There would seem, to me, to be a general and pervasive misinterpretation
of Dr. Peat’s oft-recited quotes about context.
And I would add, too, that reciting this common kind of misinterpretation
is also very Popular:
that is to say, many enjoy reciting it.
I suspect this happens, in many cases, because it confers upon the speaker
a pleasurable illusion of moral and intellectual superiority and of general specialness
(and I surely do NOT include knowledgeable and humble Ray-Z amongst that group! ).
Here is one example of such frequently circulated Peat quotes:
...and another...
Some posters cite such Peat quotes as evidence that:
-every individual can define a Peat diet as he/she wishes.
-there is no Peat diet.
-no generalizations about a Peat diet should be permitted;
indeed, they are dangerous to circulate or draw conclusions from.
-anybody who uses generalizations about a Peat diet
to try to describe a Peat diet is actually, if scratched beneath the surface,
an evil, Nazi-like, filthy, lousy, dimwitted, dunderheaded Authoritarian
with some kind of power play as a hidden motivation.
-generalizations about Peat’s diet, when not accompanied
by each individual’s specifics,are useless and meaningless.
-Peat is an Artist, and to make generalization about his diet
is as clueless as wanting Jackson Pollock
to center in each painting a house and human figure and dog.
But, what then to make of Peat’s own, numerous generalizations
without an individual, specific context?
Why would Peat make such general statements if he considered them meaningless?
Was Peat, himself, actually a fascistic, power-hungry Authoritarian?
Let’s review a few of his far-flung general statements about diet--
not accompanied by specific, individual context:
Peat Generalizing about Diet
1. “There isn't anything wrong with a high carbohydrate diet, and even a high starch diet isn't necessarily incompatible with good health, but when better foods are available they should be used instead of starches.”-Ray Peat, “Glycemia, starch, and sugar in context”
2. A daily intake of 100 grams of gelatin wouldn't seem unreasonable, and some people find that quantities in that range help to decrease fatigue. For a growing child, though, such a large amount of refined gelatin would tend to displace other important foods. The National Academy of Sciences recently reviewed the requirements for working adults (male and female soldiers, in particular), and suggested that 100 grams of balanced protein was needed for efficient work. For adults, a large part of that could be in the form of gelatin. –Ray Peat, “Gelatin, stress, longevity”
3. “I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption. In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements.”-Ray Peat, “Diabetes, scleroderma, oils and hormones”
4. “It's better to take your protein during the day, sugar and fat in the evening. The powdered protein lacks most of the nutrients, so you probably need some fruit, eggs, and liver, for the other nutrients, including potassium and magnesium. .”-Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011...ding-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
5. “Milk, cheese, and fruits provide a very good balance of nutrients. Fruits provide a significant amount of protein. Plain sugar is o.k. when the other nutrients are adequate. Roots, shoots, and tubers are, next to the fruits, a good carbohydrate source; potatoes are a source of good protein. Meat as the main protein can provide too much phosphorus in relation to calcium."-Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
6. “Sugar helps the liver to make cholesterol, switching from starchy vegetables to sweet fruits will usually bring cholesterol levels up to normal. If the fat is mostly saturated, from milk, cheese, butter, beef, lamb or coconut oil, I think it's usually o.k. to get about 50% of the calories from fat, but since those natural fats typically contain around 2% polyunsaturated fats, I try to minimize my PUFA intake by having more fruit, and a little less fat, maybe 30 to 35%.”-Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
7. “People can do well on high or low fat or carbohydrate, but when the carbohydrate is very low, some of the protein will be wasted as fuel, replacing the missing glucose.”-Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
8. “A daily diet that includes two quarts of milk and a quart of orange juice provides enough fructose and other sugars for general resistance to stress, but larger amounts of fruit juice, honey, or other sugars can protect against increased stress, and can reverse some of the established degenerative conditions..”-Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
