I want to be nutritionist : where to start ?

[French.cat]

Hello everyone

I am in a pretty bad shape because of lifelong depression ADHD and eating disorders during 15 years.

I am always depressed but in spite of that I think I’ve FINALLY (31 YO) found my purpose in life which is help people with good nutrition
(starting with myself).

Unfortunately, I don’t find any good school of nutrition
I am currently learning a lot through books and studies but I would love to begin a true career and be a registered dietician.

Where to start ?

Thanks !!

A French cat

 

[TheSir]

The most important first step would be to become an example of great health yourself. Until that point is reached, it is too early to worry about how you're going to improve the health of others. Though, it's not like being sick would prevent you from sharing factual information and pointing to useful treatments. It just might make it hard to attract customers.

 

[French.cat]

The most important first step would be to become an example of great health yourself. Until that point is reached, it is too early to worry about how you're going to improve the health of others. Though, it's not like being sick would prevent you from sharing factual information and pointing to useful treatments. It just might make it hard to attract customers.

Yes I know but I'm already 31 years old and I don't know what to do to fix my health. I tried several supplements but I react really strong to some (pregnelonone especially). I was searching for help but I can't afford Kate Deering of Cheryl Leigh Frost's coaching, it's way too expansive (I'm a bit pissed about that...).

If I want to heal my health it's like I have no choice but being helped by specialists 'cause there is too much work to do with me, too much symptoms. And they ALL are unaffordable!

 

[TheSir]

Yes I know but I'm already 31 years old and I don't know what to do to fix my health. I tried several supplements but I react really strong to some (pregnelonone especially). I was searching for help but I can't afford Kate Deering of Cheryl Leigh Frost's coaching, it's way too expansive (I'm a bit pissed about that...).

If I want to heal my health it's like I have no choice but being helped by specialists 'cause there is too much work to do with me, too much symptoms. And they ALL are unaffordable!

Forgive me for being blunt, but if you don't know how to heal yourself, will you know how to heal anyone else either? The people who come to nutritionists are usually sick in a complicated way just like you are. It's rarely something a few supplements will fix

Schools will only teach you basic knowledge. Things which you probably already know and have found useless. Schools will not turn you into a skilled healer out of nowhere. That requires years of study and practice. Fortunately, lot of this study you can do independently while fixing your own health. Once you have conquered your own disease, you will for sure have gathered enough experience to actually help others. This way you don't risk burning yourself out further by trying to keep up with your school studies while simultaneously dealing with the stress of your illness.

Not that I don't get your sense of urgency. I'm 30 with no education or job too.

 

[LLight]

You can start here (and it's quite affordable ): Water Structure, Osmolytes And Cancer

Ps: starting by the end is more interesting.

 

[-Luke-]

Not sure an official training matters much nowadays. If you would study ecotrophology for example you would have to study for 3+ years, only for some diploma on the wall, because you'd have to forget everything they teach anyway.

I suppose it would be a better idea to become an autodidact, teach yourself whatever you need. Everybody can start a coaching business nowadays. I don't think Danny Roddy has any official training or diploma or license, but he coaches people. Of course, he's well-known in the "peatosphere", but that circle is also pretty tiny.

 

[LucH]

Hi,
I'd try to understand fat categories. => Fats for dummies. But here is not the right place. PUFA coming from oils are banned. I agree most of the time (highlines) but too strict for beginners.
Need to understand the why and the how if you want to understand hormones afterwards.
You'll have to make up your own opinion: trying to adapt to circumstances.

 

[Veritas IV]

Hello everyone

I am in a pretty bad shape because of lifelong depression ADHD and eating disorders during 15 years.

I am always depressed but in spite of that I think I’ve FINALLY (31 YO) found my purpose in life which is help people with good nutrition
(starting with myself).

Unfortunately, I don’t find any good school of nutrition
I am currently learning a lot through books and studies but I would love to begin a true career and be a registered dietician.

Where to start ?

Thanks !!

