation instead of improving oneself to become desirable to women. But retention is damn near impossible if your hormonal balance is way off. I’m still working on that myself.

Are you saying bad hormonal balance actually gives more urges/horniness rather than good hormonal balance making you hornier?

Ray Peat says that Estrogen gives compulsive libido but at same time also when I am in rested well slept high calorie heavy exercise trained relaxed androgenic adaptogenic aphrosiac herb supplemented states I also get sort of boost in libido and general desire and sexual energy so it can go both ways I guess

 

[RenaissanceMan]

Are you saying bad hormonal balance actually gives more urges/horniness rather than good hormonal balance making you hornier?

Ray Peat says that Estrogen gives compulsive libido but at same time also when I am in rested well slept high calorie heavy exercise trained relaxed androgenic adaptogenic aphrosiac herb supplemented states I also get sort of boost in libido and general desire and sexual energy so it can go both ways I guess

From what I can tell there's a stress-driven, uncontrollable horniness/libido driven by estrogen and cortisol like Peat says and a libido driven by DHT/T + low cortisol that is easy to control but also way more satisfying, reliable, etc. if you decide to have sex or just transmute that energy into work

 

[Summer]

From what I can tell there's a stress-driven, uncontrollable horniness/libido driven by estrogen and cortisol like Peat says and a libido driven by DHT/T + low cortisol that is easy to control but also way more satisfying, reliable, etc. if you decide to have sex or just transmute that energy into work

Yes this exactly.

 

[TheSir]

Rediscovering abstinence seems to be kind of a generational experience for millennials (and late X/early Z), as they were the first generation raised on the notion that ejaculatory frequency should positively correlate with wellbeing. In the online popularity of semen retention we're seeing what could be called a return to common sense in regard to managing one's sexuality, a re-emergence of ageless wisdom that all cultures have intuitively known at some point.

 

[ecstatichamster]

avoiding porn and fantasy and practicing, having a partner you can spend time with naked, all helps a great deal.

 

[RenaissanceMan]

avoiding porn and fantasy and practicing, having a partner you can spend time with naked, all helps a great deal.

Yeah even if you're against semen retention, nofap, etc. Porn is something everyone should recognize the detriments of for both the viewer and performers and completely avoid. NoPorn should be universal, those pixels on your screen will mess with your neurochemistry if you consume it

 

[AndrogenicJB]

For single guys, this is crucial for practicing delayed gratification. It’s so easy to default to pornography/masturbation instead of improving oneself to become desirable to women. But retention is damn near impossible if your hormonal balance is way off. I’m still working on that myself.

Not true it can be done

 

[ecstatichamster]

Yeah even if you're against semen retention, nofap, etc. Porn is something everyone should recognize the detriments of for both the viewer and performers and completely avoid. NoPorn should be universal, those pixels on your screen will mess with your neurochemistry if you consume it

i practice this, I'm for it. I'm just reasonable about it. I believe sex, including solo sex, should be enjoyable. Some people may be fine with porn because they have nothing else going for themselves. Everyone is different. I don't believe anyone should practice semen retention for months.

 

[Summer]

Not true it can be done

It’s a silly thing to do if your hormones are off. Frequent ejaculation isn’t the reason anyone is estrogen-dominant or low T.

 

[WanderingTaoist]

In ayurveda, sexual energy builds Ojas.
In TCM, it builds Jing.

I suspect it does more than just the physiology of reabsorbed semen, in other planes of energy (like permanently increased luck, aura, ...).
You can make babies with that energy, what happens if you don't let it out ? Very interesting topic.

There are techniques to circulate the semen upwards to increase your conscioussness and life energy.

Testicle Breathing - Why You Should Breathe With Your Balls

Testicle breathing video instructions. The testicle breathing exercise transforms raw sexual energy into spiritual energy and activates the pineal gland.

tantricacademy.com

Have you tried this ?

Supposedly nourishes the nervous system with your own semen.

 

[RenaissanceMan]

In ayurveda, sexual energy builds Ojas.
In TCM, it builds Jing.

I suspect it does more than just the physiology of reabsorbed semen, in other planes of energy (like permanently increased luck, aura, ...).
You can make babies with that energy, what happens if you don't let it out ? Very interesting topic.

There are techniques to circulate the semen upwards to increase your conscioussness and life energy.

Testicle Breathing - Why You Should Breathe With Your Balls

Testicle breathing video instructions. The testicle breathing exercise transforms raw sexual energy into spiritual energy and activates the pineal gland.

tantricacademy.com

Have you tried this ?

Supposedly nourishes the nervous system with your own semen.

Very interesting indeed — no I haven't tried that yet

I'm familiar with the term Ojas, it's a form of vital energy that when built up, contributes to enhanced cerebral capacity i.e. an extremely sharp memory, verbal/written communication skills, concentration, etc.

It goes back to the chakra system established in the East: When sexual energy can rise from your base chakra via your spine into your brain, semen/cerebrospinal fluid can increase BDNF, dopamine, activate androgen receptors in the brain, etc. — basically everything required for an amazing level of intelligence, drive, wisdom, and confidence

Ojas is supposedly responsible for the Genius of Leonardo da Vinci, Isaac Newton, Beethoven, Nikola Tesla, Steve Jobs, and others -- who were well known to practice some form of sexual discipline, ranging from complete celibacy to semen retention during intercourse

 

[TheSir]

In ayurveda, sexual energy builds Ojas.
In TCM, it builds Jing.