9. Muscle meats (including the muscles of poultry and fish) contain large amounts of the amino acids that suppress the thyroid, and shouldn't be the only source of protein. It's a good idea to have a quart of milk (about 32 grams of protein) every day, besides a variety of other high quality proteins, including cheeses, eggs, shellfish, and potatoes. -Peat from http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/ray-peat.html
10. "Per calorie, sugar is less fattening than starch, partly because it stimulates less insulin, and, when it's used with a good diet, because it increases the activity of thyroid hormone.."-Ray Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
11. "Starch and glucose efficiently stimulate insulin secretion, and that accelerates the disposition of glucose, activating its conversion to glycogen and fat, as well as its oxidation. Fructose inhibits the stimulation of insulin by glucose, so this means that eating ordinary sugar, sucrose (a disaccharide, consisting of glucose and fructose), in place of starch, will reduce the tendency to store fat."-Ray Peat, “Glycemia, starch, and sugar in context”
12. “The starch-based diet, emphasizing grains, beans, nuts, and vegetables, has been promoted with a variety of justifications. When people are urged to reduce their fat and sugar consumption, they are told to eat more starch. Starch stimulates the appetite, promotes fat synthesis by stimulating insulin secretion, and sometimes increases the growth of bacteria that produce toxins..... Various studies have demonstrated that starch (composed of pure glucose) raises blood glucose more quickly than sucrose (half fructose, half glucose) does.”-Ray Peat from"Diabetes, Scleroderma, Oils and Hormones,"
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/diabetes.shtml
13. "Protein deficiency creates an inflammatory state, and since stress causes tissue proteins to be destroyed and converted into sugars and fats, it's common to underestimate the amount of protein needed. One of the functions of sucrose in the diet is to reduce the production of cortisol, and so to spare protein."-from Peat newsletter "Inflammation, endotoxin, estrogen, and other problems"
14. "Any carbohydrate...that is not sugar can potentially feed bacteria [in the intestines] that produce toxins and cause systemic stress."
-Dr. Ray Peat from "Glycemia, Starch and SUGAR in Context!"
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/eastwe...ray-peat-glycemia-starch-and-sugar-in-context
(Go to approximately the 29 minute mark of the interview.)
These are just a few off the top of my head.
Discuss amongst yourselves and report back!
of Dr. Peat’s oft-recited quotes about context.
And I would add, too, that reciting this common kind of misinterpretation
is also very Popular:
that is to say, many enjoy reciting it.
I suspect this happens, in many cases, because it confers upon the speaker
a pleasurable illusion of moral and intellectual superiority and of general specialness
(and I surely do NOT include knowledgeable and humble Ray-Z amongst that group! ).
Here is one example of such frequently circulated Peat quotes:
“No topic can be understood in isolation.”
--Dr. Raymond Peat
-from "Bone Density: First Do No Harm.")
http://raypeat.com/articles/aging/bonedensity.shtml
...and another...
“Since the contextuality of communication is always in the foreground when I talk or write, you know that someone is confusing me with an authority when they talk about my ‘protocol’ for something. Context is everything, and it’s individual and empirical.”
--Raymond Peat, PhD (I believe this is from the recent interview on
Danny R’s site)
Some posters cite such Peat quotes as evidence that:
-every individual can define a Peat diet as he/she wishes.
-there is no Peat diet.
-no generalizations about a Peat diet should be permitted;
indeed, they are dangerous to circulate or draw conclusions from.
-anybody who uses generalizations about a Peat diet
to try to describe a Peat diet is actually, if scratched beneath the surface,
an evil, Nazi-like, filthy, lousy, dimwitted, dunderheaded Authoritarian
with some kind of power play as a hidden motivation.
-generalizations about Peat’s diet, when not accompanied
by each individual’s specifics,are useless and meaningless.
-Peat is an Artist, and to make generalization about his diet
is as clueless as wanting Jackson Pollock
to center in each painting a house and human figure and dog.
But, what then to make of Peat’s own, numerous generalizations
without an individual, specific context?
Why would Peat make such general statements if he considered them meaningless?
Was Peat, himself, actually a fascistic, power-hungry Authoritarian?
