Trump Elected Again?

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First time I've ever heard that. My understanding was abortions for medical reasons were pretty rare
Unfortunately this is not true. It happens frequently and it's increasing as the rate of women in their child bearing years are increasingly sick with autoimmune disease, viral disease, hormonal cancers, and other disease. These women need meds which harm and even kill the fetus. Also, there's a sharp decrease in progesterone after giving birth, this hormonal issue is a known trigger for the above mentioned diseases and is disabling to the mother and baby if the baby even survives to term. If the baby doesn't survive it still needs to be aborted or there is a higher risk of cancer for the woman plus PTSD.
I am in a network of women who have had to deal these devastating illnesses and the numbers are growing.
I don't think Republicans can truly ban abortion but they can make it legally very difficult to get even when medically necessary.
I suppose I'm biased in regards to this issue since I've known so many womens' health and lives be devastated by wanted pregnancies that ended in abortion. And I don't know a single woman who used abortion as birth control, but I know they are out there so I try to remain hopeful that there's a better option than reversing R v W.
 

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Trump plans to ban abortion.

I don't think he does. I heard him explicitly state that he thinks Roe vs. Wade is pretty much "settled law."

He certainly hasn't been an advocate of abortion, or abortion providers. And he doesn't want Federal dollars going to abortion providers. But none of that is "banning" it.

Regardless, as head of the Executive Branch, he has no power to ban abortion, anyway. Everyone needs to stop looking at the President like the man is a King. Any "Banning" of abortion would fall under the Legislature.
 

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The close/crucial states to watch will be Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and to a lesser extent Minnesota, Colorado, North Carolina, and Virginia.

Of the swing states,
I think Biden will win Minnesota, Colorado, Michigan, Virginia, Nevada, New Hampshire, and all his safe states = 249 electoral votes
I think Trump will win Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Florida, and all his safe states = 247 electoral votes

That leaves just Wisconsin, Arizona, and Pennsylvania in play. These three states will decide the outcome.

Pennsylvania is the most important state this election cycle.
 
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As a Latino immigrant I support Trump for challenging scientism and their climate change agenda
 

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Of the swing states,
I think Biden will win Minnesota, Colorado, Michigan, Virginia, Nevada, New Hampshire, and all his safe states = 249 electoral votes
I think Trump will win Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Florida, Arizona, and all his safe states = 247 electoral votes

That leaves just Wisconsin, Arizona, and Pennsylvania in play. These three states will decide the outcome.

Pennsylvania is the most important state this election cycle.

If it's resting on Pennsylvania, then we're doomed. The state supreme court made the decision already to make delayed mail-in voting count, and then made also allowed ballot harvesting. Stacking the odds for Biden.

But this election is coming out to be a game of how fast people are waking up from the lies of the Democratic Party and how fast the DNC can change the rules of fair voting to one where they always will get the winning vote share in crucial elections.

This will be a battle of mass awakened vote turnout vs. systematic vote manipulation. The dark horse is the mass awakening and its extent. Dems leaving their lifelong party, blacks leaving the plantation, latinos turning their nose on the party that don't walk the talk, gays fleeing the intersectionality fluff, and pacifists leaving the party that now advocates for perpetual war. Even leftists betrayed by Bernie find Trump being the lesser of two evils. The only people from the GOP voting Trump are the neocons.

I'm hoping this election would be the death knell for the so-called centrists, which are in reality neocons and neoliberals that have been playing the country for fools all along, This election is about repudiating this despised group and their emptiness of which venality is the sum and product of it.
 

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If it's resting on Pennsylvania, then we're doomed. The state supreme court made the decision already to make delayed mail-in voting count, and then made also allowed ballot harvesting. Stacking the odds for Biden.

I don't think people are aware how much danger the country actually is in due to this upcoming cluster**** of an election. If the election is decided on a 5-4 vote in the supreme court, will it take down the republic?

How the heck are judges and justices really supposed to know which ballots are valid and which aren't?
 