I suspect it does more than just the physiology of reabsorbed semen, in other planes of energy (like permanently increased luck, aura, ...).
You can make babies with that energy, what happens if you don't let it out ? Very interesting topic.

There are techniques to circulate the semen upwards to increase your conscioussness and life energy.

Testicle Breathing - Why You Should Breathe With Your Balls

Testicle breathing video instructions. The testicle breathing exercise transforms raw sexual energy into spiritual energy and activates the pineal gland.

tantricacademy.com

Have you tried this ?

Supposedly nourishes the nervous system with your own semen.

Have you tried this?

 

[TheSir]

When sexual energy can rise from your base chakra via your spine into your brain, semen/cerebrospinal fluid can increase BDNF, dopamine, activate androgen receptors in the brain, etc. — basically everything required for an amazing level of intelligence, drive, wisdom, and confidence

This is more or less true from hormonal perspective too:

 

[Dr. B]

Yeah even if you're against semen retention, nofap, etc. Porn is something everyone should recognize the detriments of for both the viewer and performers and completely avoid. NoPorn should be universal, those pixels on your screen will mess with your neurochemistry if you consume it

how is this the case? I used to do semen retention/no fap for months on end. sometimes 3 months, 4 months, 6 or 7 months at a time. I could look at women on instagram, women on the street, porn online etc and have minimal issue. it was the actual physical act and release of the fluid that caused the negative effects and would cause some level of fatigue and energy loss. the simple viewing of naked women or porn didn't really cause any noticeable effects besides some excitement and attraction.
theres some who think only fapping is a problem, some who think porn is the problem and not fapping or sex, and then semen retention is much broader and is about avoiding all forms of release. only semen retention has actual measurable physical improvements in energy, possibly appearance, etc. simply stopping porn, or switching from masturbation to sex won't do much to change you physically. the old school athletes, boxers, greek athletes etc did semen retention not just nofap... and some of these cultures showed a lot of skin etc. there should be a general avoidance in that you shouldn't be spending all day or hours a day watching porn or nude women because the time should be put to better usage. but the actual physical benefits come from the semen retention aspect.

also on the nofap forums some of the dudes have things like 350 day streaks but they are actually sleeping and ejaculating with a partner every day or every few days. that may be better than fapping but if one guy did a year of nofap via semen retention and the other did nofap but still sleeps with partners those are two totally different things, with totally different benefits attained, and totally different degrees of difficulty. the more you ejaculate the easier it is to abstain from ejaculating further hence nofap is obviously much easier if you're sleeping with a partner everyday, or using a fleshlight or intentionally causing wetdreams vs. doing semen retention. Moreover, if nofap just literally means not fapping on your own, and sex is still allowed on nofap, then where do you put things like sex with robots, fleshlights, or just touch free methods or using water pressure or stimulating wetdreams or something? do you still maintain your streak with those whilst on nofap? it's a bit of a grey area but regardless nofap shouldn't be difficult at all if you have a willing partner. many people fapping would likely be willing to do it with a partner.

 

[AndrogenicJB]

It’s a silly thing to do if your hormones are off. Frequent ejaculation isn’t the reason anyone is estrogen-dominant or low T.

My hormonal system is on point, deep voice, square jaw and cheekbones, I have all the high T/DHT traits, and have been on semen retention for nearly 2 years now, I am 17 aswell

 

[AndrogenicJB]

My experience on semen retention, still on it, gives me this idea that it signals to the body that it needs to become more physically attractive to mates and so it drastically improves physical appearance the longer you are on it

 

[RenaissanceMan]

This is more or less true from hormonal perspective too:

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Fascinating stuff.

 

[Dr. B]

This is more or less true from hormonal perspective too:

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interesting mate whered you get this chart

My hormonal system is on point, deep voice, square jaw and cheekbones, I have all the high T/DHT traits, and have been on semen retention for nearly 2 years now, I am 17 aswell

did you develop those traits over the 2 years?
semen retention seems to have benefits for energy at least, but i think the effects are mild, the drastic things are still diet, avoiding vaccines, pufa, fluoride, xrays, pharmaceuticals, etc

Fascinating stuff.

im not sure if i should make a thread for this but was curious if people have noticed measurable benefits from other health changes, like giving up fluoride or vaccines or xrays or antibiotics/pharma drugs for a period of time?
the problem with all this is anytime youre making these changes if youre making other health changes its hard to measure which change allowed for what effect
ive currently been vaccine free around 10 years, xray free around 2.5 years (prior to that would get a damn yearly dental xray like every year, probably for 10 years and that stuff literally targets your thyroid gland its right there getting xrayed), tap/fluoridated water free for around 1.5 years...

switching from tap to bottled kirkland water seemed to quickly improve my skin quality on the back and face and all around...
with vaccines its been so long its hard to measure the overall effect...
same with xrays

im curious if people have tracked how long theyve been free of these things, alongside maybe something like pufa and anti depressants, and noted the benefits and how things improve the longer you stay away from these things

 

[Beastmode]

When you realize how focused you were on ejaculating and break that cycle, you're going to feel a lot better from just that. If you're having meaningful sex with a partner, you will feel just as healthy,vital, etc.

I've gone up to 48 days and quite a few 30+ day periods with ejaculating.

 

[Summer]

My hormonal system is on point, deep voice, square jaw and cheekbones, I have all the high T/DHT traits, and have been on semen retention for nearly 2 years now, I am 17 aswell

Good on you for starting on that early. My point is that someone who feels constant urges due to estrogen dominance should sort their hormone issues out before starting retention.