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Am a huge fan of NMN have noticed better results from NMN vs. Niacinamide alone. Anyone know of any good sources for this?
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NMN is fairly unstable and a lot of supps tested had low to no NMN in them. Beta-NMN is a more stable form, but as far as I know, regardless of the form, it's still expensive.Am a huge fan of NMN have noticed better results from NMN vs. Niacinamide alone. Anyone know of any good sources for this?
I wonder if they spiked my NMN then with something else...I looked it up and apparently it has 0 NMN detected!NMN is fairly unstable and a lot of supps tested had low to no NMN in them. Beta-NMN is a more stable form, but as far as I know, regardless of the form, it's still expensive.
Thanks! I assume NR is the same vendors too?Not sure your budget but Prohealth longevity, renue by science, donotage, and double wood supplements all have high quality nmn powder that has been confirmed with testing.
I think Renue by Science sells NR but not sure about the others. I'd expect quality is the same.Thanks! I assume NR is the same vendors too?
I've been taking plain niacin for over a year 1,500-3,000 a day. I just bought some powdered NMN from Pure Bulk. I also bought Apigen at Alive by Science. I was going to buy the NMN there too, but it was 100 dollars and I figured I'd try Pure Bulk first.Am a huge fan of NMN have noticed better results from NMN vs. Niacinamide alone. Anyone know of any good sources for this?
Do you worry about adverse liver effects of long-term high-dose niacin supplementation?I think niacin (nicotinic acid, not niacinamide) is the best NAD+ precursor. At nights on empty stomach (at least 6 hours after the last meal), I use 1000 mg nicotinic acid once daily (5 days a week) along with 1000 mg TMG, 5 g D-ribose, 400 mg quercetin, 200 mg trans-resveratrol, 500 mg ascorbic acid, 200 mg grape seed extract, 1.5 g MSM, 10 g collagen peptides. Nicotinic acid itself has made my skin much younger-looking and beautiful. I'm 31 but people think I'm 24-25. It boosts my energy smoothly without causing any side effects like fatigue or insomnia seen with other NAD+ precursors. It also improves my mood as it plays a role in serotonin production. Most importantly, only nicotinic acid improves serum lipids profiles while the other NAD+ precursors has zero effect. I have seen significant reductions in my LDL cholesterol, total cholesterol and triglycerides and a significant increase in my HDL cholesterol (because I'm a heavy cigarette smoker, HDL was always too low and nicotinic acid has dramatically increased it). No other NAD+ precursor comes close to the benefits of nicotinic acid. I pity those who pay tons of money on those precursors other than nicotinic acid.
No. That's only a concern when you use slow-release forms of nicotinic acid or when you use very high doses (more than 3-6 grams a day). The liver damage is most likely due to depletion of methyl groups, which is why I supplement with an equimolar amount of TMG. And I use 1000 mg only, 5 days in a week. I buy nicotinic acid as a pure powder, which I dissolve in a glass of water to achieve the most immediate delivery. My liver enzymes have always been on the very low side.Do you worry about adverse liver effects of long-term high-dose niacin supplementation?
Have you tried niaciamide? And if so, noticed similar effects?I think niacin (nicotinic acid, not niacinamide) is the best NAD+ precursor. At nights on empty stomach (at least 6 hours after the last meal), I use 1000 mg nicotinic acid once daily (5 days a week) along with 1000 mg TMG, 5 g D-ribose, 400 mg quercetin, 200 mg trans-resveratrol, 500 mg ascorbic acid, 200 mg grape seed extract, 1.5 g MSM, 10 g collagen peptides. Nicotinic acid itself has made my skin much younger-looking and beautiful. I'm 31 but people think I'm 24-25. It boosts my energy smoothly without causing any side effects like fatigue or insomnia seen with other NAD+ precursors. It also improves my mood as it plays a role in serotonin production. Most importantly, only nicotinic acid improves serum lipids profiles while the other NAD+ precursors has zero effect. I have seen significant reductions in my LDL cholesterol, total cholesterol and triglycerides and a significant increase in my HDL cholesterol (because I'm a heavy cigarette smoker, HDL was always too low and nicotinic acid has dramatically increased it). No other NAD+ precursor comes close to the benefits of nicotinic acid. I pity those who pay tons of money on those precursors other than nicotinic acid.
I tried niacinamide as well. It sometimes gave a sense of energy when I used at up to 250 mg. But when I used at 500 mg or above, it just knocked me down, caused extreme fatigue. Nicotinamide riboside (NR) was better than niacinamide in that regard but it also caused some fatigue from time to time (much milder than niacinamide) and sometimes insomnia. I tried niacinamide and NR (from Thorne's Resveracel) long enough but they never changed my serum lipid profile. Only nicotinic acid did it (in just 3 months). I have not seen any single side effect with my usage of nicotinic acid so far.Have you tried niaciamide? And if so, noticed similar effects?
Awesome, thanks. What brand would you recommend? From reading Amazon reviews it seems like both BulkSupplements and Nutricost may have changed their formula recently; people are reporting it does not fully dissolve, which niacinamide should.No. That's only a concern when you use slow-release forms of nicotinic acid or when you use very high doses (more than 3-6 grams a day). The liver damage is most likely due to depletion of methyl groups, which is why I supplement with an equimolar amount of TMG. And I use 1000 mg only, 5 days in a week. I buy nicotinic acid as a pure powder, which I dissolve in a glass of water to achieve the most immediate delivery. My liver enzymes have always been on the very low side.
I currently live in Istanbul, therefore order my nicotinic acid (not niacinamide) powder from Europe. I guess you live in the US. I will move to the US next month and am planning to buy the product below:Awesome, thanks. What brand would you recommend? From reading Amazon reviews it seems like both BulkSupplements and Nutricost may have changed their formula recently; people are reporting it does not fully dissolve, which niacinamide should.
I'd recommend the Toniiq brand of NMN. Our analytical assays indicate a high purity of NMN without the price gouge of ProHealth.NMN is fairly unstable and a lot of supps tested had low to no NMN in them. Beta-NMN is a more stable form, but as far as I know, regardless of the form, it's still expensive.
Hi, are you still taking niacin and if yes, how do you avoid (if you do) the niacin flush? I get it after only 500mg and I don`t like it. Thanks.I think niacin (nicotinic acid, not niacinamide) is the best NAD+ precursor. At nights on empty stomach (at least 6 hours after the last meal), I use 1000 mg nicotinic acid once daily (5 days a week) along with 1000 mg TMG, 5 g D-ribose, 400 mg quercetin, 200 mg trans-resveratrol, 500 mg ascorbic acid, 200 mg grape seed extract, 1.5 g MSM, 10 g collagen peptides. Nicotinic acid itself has made my skin much younger-looking and beautiful. I'm 31 but people think I'm 24-25. It boosts my energy smoothly without causing any side effects like fatigue or insomnia seen with other NAD+ precursors. It also improves my mood as it plays a role in serotonin production. Most importantly, only nicotinic acid improves serum lipids profiles while the other NAD+ precursors has zero effect. I have seen significant reductions in my LDL cholesterol, total cholesterol and triglycerides and a significant increase in my HDL cholesterol (because I'm a heavy cigarette smoker, HDL was always too low and nicotinic acid has dramatically increased it). No other NAD+ precursor comes close to the benefits of nicotinic acid. I pity those who pay tons of money on those precursors other than nicotinic acid.