Let’s review a few of his far-flung general statements about diet--
not accompanied by specific, individual context:
Peat Generalizing about Diet
1. “There isn't anything wrong with a high carbohydrate diet, and even a high starch diet isn't necessarily incompatible with good health, but when better foods are available they should be used instead of starches.”-Ray Peat, “Glycemia, starch, and sugar in context”
2. A daily intake of 100 grams of gelatin wouldn't seem unreasonable, and some people find that quantities in that range help to decrease fatigue. For a growing child, though, such a large amount of refined gelatin would tend to displace other important foods. The National Academy of Sciences recently reviewed the requirements for working adults (male and female soldiers, in particular), and suggested that 100 grams of balanced protein was needed for efficient work. For adults, a large part of that could be in the form of gelatin. –Ray Peat, “Gelatin, stress, longevity”
3. “I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption. In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements.”-Ray Peat, “Diabetes, scleroderma, oils and hormones”
4. “It's better to take your protein during the day, sugar and fat in the evening. The powdered protein lacks most of the nutrients, so you probably need some fruit, eggs, and liver, for the other nutrients, including potassium and magnesium. .”-Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011...ding-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
5. “Milk, cheese, and fruits provide a very good balance of nutrients. Fruits provide a significant amount of protein. Plain sugar is o.k. when the other nutrients are adequate. Roots, shoots, and tubers are, next to the fruits, a good carbohydrate source; potatoes are a source of good protein. Meat as the main protein can provide too much phosphorus in relation to calcium."-Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
6. “Sugar helps the liver to make cholesterol, switching from starchy vegetables to sweet fruits will usually bring cholesterol levels up to normal. If the fat is mostly saturated, from milk, cheese, butter, beef, lamb or coconut oil, I think it's usually o.k. to get about 50% of the calories from fat, but since those natural fats typically contain around 2% polyunsaturated fats, I try to minimize my PUFA intake by having more fruit, and a little less fat, maybe 30 to 35%.”-Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
7. “People can do well on high or low fat or carbohydrate, but when the carbohydrate is very low, some of the protein will be wasted as fuel, replacing the missing glucose.”-Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
8. “A daily diet that includes two quarts of milk and a quart of orange juice provides enough fructose and other sugars for general resistance to stress, but larger amounts of fruit juice, honey, or other sugars can protect against increased stress, and can reverse some of the established degenerative conditions..”-Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
9. Muscle meats (including the muscles of poultry and fish) contain large amounts of the amino acids that suppress the thyroid, and shouldn't be the only source of protein. It's a good idea to have a quart of milk (about 32 grams of protein) every day, besides a variety of other high quality proteins, including cheeses, eggs, shellfish, and potatoes. -Peat from http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/ray-peat.html
10. "Per calorie, sugar is less fattening than starch, partly because it stimulates less insulin, and, when it's used with a good diet, because it increases the activity of thyroid hormone.."-Ray Peat from http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html
11. "Starch and glucose efficiently stimulate insulin secretion, and that accelerates the disposition of glucose, activating its conversion to glycogen and fat, as well as its oxidation. Fructose inhibits the stimulation of insulin by glucose, so this means that eating ordinary sugar, sucrose (a disaccharide, consisting of glucose and fructose), in place of starch, will reduce the tendency to store fat."-Ray Peat, “Glycemia, starch, and sugar in context”
12. “The starch-based diet, emphasizing grains, beans, nuts, and vegetables, has been promoted with a variety of justifications. When people are urged to reduce their fat and sugar consumption, they are told to eat more starch. Starch stimulates the appetite, promotes fat synthesis by stimulating insulin secretion, and sometimes increases the growth of bacteria that produce toxins..... Various studies have demonstrated that starch (composed of pure glucose) raises blood glucose more quickly than sucrose (half fructose, half glucose) does.”-Ray Peat from"Diabetes, Scleroderma, Oils and Hormones,"
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/diabetes.shtml
13. "Protein deficiency creates an inflammatory state, and since stress causes tissue proteins to be destroyed and converted into sugars and fats, it's common to underestimate the amount of protein needed. One of the functions of sucrose in the diet is to reduce the production of cortisol, and so to spare protein."-from Peat newsletter "Inflammation, endotoxin, estrogen, and other problems"
14. "Any carbohydrate...that is not sugar can potentially feed bacteria [in the intestines] that produce toxins and cause systemic stress."
-Dr. Ray Peat from "Glycemia, Starch and SUGAR in Context!"
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/eastwe...ray-peat-glycemia-starch-and-sugar-in-context
(Go to approximately the 29 minute mark of the interview.)
These are just a few off the top of my head.
Discuss amongst yourselves and report back!