A French cat

Hello,

Not sure where you are located, but if it's in the US then your answer will vary from state to state. I know that in some states certain 4 year college degrees are required. Then you'd have to apply and be accepted into a nutrition & dietetics program which is an additional year of school. You would be certified upon completion.

The easiest way to find the requirements for your state would be to research it online.

Good luck either way.

 

[naevastar]

Hello everyone

I am in a pretty bad shape because of lifelong depression ADHD and eating disorders during 15 years.

I am always depressed but in spite of that I think I’ve FINALLY (31 YO) found my purpose in life which is help people with good nutrition
(starting with myself).

Unfortunately, I don’t find any good school of nutrition
I am currently learning a lot through books and studies but I would love to begin a true career and be a registered dietician.

Where to start ?

Thanks !!

A French cat

Hey :)
I am a dietitian and have been "peating" for close to 9 years now.
I did my undergraduate degree in Australia and now I am doing an additional masters degree in Norway cos here I will not be able to work as a dietitian without it.
Firstly, do not let age stop you from doing anything.
I am 33 and have two young children and I am still able to be a student (I am a better student now compared to ten years ago).

I am aware that a University degree does not mean intelligence, it simply just mean you are able to be organized enough to pass exams and write the answers University considers correct. However, when it comes to health and providing nutrition advice which is a very hot field where everyone has their own opinions and usually do not listen to you unless it is coming from a doctor (even then they might disagree with you) I do think it is beneficial to have a degree to show credentials to the public that you know what you are talking about. It also gives you access to search journal articles etc.
And at most universities the nutrition degree overlaps closely with the medical degree, it is a good way to learn about physiology and anatomy, while having Dr. Peat and his research as a background.

I would start by reading articles by Dr. Peat himself on his website.
Listen to podcasts.
Purchase his books.
And if you cannot afford Kate Deerings consultations, you could buy her book?

Try get a good understanding topic by topic, for example proteins, fats, carbohydrates before learning other relevant topics.

 

[chrstn4o]

Get the book Advanced Nutrition and Human Metabolism, I think the 6th edition is easily find-able to download for free on the interwebz If it doesn't put you to sleep, maybe you can do this, and you will learn a lot about how to help yourself!

 

[Badger]

Get the book Advanced Nutrition and Human Metabolism, I think the 6th edition is easily find-able to download for free on the interwebz If it doesn't put you to sleep, maybe you can do this, and you will learn a lot about how to help yourself!

The latest edition is eighth.

 

[youngsinatra]

Get the book Advanced Nutrition and Human Metabolism, I think the 6th edition is easily find-able to download for free on the interwebz If it doesn't put you to sleep, maybe you can do this, and you will learn a lot about how to help yourself!

Can you send it per DM?

Or do you know a good serious site to get books?

 

[chrstn4o]

Can you send it per DM?

Or do you know a good serious site to get books?

I literally typed in the title to the book and .PDF and it came up in the first few results. If you can't find let me know

 

[chrstn4o]

The latest edition is eighth.

Yes but it costs 109 euro.........

 

[French.cat]

Hey :)
I am a dietitian and have been "peating" for close to 9 years now.
I did my undergraduate degree in Australia and now I am doing an additional masters degree in Norway cos here I will not be able to work as a dietitian without it.
Firstly, do not let age stop you from doing anything.
I am 33 and have two young children and I am still able to be a student (I am a better student now compared to ten years ago).

I am aware that a University degree does not mean intelligence, it simply just mean you are able to be organized enough to pass exams and write the answers University considers correct. However, when it comes to health and providing nutrition advice which is a very hot field where everyone has their own opinions and usually do not listen to you unless it is coming from a doctor (even then they might disagree with you) I do think it is beneficial to have a degree to show credentials to the public that you know what you are talking about. It also gives you access to search journal articles etc.
And at most universities the nutrition degree overlaps closely with the medical degree, it is a good way to learn about physiology and anatomy, while having Dr. Peat and his research as a background.