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Just curious, do you feel safe sharing these views with people you know in everyday life?
No I was called cognitive dissonant already. But there's a lot of Cubans and Venezuelans who don't want any socialist or communist policies that are for sure voting for Trump
 

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Candidate: Trump
Represents:
Small Deep State Faction who wants to return to Unfettered National Neoliberalism. Special Attention to Isreal.
Think Tanks: Heritage Foundation & Federalist Society.
Donors : Koch Brothers/Sheldon Adelson/Mercers
Appeal to Peasants: Disenfranchised white middle/working class, Christian, Pro Life..etc. All that

Candidate: Biden
Represents:
Majority of Deep State-Continuation of neoliberal Globalization-Clinton-Bush-Obama Faction.
Think Tanks: Council on Foreign Relations & Trilateral Commission & Atlantic Council
Donors : Most Elites
Appeal to Peasants: Minorities, Poor, Diversity, Liberal Top 10% who virtue signal..etc.

Verdict: Your Interests are not represented in either scenario.

Conclusion: Focus on Local Politicans/State Do not waste a second on President election

Haha, to that point...I’ve heard it said that in America the most important election you vote in is for county sheriff.
 

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Unfortunately this is not true. It happens frequently and it's increasing as the rate of women in their child bearing years are increasingly sick with autoimmune disease, viral disease, hormonal cancers, and other disease. These women need meds which harm and even kill the fetus. Also, there's a sharp decrease in progesterone after giving birth, this hormonal issue is a known trigger for the above mentioned diseases and is disabling to the mother and baby if the baby even survives to term. If the baby doesn't survive it still needs to be aborted or there is a higher risk of cancer for the woman plus PTSD.
I am in a network of women who have had to deal these devastating illnesses and the numbers are growing.
I don't think Republicans can truly ban abortion but they can make it legally very difficult to get even when medically necessary.
I suppose I'm biased in regards to this issue since I've known so many womens' health and lives be devastated by wanted pregnancies that ended in abortion. And I don't know a single woman who used abortion as birth control, but I know they are out there so I try to remain hopeful that there's a better option than reversing R v W.

In contrast, I don’t know a single woman who had to have a medically necessary abortion of a wanted pregnancy, but I’ve known of a handful who aborted unwanted pregnancies.

edit: now that I think about it, everything I’ve ever read on abortion as a political right has come from the angle that it’s about liberating woman from child birth and child rearing. If it were about medical necessity, then why do leftists refer to it as being “pro-choice”? It implies that woman are able to choose whether they want to keep the fetus or not. If it was about medical necessity, the position wouldn’t be called “pro-choice”.
 
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No I was called cognitive dissonant already. But there's a lot of Cubans and Venezuelans who don't want any socialist or communist policies that are for sure voting for Trump

Yeah, the Cubans and Venezuelans experienced what our country is going through already. I've seen the videos and postings from Cubans and Venezuelans begging Americans to wake up and not give away the precious freedoms Americans take for granted.
 

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I don't think people are aware how much danger the country actually is in due to this upcoming cluster**** of an election.
That is a scary and may be true. I have family and friends in Silicon Valley. They live in the bubble of tech. I don't discuss anything political with them. They are programmed. The only way they will change their view is if they lose their cushy jobs. They never been to flyover states. They don't know what life is outside their bubble.

Other bubbles are k-12 and college campuses. Propagandized by union-favored programmed teacher bots and by professors and admins with their own cancel and toxic culture. In the corporate world, the HR department is a hotbed of virtue signaling parrots that infect the whole corporation. Rank and file just doze off their powerpoints of whatever newfangled "empowering" policy they have, and live off the watercooler and coffee small talk.

But they do not represent the country. The rest of the country is no bubble.

If the election is decided on a 5-4 vote in the supreme court, will it take down the republic?
No, it will save it, but barely.

Don Lemon was right. We'll have to burn the thing down - the whole fake media complex. the whole deep state complex. the whole ******* financial complex. the whole pharmaceutical complex. the whole freaking military-industrial complex.

Or they will keep coming back, far stronger each time they are frustrated. All it takes for them is one round of victory to finish us off as a country and a people. They've only lost once, but having lost they have an eye for revenge.

How the heck are judges and justices really supposed to know which ballots are valid and which aren't?

They won't.

