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[yerrag]

There are plenty of articles on his webpage www.brianpeskin.com

Thanks. I got to read the first two PDF files I came across. It is good reading.

Brian has a few things in common with Ray - sat fats are good, and fish oils are very bad.

He differs with Peat very strongly in that he is not as fond of sugar and that he considers certain PUFAs he calls parent oils to be essential.

I would even encapsulate their difference by saying Peat considers sugar and carbs as essential (while Peskin considers it much less so) while Peskin considers some PUFAs essential while Peat outright considers all PUFAs as non-essential.

And now I can remember why years ago after hearing an interview of Peskin that I made the decision to ditch all PUFAs and just take SFAs - even before I heard of Ray Peat.

Brian made a good case for why fish oils are unnecessary and harmful, convincing me that fish oils were okay for animals that lived in very cold climates but not for humans that needed to maintain higher body temperatures regardless of climate.

But even as he made his case that PUFAs are essential, he could not convince me that they are because I reasoned that people in countries close to the very sunny equator, even with no access to PUFAs, especially omega3s, could still not only survive but thrive.

So I only took SFAs and MUFAs, and I have been on that lifestyle for about 10 years already.

Notwithstanding, the case studies I just came across from the link you provided are still compelling. Enough for me to give his ideas on parent essential oils another thought.

As I have to, given that although I consider myself very healthy in most aspects, I have very high blood pressure which I have to this day for 20+ years been trying to fix without any pharma drug intake.

 

[yerrag]

It fulfills my deliberate, that all of you on this forum reject the most possibilities that organic omega6 is responsible for your survival
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You are already giving up it seems.

Are you in this forum to share your discovery without making the effort to convince doubters of Peskin's ideas?

I hope you don't expect people to roll over at your command.

 

[apr]

100% correct mate. 10 months taking the EFAs of course I stopped all adulterated hydrogenated oils in my diet.

Does one have to do this to see success? Like never eat out again?
Would there be a danger to taking these supplements and at the same time not strictly avoiding PUFA?
ALSO, I checked out the website but does not say where or what to buy?

Which brand do you take and where do you get? I am interested in trying.

Has Peat ever mentioned this?

 

[Lizb]

Does one have to do this to see success? Like never eat out again?
Would there be a danger to taking these supplements and at the same time not strictly avoiding PUFA?
ALSO, I checked out the website but does not say where or what to buy?

Which brand do you take and where do you get? I am interested in trying.

Has Peat ever mentioned this?

I've heard Ray say that the right ratio of Omega 6 to Omega 3 was necessary. Twice I think, but he never expanded and I can't recall the question or context.

 

[Sitaruîm]

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[yerrag]

Exposing Ancel Keys as a fraud in 10 seconds

That took much longer than 10 seconds, it wasn't at all about Ancel Keys, but still a good interview of Brian. Thank you as it gives us a good idea of his thinking not just on fats but also of carbs.

His thoughts on sugar very anti-Peat. Saying we don't need calcium definitely anti-Peat. But he agrees with Peat on cholesterol being good and needed by the body.

He doesn't seem to know a lot about the different kinds of coconut oil in the market and talks as if there's only one kind. While there is VCO, refined coconut oil, and fully-hydrogenated coconut oil.

I agree him in saying you can eat deep fried foods as long as the oil used has a high smoke point. He mentions the use of ghee and palm oil and a palm oil/coconut oil combo, although I felt without mention of fully-hydrogenated coconut oil he betrays his unfamiliarity or that he simply forgot.

He talks about oxidized cholesterol but it doesn't go far and detailed enough and this leads me to want to understand his take on it as I couldn't understand why the intake of his organic PUFA ois would lead to the reduction and even elimination of plaque in the arteries. This is due to my understanding of the intake of PUFAs as sure to lead to the formation of arterial plaque from oxidized LDL.

As I wrote in an earlier post, I also couldn't understand why we humans need omega6s and omega3s when there isn't much omega6s in a tropical food lifestyle context and even much less omega3s as well. Why would tropical countries need to import his parent oil blends when people in earluer times that haven't imported anything and just ate local found no need for organic parent oils?

 

[Kram]

Does one have to do this to see success? Like never eat out again?
Would there be a danger to taking these supplements and at the same time not strictly avoiding PUFA?
ALSO, I checked out the website but does not say where or what to buy?

Which brand do you take and where do you get? I am interested in trying.

Has Peat ever mentioned this?

You can buy Peskin's supplements here. I agree, this seems interesting. Especially since he acknowledges fish oils and adulterated PUFAs are horrible for health. IMO, can't be too risky for trying for a month or two to see if you get any improvements. It's only ~3gm of PUFA per day.

Parent Essential Oils (PEOS) - Improve Cellular Oxygenation

Parent Essential Oils (PEOs) are thin, oxygen attracting oils that come from seeds and other foods, and that incorporate into cell membranes and increase cellular oxygenation - leading to improved cellular function and health.

oxygen4cells.com

 

[apr]

You can buy Peskin's supplements here. I agree, this seems interesting. Especially since he acknowledges fish oils and adulterated PUFAs are horrible for health. IMO, can't be too risky for trying for a month or two to see if you get any improvements. It's only ~3gm of PUFA per day.