I would start by reading articles by Dr. Peat himself on his website.
Listen to podcasts.
Purchase his books.
And if you cannot afford Kate Deerings consultations, you could buy her book?

Try get a good understanding topic by topic, for example proteins, fats, carbohydrates before learning other relevant topics.

Hi and thanks for your reply.

Actually what is keeping me away from learning is high stress level I guess...

Every time I try to educate myself or write some article on my neutron blog, I find it really heard to concentrate because of neck pain.

EVERYTIME I am ready to work, my neck gets almost blocked... I think it's cortisol and adrenals related... what do you think ? I will make a new thread about it.

 

[naevastar]

Hi and thanks for your reply.

Actually what is keeping me away from learning is high stress level I guess...

Every time I try to educate myself or write some article on my neutron blog, I find it really heard to concentrate because of neck pain.

EVERYTIME I am ready to work, my neck gets almost blocked... I think it's cortisol and adrenals related... what do you think ? I will make a new thread about it.

Sorry to hear about your neck.
Is it from an injury or did it appear on its own?

 

[Badger]

Hi and thanks for your reply.

Actually what is keeping me away from learning is high stress level I guess...

Every time I try to educate myself or write some article on my neutron blog, I find it really heard to concentrate because of neck pain.

EVERYTIME I am ready to work, my neck gets almost blocked... I think it's cortisol and adrenals related... what do you think ? I will make a new thread about it.

I would highly recommend you go to an ABC practitioner (Advanced Biostrutctural Correction). Overlaps with chiropractic but far superior to it, IMO, based on the months of ABC therapy for my spinal stemosis and neck problems similar to yours. It's certain to be helpful with your neck. Unlike chiropractic, it focuses on loosening meningeal tissues all around your body to free you from pain.

Here's links to get up to speed on it:

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[Michael Mohn]

Read all of Ray Peat's article, look up all terms you don't understand in his articles on wiki and PubMed or research gate, again look up all terms you don't understand there. Make notes!
Listen to all interviews with Ray Peat.

Read the forum, follow people and their problems and what experiences and improvements they make. Read books recommended by other here.
Try helping people for free on other forums.

Self study is the way to begin and you might end with a diploma and a coaching business.

But if you can't improve your own condition how will you find confidence to help others? Without any health how will you be able to learn, study, work?

With half knowledge and half wisdom you can cause more harm than good.

 

[French.cat]

Sorry to hear about your neck.
Is it from an injury or did it appear on its own?

I comes from childhood
It is in my opinion Gut and stress related

Keto completely cured my issues but it is hard to stick to it. And I was not able to get a refreshing sleep on this diet.

When I remember my Keto journey it hurts because I felt so perfect in my head and body.

 

[LLight]

Dehydration therapy:

"This degree of fluid limitation is followed by some discomfort on the part of the patient for the first ten days, but in all cases where this initial period has been accomplished, they have maintained the restriction of fluids without difficulty and with no ill effects. It must be born in mind that: unless absolute fluid regulation is maintained, little or no results can be expected.​

During the first few days of fluid limitation at this low level it is interesting to note the high output of urine in contrast to the intake. The accumulation of body fluids in excess, from former free intake of fluids, persists for about six days. Following this, there may be a drop in volume of urine passed to below the intake level; again a sharp rise above the intake point with fluctuation for several weeks may occur."​

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"It is of interest to note that there has never been any pathological urinary findings due to dehydration except, of course, high specific gravity."​

"Bauer pointed out that of 25 infants, maintained on a ketogenic diet, he had obtained symptomatic relief on approximatively 35%. When these same infants were placed on fluid limitation and dehydration for one year, he was able to establish 100% symptomatic relief in his group."​

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"In a later report, he mentions that he had observed 86-88 cases, with similar results."​

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"We believe that the effectiveness of fasting and the ketogenic diet is due not so much to the presence of ketosis per se as to the associated dehydrating effect."​