It will be such a crisis I can't imagine what pretext will be used to send the military goons in. A coup is not out of the question. There's always a first. And this has the element of a surprise. But they've had plenty of practice elsewhere around the world. I hope we don't get the taste of what they did to Iran in 1956.
 

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Haha, to that point...I’ve heard it said that in America the most important election you vote in is for county sheriff.

Or, here in TX, Railroad Commissioner, which most people scoff at, thinking of Sir Topham Hatt from Thomas the Tank Engine. When in fact they have a huge influence in your local environment, especially if one is concerned about things like fracking sites popping up in their backyards.
 

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They all love war as far as I know. They all suck
True. To be fair, the Yemen nightmare started long before Trump, so @Risingfire is correct, I think.

The latest report, entitled "Situation of human rights in Yemen, including violations and abuses since September 2014," comes from the Group of Eminent International and Regional Experts on Yemen, a body authorized by the UN Human Rights Council to identify "all alleged violations and abuses of international human rights law and all alleged violations of international humanitarian law committed by all parties to the [Yemen] conflict since September 2014." [Quoted on US Lawmakers Face War Crime Charges for Their Role in Yemen : The Corbett Report .]
 

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Since RBG died, abortion will be an important factor.
Trump plans to ban abortion. Which is far more terrifying to me than anything Biden could do. And I'm pretty terrified by Biden as well.
Abortion is a life saving medical procedure in many cases.

Abortion is a life ending medical procedure in every case.

It is quite sick to say that a mother’s choice to terminate a healthy pregnancy is a human right. Sicker to have the state pay for it.

Parents are meant to love and sacrifice themselves for their children, not sacrifice their children.

Psychologically, if a mother treats her child like worthless garbage, how can she believe she holds any inherent value herself?

Trump has been sent by God as a blessing to the US and the world. He is pro life and shall end child sacrifice by installing Christians to the Supreme Court.

They will declare that unborn children are living humans protected by the Constitution and cannot be murdered.

End Time Prophecy Revealed! (Jonathan Cahn) - Sid Roth – It’s Supernatural! | sidroth.org
 

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Candidate: Trump
Represents:
Small Deep State Faction who wants to return to Unfettered National Neoliberalism. Special Attention to Isreal.
Think Tanks: Heritage Foundation & Federalist Society.
Donors : Koch Brothers/Sheldon Adelson/Mercers
Appeal to Peasants: Disenfranchised white middle/working class, Christian, Pro Life..etc. All that

Candidate: Biden
Represents:
Majority of Deep State-Continuation of neoliberal Globalization-Clinton-Bush-Obama Faction.
Think Tanks: Council on Foreign Relations & Trilateral Commission & Atlantic Council
Donors : Most Elites
Appeal to Peasants: Minorities, Poor, Diversity, Liberal Top 10% who virtue signal..etc.

Verdict: Your Interests are not represented in either scenario.

Conclusion: Focus on Local Politicans/State Do not waste a second on President election
:thumbsup: Yes. And that local level is where the horrid NextDoor App has their plants.
 

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No I was called cognitive dissonant already. But there's a lot of Cubans and Venezuelans who don't want any socialist or communist policies that are for sure voting for Trump
My family in Miami say the latin news is endless "No communista!"

And they love the "Cheriff!"
But not all the sheriffs are "sheriffs for constitution" sheriffs. There are lockstep and agenda 21 plants there too.
 

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Parents are meant to love and sacrifice themselves for their children, not sacrifice their children.

Psychologically, if a mother treats her child like worthless garbage, how can she believe she holds any inherent value herself?

While your statement about parents loving and sacrificing for their kids I agree with, it is the ideal, and there are plenty of examples where people fail to live up to that ideal, some of them falling short quite badly, which has severe consequences for children.

I would rather have a way for people that shouldn’t have children to not have them in the first place, rather than having to spend so much money and decades of support trying to un-scramble the damage done by irresponsible parents and unwanted children.

Also as one lady earlier stated there are many conditions now in women that can quite negatively effect the health of unborn children, which in previous societies never occurred. In these situations I also agree with termination. These women may indeed have other children, and can be partners, sisters, daughters and form a connected network in their community. Do you expect women in these situations to either die due to the complications of their pregnancy, or have to raise a child that is mentally and physically damaged?
 
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