Trump Elected Again?

[Tristan Loscha]

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-889

 

[postman]

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-889

McSweeneys is a pro-censorship, racist, sexist publication.

 

[Tristan Loscha]

McSweeneys is a pro-censorship, racist, sexist publication.

Care to elaborate? I do not know them, but liked the compilation of quotes.

 

[x72]

Good link Tristan. Wow the guy is just the definition of sleaze

 

[Summer]

Care to elaborate? I do not know them, but liked the compilation of quotes.

Wow impressive website. I didn’t know you were fighting the patriarchy, Tristan. What’s next? Refinery29 and Vice? How about Salon?

 

[YourUniverse]

Quite a lenient take on the term "atrocity"

 

[PaulaOj]

That's how California is dominated by Democrats. Mail voting is their ace in the hole. Lawyering up their backup plan. Now, they have rioters as their insurance. Plenty of useful idiots for the elites to use to push their will.

I’m f****** sick of California. I live here. Our state has been ruined by liberal nazis

 

[tankasnowgod]

unfair comparison and you know it.

This, however, is a very detailed and pretty fair comparison (although yes, the title and writing style is brash)-

Gun Control: The TL;DR For The Ignorant and Illiterate

"If Plano, TX,—gun capital-per citizen of the U.S. and the world—were a country, it would rank in the lowest 10 of all-cause homicide (#7 currently).

If these [Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, St. Louis] were countries, in contrast to Plano, TX, rather than being in the bottom 10 for all homicide, they would rank 4-7, in the highest of 218. Democrats. Leftists. Gun Control Aficionados."

And wrapping up all points-

"— America has about 357 Millon guns amongst a population of 312 Millon.

— In total, there are 32,000 deaths per year from firearms, 60% being suicide.

— Stripping out small numbers of both accidents (under 1,000) and justified shootings (just over 1,000), leaves 33% being homicide.

— But 80% of the homicides are from inner-city, gang related activities (to which drug laws likely contribute a great deal), and all of them are cities that have been in the hands of leftist, socialist, gun-grabbing Democrats for decades. Every single one.

— We’re left with about 1,700 homicides in a population of 312 million that are predators preying on innocents.

— That’s 0.00000544871795 or .00054%. And this is what everyone’s all up in arms about?

— Compare that to the estimated 210,000 – 400,000 that die each year from preventable medical errors, or the 3,500 that drown in swimming pools."

 

[Ledo]

This, however, is a very detailed and pretty fair comparison (although yes, the title and writing style is brash)-

Gun Control: The TL;DR For The Ignorant and Illiterate
'

"If Plano, TX,—gun capital-per citizen of the U.S. and the world—were a country, it would rank in the lowest 10 of all-cause homicide (#7 currently).

If these [Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, St. Louis] were countries, in contrast to Plano, TX, rather than being in the bottom 10 for all homicide, they would rank 4-7, in the highest of 218. Democrats. Leftists. Gun Control Aficionados."

And wrapping up all points-

"— America has about 357 Millon guns amongst a population of 312 Millon.

— In total, there are 32,000 deaths per year from firearms, 60% being suicide.

— Stripping out small numbers of both accidents (under 1,000) and justified shootings (just over 1,000), leaves 33% being homicide.

— But 80% of the homicides are from inner-city, gang related activities (to which drug laws likely contribute a great deal), and all of them are cities that have been in the hands of leftist, socialist, gun-grabbing Democrats for decades. Every single one.

— We’re left with about 1,700 homicides in a population of 312 million that are predators preying on innocents.

— That’s 0.00000544871795 or .00054%. And this is what everyone’s all up in arms about?

— Compare that to the estimated 210,000 – 400,000 that die each year from preventable medical errors, or the 3,500 that drown in swimming pools."

Bravo, thanks for posting this, Richard can be a wrecking ball.

How many time have you heard a collective "But we have to do something!" after a shooting, false flag etc, screamed from the mouth of some ignorant?

You can warn them taking the guns always ends badly and it usually the communists that do the killing - in the millions.

Oh the scoffs that a brainwashed mind can huff out at you for suggesting such a thing but here we are, Antifa burning, looting and murdering , running unchecked in the streets of America.

And they contend still no need for guns as they plot our deaths outload. Surreal.

Antifa, anti- fascists get it, communists, the same group on the far left of hitler in the 1932-33 elections in Germany where these guys were pulling the same color revolution as they are here with the same youhoo sponsors. Go find the picture of the banner they hoisted in the election hall next to the Nazi social democrats. Its the defiant fist plunging upright over the antifa flag.

But the same woke morons, the ones that eventually got slaughtered when no longer needed, demand our guns be taken oblivious to the history repeat playing out.

Well shame on us if we let them get away with it.

P.s. Ask Aussies and kiwis how their gun grab worked out for that. Jackboots on the streets and in livingrooms kicking in heads, pregnant or not.

