There Is A Massive Conspiracy To Push Transsexuality On Kids

[Cirion]

I think @noordinary makes a few interesting points. Most couples today both work, or at the very least one works too much, and the kid is either neglected by one or both parents, so that kinda goes into the environment problems discussed. Never understood the addiction to work personally especially now as I strive to bring stress down, not further up. I personally can't wait to retire, and saving hard to make it happen as soon as I can, so I can move to a nice climate that is pro-metabolic. Money is nice, but if you sacrifice your health to get it, it's a complete trap. If you're working a job you love and it brings joy and stress reduction, that's awesome, but for most of us that's not the case. And I feel like I'm also the only one that is taking my sweet time to worry about having kids lol. I want to have a 100% handle on my own health before even considering that. I see all my friends having kids in their 20s, and then having to work until their 60-70s. I realized early on that's not the life I wanted, waiting until you're 60-70 to actually do what you wanna do, doesn't seem like a life to me. Though, perhaps I digress a bit from the original topic of discussion lol.

 

[Dessert_All_Day]

Wow REALLY?!!! Cool story breh.

Your response clearly indicated that you weren't aware that it was sarcasm.

 

[Sobieski]

Your response clearly indicated that you weren't aware that it was sarcasm.

Thanks for the amazing info

 

[Ulysses]

Oh please come on, “pushing” transexuality on kids... Do you really think that anyone can push that on a kid?

It is like denying depression and saying that that people are pushed on SSRI while they actually felt allright. The SSRI’s are not the solution, but dont deny the problem.

I am not trans but I was diagnosed with major depression, the symptoms of which crippled me for several years of my life. I am now fully recovered from it, but when ill I sought treatment in a variety of ways, which included taking SSRIs.

So, I am in a good position to tell you that your response actually makes the point of the article: like “trans,” the “depression” diagnosis is not based on any measurable pathology, and was preceded by the drugs that are prescribed to cure it, not vice-versa. In a very real sense, the diagnostic category of “depression” as we know it was created to sell drugs, rather than drugs being developed to treat depression. This is a theme in neuropsychopharmacology, and there are a number of book-length, scholarly histories showing how various psychiatric illnesses were tailor-made for promising drugs that needed a market.

This is occasionally even admitted and lauded as a virtue by the proponents of the drugs, including “Listening to Prozac” by Peter Kramer, the most famous (and convincing) pro-SSRI argument. In Kramer’s case, that argument is literally the title of his book: the idea being that since Prozac “obviously” has beneficial effects on the mind and personality, we can learn “what depression is” by “listening” to it, i.e. observing how it changes the patients who take it.

I see no difference in the case of transgenderism: a certain subset of gender dysphoria patients are being ruthlessly exploited to sell unbelievably expensive medical treatments, which don’t work. That they don’t work is utterly beyond dispute, far moreso than in the case of antidepressants, with every long-term study of sexual reassignment outcomes showing astronomically high rates of suicide and disability.

Having suffered from “depression,” I woupd never deny that there’s a serious problem, which requires urgent and effective medical treatment. However, there is scant evidence that the drugs we “listened to” in creating the diagnostic category do much of anything to fix the problem. The diagnostic category is thus broken, and I think there’s a fine argument to be made that, empirically, “depression” does not exist. Rejecting the validity of the diagnosis is very different from saying there’s nothing wrong with the patient.

In the same way, I totally believe that kids with gender dysphoria have some legitimate medical or psychological condition, and need to be cared for, in both medical and non-medical ways — and you’re right, pushing them “to be normal” is not the way. I just don't think that the current mania for reassignment is serving them at all.

 

[Dessert_All_Day]

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[Sobieski]

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[Sobieski]

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[Sobieski]

Lol...why are you so triggered ITT? You could just admit that you goofed.

Instead you're acting as if you had an estrogen pill jammed up your butt.

You don't seem to understand the context of the reply.... I suggest you go out and socialise more. Healthy social circles are also key to health. I hope you eventually find your path to feeling well. All the best.

