Parsifal
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About addictions I have some things to ask after listening again to haidut's podcast.
It seems that we blame addiction just because of stress and a bad environment that doesn't allow people to thrive (rat park's experiment) but in my experience this is not always true, I've had friends that had a very good life and no reason to stress and felt into the drug addiction trap just because of hedonism and lust, the pursuit of more and more pleasure that put them in a vicious cycle that was hard to break once started because you can't feel satisfied once your brain is used to this massive overload of chemicals.
I've also tried some drugs and I can tell you I've never lived a better time in my life even the most happiest moments and I would probably take drugs everytime if my body could handle it (unfortunately my health doesn't allow me to do so). But maybe that is because I've had anhedonia issues since the beginning of my teens.
I think that we forget to talk about the tolerance effect of drugs. When you take a psychoactive product after some times the cells become less sensitive to it (even coffee). I've read on the forum people telling to others that if the effects of coffee where not as strong as in the beginning that is because the metabolism becomes healthier... I'm very skeptical about this claim (but why not), if you don't feel the same effects from heroin than in the beginning this is because your body becomes healthier?
I know we are coming with the paradigm that the cells have no membranes but this is a bit confusing.
I know we are talking about withdrawal symptoms only coming from high serotonin because the addiction was there supposedly because of stress that needed to be adressed that way but what about the tolerance effect and the cells becoming less sensitive to the substance the drugs was agonizing before?
I think this is dangerous to have this exclusive view to addiction even if there is some truth in it, it doesn't seem really true to me.
On the other hand I find it really impressive that DMT for example can bypass heroin withdrawal and things like that. By the way DMT seems really different from LSD and really close in structure to serotonin so maybe it creates a tolerance effect to serotonin making it harder for the brain to use it?
What do you think about it guys? I want to know your opinion on this topic because I'm sure it will allow me to understand more things about it .
It seems that we blame addiction just because of stress and a bad environment that doesn't allow people to thrive (rat park's experiment) but in my experience this is not always true, I've had friends that had a very good life and no reason to stress and felt into the drug addiction trap just because of hedonism and lust, the pursuit of more and more pleasure that put them in a vicious cycle that was hard to break once started because you can't feel satisfied once your brain is used to this massive overload of chemicals.
I've also tried some drugs and I can tell you I've never lived a better time in my life even the most happiest moments and I would probably take drugs everytime if my body could handle it (unfortunately my health doesn't allow me to do so). But maybe that is because I've had anhedonia issues since the beginning of my teens.
I think that we forget to talk about the tolerance effect of drugs. When you take a psychoactive product after some times the cells become less sensitive to it (even coffee). I've read on the forum people telling to others that if the effects of coffee where not as strong as in the beginning that is because the metabolism becomes healthier... I'm very skeptical about this claim (but why not), if you don't feel the same effects from heroin than in the beginning this is because your body becomes healthier?
I know we are coming with the paradigm that the cells have no membranes but this is a bit confusing.
I know we are talking about withdrawal symptoms only coming from high serotonin because the addiction was there supposedly because of stress that needed to be adressed that way but what about the tolerance effect and the cells becoming less sensitive to the substance the drugs was agonizing before?
I think this is dangerous to have this exclusive view to addiction even if there is some truth in it, it doesn't seem really true to me.
On the other hand I find it really impressive that DMT for example can bypass heroin withdrawal and things like that. By the way DMT seems really different from LSD and really close in structure to serotonin so maybe it creates a tolerance effect to serotonin making it harder for the brain to use it?
What do you think about it guys? I want to know your opinion on this topic because I'm sure it will allow me to understand more things about it .