 

[managing]

This, however, is a very detailed and pretty fair comparison (although yes, the title and writing style is brash)-

Gun Control: The TL;DR For The Ignorant and Illiterate

"If Plano, TX,—gun capital-per citizen of the U.S. and the world—were a country, it would rank in the lowest 10 of all-cause homicide (#7 currently).

If these [Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, St. Louis] were countries, in contrast to Plano, TX, rather than being in the bottom 10 for all homicide, they would rank 4-7, in the highest of 218. Democrats. Leftists. Gun Control Aficionados."

And wrapping up all points-

"— America has about 357 Millon guns amongst a population of 312 Millon.

— In total, there are 32,000 deaths per year from firearms, 60% being suicide.

— Stripping out small numbers of both accidents (under 1,000) and justified shootings (just over 1,000), leaves 33% being homicide.

— But 80% of the homicides are from inner-city, gang related activities (to which drug laws likely contribute a great deal), and all of them are cities that have been in the hands of leftist, socialist, gun-grabbing Democrats for decades. Every single one.

— We’re left with about 1,700 homicides in a population of 312 million that are predators preying on innocents.

— That’s 0.00000544871795 or .00054%. And this is what everyone’s all up in arms about?

— Compare that to the estimated 210,000 – 400,000 that die each year from preventable medical errors, or the 3,500 that drown in swimming pools."

Wait a minute. Homicides from gang/drug related activity . . . the problem is (according to you) that only one side has guns? And if Republicans ran big cities, both sides would have guns. And if both sides had guns, they wouldn't point them at each other and pull the trigger?

 

[tankasnowgod]

Wait a minute. Homicides from gang/drug related activity . . . the problem is (according to you) that only one side has guns? And if Republicans ran big cities, both sides would have guns. And if both sides had guns, they wouldn't point them at each other and pull the trigger?

Where did you see me claim anything about "sides," or that only "one side" has guns?

The stats are reproduced from the article I linked (hence the quotes). I don't know where you think I said there was a singular "problem," or that one was stated anywhere in the article.

That being said, the one thing that every criminal or bully is terrified of is an armed victim. I have yet to hear any gun control advocate rationally explain why someone who is willing to violate laws against murder, rape, grand theft and such will somehow cower in fear and bow down to some mandate about firearms. Makes no sense.

And hey, in Plano, Texas, virtually anyone could be packing multiple guns at any given time, and they don't appear to be shooting each other constantly. Quite the opposite, actually. I would say that real life example is an emphatic 'NO" to the final question you posed (just replace "both sides" with "everyone").

Regardless, the homicide from guns in the US appears to be between 10-11,000 per year, in a country with well over 300 million people (probably 350 Million at this point). That's right around 8,000 or so gang related gun homicides per year.

 

[yerrag]

4 years ago, the same Chris Wallace asked Trump the same question:



The question was "Will you disavow white supremacists?"

 

[Maljam]

Bravo, thanks for posting this, Richard can be a wrecking ball.

How many time have you heard a collective "But we have to do something!" after a shooting, false flag etc, screamed from the mouth of some ignorant?

You can warn them taking the guns always ends badly and it usually the communists that do the killing - in the millions.

Oh the scoffs that a brainwashed mind can huff out at you for suggesting such a thing but here we are, Antifa burning, looting and murdering , running unchecked in the streets of America.

And they contend still no need for guns as they plot our deaths outload. Surreal.

Antifa, anti- fascists get it, communists, the same group on the far left of hitler in the 1932-33 elections in Germany where these guys were pulling the same color revolution as they are here with the same youhoo sponsors. Go find the picture of the banner they hoisted in the election hall next to the Nazi social democrats. Its the defiant fist plunging upright over the antifa flag.

But the same woke morons, the ones that eventually got slaughtered when no longer needed, demand our guns be taken oblivious to the history repeat playing out.

Well shame on us if we let them get away with it.

P.s. Ask Aussies and kiwis how their gun grab worked out for that. Jackboots on the streets and in livingrooms kicking in heads, pregnant or not.

Re: Australia

"Between 1991 and 2001, the number of firearm-related deaths in Australia declined by 47%. Suicides committed with firearms accounted for 77% of these deaths, followed by firearms homicide (15%), firearms accidents (5%), firearms deaths resulting from legal intervention and undetermined deaths (2%). The number of firearms suicides was in decline consistently from 1991 to 1998, two years after the introduction of firearm regulation in 1996."
http://aic.gov.au/publications/current series/tandi/261-280/tandi269.html

"A 2006 study coauthored by Simon Chapman concluded: "Australia's 1996 gun law reforms were followed by more than a decade free of fatal mass shootings, and accelerated declines in firearm deaths, particularly suicides. Total homicide rates followed the same pattern. Removing large numbers of rapid-firing firearms from civilians may be an effective way of reducing mass shootings, firearm homicides and firearm suicides."
Australia's 1996 gun law reforms: faster falls in firearm deaths, firearm suicides, and a decade without mass shootings - PubMed

They also haven't had a mass school shooting since the ban I don't think, which America seems to have on a weekly basis at some points.