 

[Dessert_All_Day]

You don't seem to understand the context of the reply. The fact that my post has gotten to you should indicate you need your estrogen checked. What are your labs?

This is not complicated; you failed to recognize sarcasm. You then spazzed because I pointed this out.

 

[Sobieski]

This is not complicated; you failed to recognize sarcasm. You then spazzed because I pointed this out.

When did you discover you are psychic?

 

[Dessert_All_Day]

When did you discover you are psychic?

You just can't admit a simple mistake. Sad.

 

[Sobieski]

You just can't admit a simple mistake. Sad.

No mistake, you just don't understand the reply. You don't have many friends do you? It's okay to admit it.

 

[Dessert_All_Day]

No mistake, you just don't understand the reply. You don't have many friends do you? It's okay to admit it.

There's nothing to understand; your reply literally couldn't be interpreted in any other way.

 

[Sobieski]

There's nothing to understand; your reply literally couldn't be interpreted in any other way.

That's because you're clearly not very bright.

 

[rei]

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Interesting, my first idea that came to mind was that when you have healthier hormonal levels your mind functions better and is able to better decode the vitality aspects that are not obvious/superficial. Many species employ strategies to display vitality that are objectively detrimental to their capability. Implying being so strong that they still can survive. Same is true for humans to some degree, but since society ensures everyone survives the real search for vitality must be focused on aspects that actually increase capability instead of being just clickbaity.

 

[Lynne]

Agenda 21 global depopulation agenda? An actual thing?

But that would be implying the problem is purely psychological and not
Physiological, but I’ll back track on my previous statement and say that it’s probably both.

Absolutely it's both. I would even say it's purely phsiological, in the sense that clinical depression, bi-polar disorder and a number of other psychiatric disorders are the mental manifestation of physiological problems/imbalances. I've heard in the past that a minority of transgender people's depression and cognitive dissonance is resolved by fully transitioning.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Just to point out what the human rights tribunals think these days. Peterson was not only right, he seems to have understated the case.

CARPAY: 16 Vancouver women facing human rights complaints for refusing to wax transgender woman’s male genitalia

and:

Or maybe women are OK with this. I don't know, I would not be.

 

[haidut]

To @Mufasa @lampofred and @Runenight201 - something about environmental source of endocrine disruptors. As the study below shows, the issue is much much worse and it spans tens of different chemicals (including estrogens usually from BC pills) many of which have endocrine effects, usually feminizing for males and masculinizing for females. What's even worse - these chemicals seem to be accumulating in organisms that are exposed to them. So, not much hope for excretion as long the exposure continues. Similar to the spiders eating contaminated bugs, the meat, fish and even plants we eat are all full of these chemicals so we get not only exposed to them daily but the concentrations of these poisons in our tissues likely grows with time. And keep in mind that for many of these chemicals there is no threshold of safety - i.e. just like radiation they are dangerous in any amount.
So, based on the study below, basically eating fish on a regular basis would get you exposed to amounts of SSRI close to what people taking them by prescription experience. The situation with estrogens is likely worse because some of the synthetic ones have extremely long half-life and over time a person probably accumulates as much estrogen as if they were taking BC pills. I don't even want to think how much estrogen the women on BC pills accumulate as they absorb environmental estrogens on top of what they consume as BC pills...

Flushed Pharmaceuticals Are Likely Drugging Stream Dwellers Like The Platypus - D-brief
"...Many of these aquatic invertebrates are the larvae of insects that leave the water as adults. This means they live out the rest of their lives on land where they might be eaten by terrestrial predators like spiders. So to see if the aquatic pharmaceutical contamination would make it onto land, the scientists also tested the spiders living on the river’s edge that are known to specialize on eating the adult versions of the river-based larvae. They found traces of 66 of the compounds in the spiders. At some sites, the pharmaceutical concentrations were an order of magnitude higher than in the nearby aquatic invertebrates. This would suggest some of these compounds are bioaccumulating, or becoming more and more concentrated as they move up the food chain. A single spider eats a lot of insects, so any time a compound has accumulated in the bodies of the insects, the spider that eats them will be exposed to substantially higher levels."