Parent Essential Oils (PEOS) - Improve Cellular Oxygenation

Parent Essential Oils (PEOs) are thin, oxygen attracting oils that come from seeds and other foods, and that incorporate into cell membranes and increase cellular oxygenation - leading to improved cellular function and health.

oxygen4cells.com

Thank you!

May try it out!

 

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Does one have to do this to see success? Like never eat out again?
Would there be a danger to taking these supplements and at the same time not strictly avoiding PUFA?
ALSO, I checked out the website but does not say where or what to buy?

Which brand do you take and where do you get? I am interested in trying.

Has Peat ever mentioned this?

The brand I buy is Called "YES " , there is also a brand called "oxygen4life"

 

[apr]

You can buy Peskin's supplements here. I agree, this seems interesting. Especially since he acknowledges fish oils and adulterated PUFAs are horrible for health. IMO, can't be too risky for trying for a month or two to see if you get any improvements. It's only ~3gm of PUFA per day.

Parent Essential Oils (PEOS) - Improve Cellular Oxygenation

Parent Essential Oils (PEOs) are thin, oxygen attracting oils that come from seeds and other foods, and that incorporate into cell membranes and increase cellular oxygenation - leading to improved cellular function and health.

oxygen4cells.com

I do not want to purchase the books and read more. But somewhere I saw where he advises low carb as well?

What else is his "protocol" in a nutshell and sorry for the laziness. I have tooo many health/diet books!

 

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[yerrag]

I do not want to purchase the books and read more. But somewhere I saw where he advises low carb as well?

What else is his "protocol" in a nutshell and sorry for the laziness. I have tooo many health/diet books!

He is for low carb. I'm as curious as you are, but I think it's better to just leave this for later so we can focus on his main subject and if we want to test his ideas, to test it one at a time.

I skimmed thru his website and not much is expouneed on his low carb ideas. But I would however say that this isn't surprising coming from him. If he I pro-PUFA, how can he not be pro-low carb? As PUFA inhibits sugar absorption, based on Peat's ideas. So one can't be pro-PUFA and be pro- carb as they are mutually exclusive ideas being that they are mutually antagonistic.

And Peskin also says people lose weight because they don't don't feel hungry, sorry if I had to paraphrase his words. But has he talked about metabolism at all? What if the PUFAS makes you go into a low metabolic state and that is why you're hungry and maybe be closer to hibernating and in that way at best to be in a state of protective inhibition which Peat says is good if you're old and your health is not as it used to be when young?

And he also talks about calcium intake being unnecessary and I think that this is because if you're hypothyroid it will calcification and if his recommendations lead to hypothyroid why would he recommend calcium intake when that would lead to more calcification?

 

[Kram]

I do not want to purchase the books and read more. But somewhere I saw where he advises low carb as well?

What else is his "protocol" in a nutshell and sorry for the laziness. I have tooo many health/diet books!

Not totally sure. I know he likes grass-fed animal protein. The below lecture is helpful and interesting.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E5lq-eMX80&t=3s

 

[yerrag]

And Peskin also says people lose weight because they don't don't feel hungry

I meant not hungry

 

[Sitaruîm]

Not totally sure. I know he likes grass-fed animal protein. The below lecture is helpful and interesting.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E5lq-eMX80&t=3s

Peskin uses the words carb and sugar interchangeably.

His argument for maligning carbs is that all of an adult's blood contains about 5 grams of sugar, which is a teaspoon. He proceeds by placing mistrust in "any dietary advice that recommends eating 60 teaspoons of sugar per day, when there is only 1 teaspoon in the blood." Did he not consider that an adult liver can store about 120grams of glycogen? That's 24 teaspoons, and we won't be eating all of our carbs in a single meal. It is therefore perfectly possible to eat 60 tablespoons a day with zero fat gain.

He tells us to go back to the 40s, 50s, and 60s to confirm how good everyone looked compared to now. And he uses this to justify his anti-carb stance, "because people back then weren't told to eat 60% of their calories from carbs." But they did eat a lot of carbs, even if there weren't food pyramids telling them to do so. It seems like he has not even attempted to research what these very people ate back then, and he uses them to justify his anti-carb posture. This led to my disappointment in the man's ability to do research.

He never really explains how the PUFA oils we can buy at the supermarket are "adulterated." What do they do to these oils to adulterate them? Margarine is hydrogenated, what's done to sunflower oil? As far as I know vegetable oils are highly processed in the sense that they require industrial machinery to be extracted from the seeds in any appreciable quantity, not because they do anything to the oils to adulterate them. He continues: "The reason they adulterate them is to make it usable for frying so it doesn't go bad, so the fast food places can use the same oil for a month; doesn't lose its oxygen. Problem is: we want it losing its oxygen in the body, it's called oxidation, that's how we get energy." In another video he recommends getting organic vegetable oils. Will the organic one not last a month? Will I have to use the bottle within a week? What will the "true" expiry date be for the organic sunflower oil? Vegetable oil undergoes degradation almost immediately after the seed is crushed. The oil starts to show the sign of primary oxidation as measured by its peroxide value.

