"It is much more important to know what sort of a patient has a disease than what sort of a disease a patient has".

[Elderflower j58]

‘Literature about medicine may be all that can save us’

A new generation of doctor writers is investigating the mysteries of the medical profession, exploring the vital intersection between science and art

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Very interesting and articulate article

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

This was a very good article Elderflower. The medical system has focused so much on the seed itself and paid no mind to the ground that it is growing in, then hands out “Round-up” for the weeds (cancer) and “Miracle Grow” for a quick profitable solution. I love the quote, because it is so true, “Sin is immediate gratification with long term consequences.” There are no shortcuts to good health, you gotta put in the work to get the rewards….

“After a long period when we focused primarily on depth of knowledge, we have returned to the importance of breadth of knowledge. In telling the stories of illness, we need to tell the stories of the lives within which illness is embedded.“

“Chemicals like Miracle-Gro urea-based fertilizer have since been found to kill soil microbes and cause loads of other problems in the environment and human health.”

Can Miracle-Gro Be Used in Organic Gardens? Is it Safe and Effective?

Are you thinking of using Miracle-Gro in your organic gardening space? Find out if it's both safe and effective to use in organic gardens.

www.allaboutgardening.com

 

[Elderflower j58]

Fully agree about the roundup... monsantos poster Chemical,

My sister used roundup liberally in her garden to the detriment of 2 of her pets in my opinion,1 Both dead at 5 and 6 years old.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Fully agree about the roundup... monsantos poster Chemical,

My sister used roundup liberally in her garden to the detriment of 2 of her pets in my opinion,1 Both dead at 5 and 6 years old.

That is so sad. How in the world is she eating the food without a problem? People just don’t think past the promises of a quick fix. Those who don’t question anything are the ones getting the shock of their lives, trying to undo it all or find a themselves in a “game over” realization, my husband being one of them. Medicine is handed and embraced like it is suppose to give them good health. Nobody reads the inserts with the long list of risks and then they wonder why Ray Peat’s advice isn’t working. The advice must be the problem, and not toxic pills and supplements they take. Don’t get me started on misdiagnoses and medical errors, and plain negligence and darker things, like the incentives for getting people to do things they should not be signing up for…


“Recent studies of medical errors have estimated errors may account for as many as 251,000 deaths annually in the United States (U.S)., making medical errors the third leading cause of death. Error rates are significantly higher in the U.S. than in other developed countries such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany and the United Kingdom (U.K). At the same time less than 10 percent of medical errors are reported.”

Your Health Care May Kill You: Medical Errors - PubMed

Recent studies of medical errors have estimated errors may account for as many as 251,000 deaths annually in the United States (U.S)., making medical errors the third leading cause of death. Error rates are significantly higher in the U.S. than in other developed countries such as Canada...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Peatress]

This is a good read thanks.

Post 2020 I think the sort of patient that has disease is one that goes to see a doctor. Most people would be healthy if they never visited a doctor.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

This is a good read thanks.

Post 2020 I think the sort of patient that has disease is one that goes to see a doctor. Most people would be healthy if they never visited a doctor.

I agree here. They don’t call it their “practice” for nothing. Doctors should be a last resort, not a first resort. I don’t think doctors in general are trying to be a disservice, they just have so many obstacles and hoops to jump through, and are tired trying to make a living the right way, that they just lose sight of what they became a doctor for. Unfortunately I think more people, than not, become doctors nowadays because of money and prestige, rather than to help human kind. Good luck figuring out which is which.

 

[Elderflower j58]

@Rinse & rePeat

Oh no I should have Said my sister did not grow anything edible in her garden,
she just used the roundup for weeds .
Her 2 dogs loved the garden.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

@Rinse & rePeat

Oh no I should have Said my sister did not grow anything edible in her garden,
she just used the roundup for weeds .
Her 2 dogs loved the garden.

Ohhh! Those poor puppies! Was it cancer that they died of?

 

[Elderflower j58]

It would seem to make sense that doctors start off with youthful emotion and then graduate to a self-protective distancing, but in his award-winning The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer, New York-based oncologist Mukherjee likewise speaks of being propelled willy-nilly into humanism: “I had never expected medicine to be such a lawless, uncertain world. I wondered if the compulsive naming of parts, diseases and chemical reactions – frenulum, otitis, glycolysis – was a mechanism invented by doctors to defend themselves against a largely unknowable sphere of knowledge.” Writing is a means to fight back against that defence. A doctor needs defences – but not too many. “It is an old complaint about the practice of medicine that it inures you to the idea of death,” Mukherjee writes. “But when medicine inures you to the idea of life, to survival, then it has failed utterly.” And elsewhere he observes: “Good physicians are rarely dispassionate. They agonise and self-doubt over patients.” He adds: “An efficient, thrumming, technically accomplished laboratory is like a robot orchestra that produces perfectly pitched tunes but no music.” Mukherjee chronicles his gradual revelation that while benevolence without discipline is an ineffective cure, precision without empathy is tone-deaf; his books,

The above segment from the article Is heartbreakingly true.
Possibly in the future if more doctors were of this mindset .. Humility , Possibly some integrity Things could change for the betterment of the people
We can all but hope

 

[Elderflower j58]

@Rinse & rePeat
Yes both had hemangiosarcoma.
I also think dog vaccines played their part and possibly their diet which half was KIBBLE....
All of the poisons we are exposed to....

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

It would seem to make sense that doctors start off with youthful emotion and then graduate to a self-protective distancing, but in his award-winning The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer, New York-based oncologist Mukherjee likewise speaks of being propelled willy-nilly into humanism: “I had never expected medicine to be such a lawless, uncertain world. I wondered if the compulsive naming of parts, diseases and chemical reactions – frenulum, otitis, glycolysis – was a mechanism invented by doctors to defend themselves against a largely unknowable sphere of knowledge.” Writing is a means to fight back against that defence. A doctor needs defences – but not too many. “It is an old complaint about the practice of medicine that it inures you to the idea of death,” Mukherjee writes. “But when medicine inures you to the idea of life, to survival, then it has failed utterly.” And elsewhere he observes: “Good physicians are rarely dispassionate. They agonise and self-doubt over patients.” He adds: “An efficient, thrumming, technically accomplished laboratory is like a robot orchestra that produces perfectly pitched tunes but no music.” Mukherjee chronicles his gradual revelation that while benevolence without discipline is an ineffective cure, precision without empathy is tone-deaf; his books,

The above segment from the article Is heartbreakingly true.
Possibly in the future if more doctors were of this mindset .. Humility , Possibly some integrity Things could change for the betterment of the people
We can all but hope

You have articulated so well here, what has gone horribly astray, the artful side of medicine.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

“If every year more people are treated for cancer, and every year more people die of cancer, one simply wonders whether fewer people would die if few were treated.

If the first rule of medicine is to do no harm, then the second rule, growing out of the first, would have to be to give no treatment without knowing what is being treated, and to have a valid basis for believing that the damage done by the treatment is not worse than the damage that the disease would cause. If cancer specialists haven’t demonstrated that their treatments improve their patients’ situation, then their professional activities aren’t justified; the statistics suggest that they aren’t.“ -Ray Peat