"...They crunched the numbers based on the concentrations they measured in the invertebrates and the predators’ normal eating habits. They found that the two predators are likely intaking drugs on a daily basis from at least 22 different drug classes at a rate of about 2 to 10 percent of what a human dose would be. The notable exception was antidepressants: The scientists estimated the trout would take in almost 30 percent of a human antidepressant dose daily, while the platypus would take in closer to 50 percent. Richmond thinks this could be because of some combination of sheer use of the drugs and their persistence in waterways, which allows them to maintain consistently higher concentrations in the water — and in the animals."

 

[Runenight201]

What a world we live in. Let’s reconstruct the garden of eden and all elope there.

 

[lampofred]

To @Mufasa @lampofred and @Runenight201 - something about environmental source of endocrine disruptors. As the study below shows, the issue is much much worse and it spans tens of different chemicals (including estrogens usually from BC pills) many of which have endocrine effects, usually feminizing for males and masculinizing for females. What's even worse - these chemicals seem to be accumulating in organisms that are exposed to them. So, not much hope for excretion as long the exposure continues. Similar to the spiders eating contaminated bugs, the meat, fish and even plants we eat are all full of these chemicals so we get not only exposed to them daily but the concentrations of these poisons in our tissues likely grows with time. And keep in mind that for many of these chemicals there is no threshold of safety - i.e. just like radiation they are dangerous in any amount.
So, based on the study below, basically eating fish on a regular basis would get you exposed to amounts of SSRI close to what people taking them by prescription experience. The situation with estrogens is likely worse because some of the synthetic ones have extremely long half-life and over time a person probably accumulates as much estrogen as if they were taking BC pills. I don't even want to think how much estrogen the women on BC pills accumulate as they absorb environmental estrogens on top of what they consume as BC pills...

Flushed Pharmaceuticals Are Likely Drugging Stream Dwellers Like The Platypus - D-brief
"...Many of these aquatic invertebrates are the larvae of insects that leave the water as adults. This means they live out the rest of their lives on land where they might be eaten by terrestrial predators like spiders. So to see if the aquatic pharmaceutical contamination would make it onto land, the scientists also tested the spiders living on the river’s edge that are known to specialize on eating the adult versions of the river-based larvae. They found traces of 66 of the compounds in the spiders. At some sites, the pharmaceutical concentrations were an order of magnitude higher than in the nearby aquatic invertebrates. This would suggest some of these compounds are bioaccumulating, or becoming more and more concentrated as they move up the food chain. A single spider eats a lot of insects, so any time a compound has accumulated in the bodies of the insects, the spider that eats them will be exposed to substantially higher levels."

"...They crunched the numbers based on the concentrations they measured in the invertebrates and the predators’ normal eating habits. They found that the two predators are likely intaking drugs on a daily basis from at least 22 different drug classes at a rate of about 2 to 10 percent of what a human dose would be. The notable exception was antidepressants: The scientists estimated the trout would take in almost 30 percent of a human antidepressant dose daily, while the platypus would take in closer to 50 percent. Richmond thinks this could be because of some combination of sheer use of the drugs and their persistence in waterways, which allows them to maintain consistently higher concentrations in the water — and in the animals."

Aside from maintaining high metabolism via thyroid, are there ways to help our bodies fight all this stuff? Would a high coffee intake help, since Peat says coffee fights all sorts of toxins, or is it ineffective against these things?

 

[haidut]

Aside from maintaining high metabolism via thyroid, are there ways to help our bodies fight all this stuff? Would a high coffee intake help, since Peat says coffee fights all sorts of toxins, or is it ineffective against these things?

I think this is one of the reasons Peat sticks mostly to milk and seafood where the amount of water is so big that the drug contamination in seafood is still acceptable. However, even there the situation gets problematic for seafood like crabs that are harvested relatively close to shore. So, shrimp and deep water fish would be the choice that's left. Even oysters are probably problematic since they are harvested close to shore like the crabs.
SSRI Make Organisms Demented, Violent & Homicidal, Even At Low Doses