 

[schultz]

We all know that Trump has condemned white supremacy before and we all know the question is ludicrous. That's not the point. Don't want to make it any easier for the left wing propaganda outlets to smear Trump.

Yes he should have just said he doesn't support white supremacists. However Biden mentioned the Proud Boys and I think Trump wanted to point out that they are not a white supremacists organization, which they don't appear to be. But according to "the left" it's almost like every white person is a white supremacists, because the whole system is white supremacists. White privelage and all that. So it becomes a bit confusing as to who the left thinks is a white supremacists.

But now he claims he doesn't know who the Proud Boys even are, which could be true I suppose...

Poor pandemic response - Trump response better than democrats >> ??? the democrats did not have an opportunity for a response and yet you say it was better. This imaginary response must have been preeeeetty bad lol. Bad faith to count this one for Trump.

Some States have democratic governors who made poor decisions. Like Cuomo who sent elderly people with COVID back to nursing homes. Although he recently denied he did this.

 

[schultz]

all women should have the right and the equal possibility to decide over their own body.

Aside from rape, women do have the right to use various methods of contraception. Once there is a baby inside though, it is no longer a choice of "their own body", it's a choice of "their own body plus the body of someone else, a completely unique indovidual". Shouldn't that new person get to decide what to do with their own body? Of course the confusing part is when do we decide that a baby is a baby? I don't have the answer to that but surely we have some idea? I hope nobody thinks it's okay to abort an 8 month pregnancy. Even a 20 week pregnancy. It's sad to think about chopping off the limbs of a 20 week old baby and pulling out the pieces.

 

[Kvothe]

at that moment Biden interrupted

How dare he interrupt him while Trump was speaking

 

[managing]

Where did you see me claim anything about "sides," or that only "one side" has guns?

The stats are reproduced from the article I linked (hence the quotes). I don't know where you think I said there was a singular "problem," or that one was stated anywhere in the article.

That being said, the one thing that every criminal or bully is terrified of is an armed victim. I have yet to hear any gun control advocate rationally explain why someone who is willing to violate laws against murder, rape, grand theft and such will somehow cower in fear and bow down to some mandate about firearms. Makes no sense.

And hey, in Plano, Texas, virtually anyone could be packing multiple guns at any given time, and they don't appear to be shooting each other constantly. Quite the opposite, actually. I would say that real life example is an emphatic 'NO" to the final question you posed (just replace "both sides" with "everyone").

Regardless, the homicide from guns in the US appears to be between 10-11,000 per year, in a country with well over 300 million people (probably 350 Million at this point). That's right around 8,000 or so gang related gun homicides per year.

I don't want to put words in your mouth, which is why I ended my sentences with question marks.

You seem to be implying that people in Plano don't shoot each other because they all have guns. You also seem to want to draw causality from the political party of the mayor. So I assume that the mayor of Plano is Republican. Meanwhile, you say that much bigger cities have Democratic mayors and therefore lots of gang related violence.

The overwhelming majority of gang-related violence is gang-on-gang. Hence my assumption that you were saying that the problem is that only one gang has guns? Because democratic mayors are passing legislation to restrict guns. So, not enough guns in democratic mayored cities?

I am trying to understand the claim you made about why democrat-gun control = bad. Trying to figure out how we get from "not enough guns" to "ergo, violence".

 

[tankasnowgod]

The overwhelming majority of gang-related violence is gang-on-gang. Hence my assumption that you were saying that the problem is that only one gang has guns?

I have no idea why you would possibly come to this assumption, based on anything I stated, or anything in the article.

 

[managing]

I have no idea why you would possibly come to this assumption, based on anything I stated, or anything in the article.

Well, you said that republican cities like Plano have little gun violence because everybody has a gun and that the big democratic cities have lots of gun violence because the government takes guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.

You also said that 80% of the gun violence in the US is gang-related in big, democratic cities.

Maybe you didn't mean those two things to have anything to do with each other, but I am trying to reason from one to the other and the only thing I can come up with is that gang violence would go down if there were more guns (like Plano). But, given that most gang violence is gang-on-gang, that would mean arming gangs better as a deterrent.

I totally believe you didn't mean to say that. But it is the logical extension of what you said, so I wanted to check it out. But if you didn't mean to say that, then my question would be what does gun control have to do with gang violence?

 

[tankasnowgod]

Maybe you didn't mean those two things to have anything to do with each other, but I am trying to reason from one to the other and the only thing I can come up with is that gang violence would go down if there were more guns (like Plano). But, given that most gang violence is gang-on-gang, that would mean arming gangs better as a deterrent.

If that's the "only thing" you can come up with, your thinking is very, very limited.

Also, saying "Gun Control Legislation is ineffective at stopping violence" is a very different than saying "We should provide street gangs with firearms."