The only point he brings that deserves attention is that, since PUFAs are part of all our tissues, it may not be unwarranted to call them essential, and we may need to consume them minorly.

I wrote this based on the first 15 minutes of the video, I don't think I'll watch much longer.

 

[dannibo]

He is for low carb. I'm as curious as you are, but I think it's better to just leave this for later so we can focus on his main subject and if we want to test his ideas, to test it one at a time.

I skimmed thru his website and not much is expouneed on his low carb ideas. But I would however say that this isn't surprising coming from him. If he I pro-PUFA, how can he not be pro-low carb? As PUFA inhibits sugar absorption, based on Peat's ideas. So one can't be pro-PUFA and be pro- carb as they are mutually exclusive ideas being that they are mutually antagonistic.

And Peskin also says people lose weight because they don't don't feel hungry, sorry if I had to paraphrase his words. But has he talked about metabolism at all? What if the PUFAS makes you go into a low metabolic state and that is why you're hungry and maybe be closer to hibernating and in that way at best to be in a state of protective inhibition which Peat says is good if you're old and your health is not as it used to be when young?

And he also talks about calcium intake being unnecessary and I think that this is because if you're hypothyroid it will calcification and if his recommendations lead to hypothyroid why would he recommend calcium intake when that would lead to more calcification?

Skimming through his website is a no no
All the files are profoundly groundbreaking. It bothers me when people still have opinions without knowledge. When one takes the EFAs a multitude of ailments completely disappear. Metabolism is restored to normal.

 

[yerrag]

Skimming through his website is a no no
All the files are profoundly groundbreaking. It bothers me when people still have opinions without knowledge. When one takes the EFAs a multitude of ailments completely disappear. Metabolism is restored to normal.

I picked some articles to read actually. So I wasn't being accurate saying I skimmed it. I read the report of the doctor who showed how impressed he was of the improvement in arterial plaque scores. I read also an article where Dr. Peskin explained how adulterated vegetable oils came to act as plastic films that keot cells from getting oxygenated.I read more than enough to the point that it left me with questions that I can no loge find answers to.

I am skeptical of his claims but anyone who wants to test his claims can try his parent oils to see if they wold worK so quickly the way you said it worked for you.

But I won't try it. I don't see why they can be essential if people living in the tropics have no access to the seeds where the parent oils are sourced from and yet people there have lived long in health in the past with no parent oils to import.

I've asked you for more data from your own personal file but it seems you aren't so keen on sharing them. And I won't ask you more questions given you have a backlog from me already.

I'm glad to hear from you because I thought you have decided that enough is enough and you won't bother with us anymore because we won't roll over for you.

 

[dannibo]

I picked some articles to read actually. So I wasn't being accurate saying I skimmed it. I read the report of the doctor who showed how impressed he was of the improvement in arterial plaque scores. I read also an article where Dr. Peskin explained how adulterated vegetable oils came to act as plastic films that keot cells from getting oxygenated.I read more than enough to the point that it left me with questions that I can no loge find answers to.

I am skeptical of his claims but anyone who wants to test his claims can try his parent oils to see if they wold worK so quickly the way you said it worked for you.

But I won't try it. I don't see why they can be essential if people living in the tropics have no access to the seeds where the parent oils are sourced from and yet people there have lived long in health in the past with no parent oils to import.

I've asked you for more data from your own personal file but it seems you aren't so keen on sharing them. And I won't ask you more questions given you have a backlog from me already.

I'm glad to hear from you because I thought you have decided that enough is enough and you won't bother with us anymore because we won't roll over for you.

My issues are now with doctors who are point blank refusing even a blood test because I refused to take their recommended pharma drugs and in fact they are not interested in health whatsoever. The blood tests I received in the past showed no lack of minerals, all my immune cells were functioning and my crp was 3.2 as against 5.6 for years.prof peskin says there are peos in fruits and vegetables,nuts etc, but the real issue is in the west we are poisoned with adulterated oils from the moment we are born, so it's a long term deficiency which is why it's necessary to supplement the peos

 

[apr]

I am on blood pressure meds for hypertension and SVT. I too would like off. My Oxygen 4 Life arrived today and will start this week as a trial.

Two questions:

1. What is CDS?

2. Does intravenous Ozone therapy oxygenate the cells in the same way as PEO? I have access to this IV therapy and have been getting it once or twice a month during pandemic. Have not gotten the rona yet....don't know if that is why. Unvaxxed.

Thank you anyone who knows the answer.

 

[dannibo]

I am on blood pressure meds for hypertension and SVT. I too would like off. My Oxygen 4 Life arrived today and will start this week as a trial.

Two questions:

1. What is CDS?

2. Does intravenous Ozone therapy oxygenate the cells in the same way as PEO? I have access to this IV therapy and have been getting it once or twice a month during pandemic. Have not gotten the rona yet....don't know if that is why. Unvaxxed.

Thank you anyone who knows the answer.

CDS is Chlorine Dioxide Solution. You can find out here www.theuniversalantidote.com