Ex Propecia User! Low Estrogen / High Prolactin Desperate For Help!

[daniel1286]

Sorry guys a lot of this going over my head now

So are you saying I probably don't actually have low estrogen?

Should I start dostinex as my next step?

 

[JoeKool]

If you have high prolactin side effects, dostinex or pramipexole would help

 

[daniel1286]

Cool Joe thanks so much

at this moment Im not so concerned about the ED - just wanna cure this bloody day time fatigue

 

[Serotoninja]

Usually high prolactin is associated with high estrogen so you may have low estradiol but high estrone/estriol in which case 17b-HSD is inhibited for some reason however fradon is right saying that low dopamine may cause high prolactin which implies low androgens and thus low estrogen. In either case taking a dopaminergic drug like dostinex (cabergoline), lisuride or metergoline is a good idea in the short term.

 

[daniel1286]

Thanks @Serotoninja appreciate your advice

Im on testogel at the moment which is raising T and E but only every so slightly

Everything is bad but the fatigue in the daytime is like torture I fight not to fall asleep while stood up

 

[Serotoninja]

Have you read the PFS thread? I think Gbolduev's theory explains your case. Next time you get a blood test ask for progesterone and maybe estrone and estradiol, you will have a clearer picture of what's going on. PFS trials are promising, you can recover :)

 

[daniel1286]

Thanks for positivity bro!

I may ask for T3 next week to see if that improves fatigue too

 

[REOSIRENS]

High prolactin can be addressed with vitamin D Triiodothyronine Lithium Chloride Progesterone and dopamine agonist...and yes prolactin high = estrogen high ... Co2 therapy is good lowering prolactin

 

[daniel1286]

Guys ive noticed my libido and erections improve with alcohol and especially so the day after

Is this the alcohol increasing my estrogen????

 

[daniel1286]

Also fradon my cortisol saliva range came back slighty high in the morning but normal across the rest of the day following the correct rithym??

Shall I take Hydrocortisone? im unsure what to do with my adrenals???

 

[fradon]

Also fradon my cortisol saliva range came back slighty high in the morning but normal across the rest of the day following the correct rithym??

Shall I take Hydrocortisone? im unsure what to do with my adrenals???

no not if you don't need it...sounds like cortisol is fine. besides its adreanlin that is weak here linked to low T and low dopamine...your sympathetic dominant. you can do some vagus nerve excercises

gonna leave you some reading material

this one has good excerices for stimulating the parasympatheric system reduce stress and boost T...like very cold showers.
http://www.doctorschierling.com/blo...-nervous-system-and-control-your-inflammation

here in article that can give you some pointers about raising T and what are some lowT causes...good stuff at the bottom.
Low Testosterone Levels: What to Look for and what they Take to Solve


Adrenals and thyroid work together if your thyroid is low then it will make the adrenal sluggish. One cheap way to stimulate the thryoid is sunlight. get as much as you can since its free.

 

[daniel1286]

In that case Fradon would you supplement T3 given im in the bottom 15% of the range and my thyroid looks inflamed on an ultrasound?

Did you have any thoughts re alcohol increasing estrogen?

 

[daniel1286]

Hey Joe,

My Randro arrived but ive actually ordered Randro shred it seems

100mg androsterone
50mg 7-ketodhea

Are these what I should be taking bro?

 

[fradon]

In that case Fradon would you supplement T3 given im in the bottom 15% of the range and my thyroid looks inflamed on an ultrasound?

Did you have any thoughts re alcohol increasing estrogen?

for thyroid...get off public water which has both floride and chlorine which are both hallogens and they block thyroid. Use spring water or reverse osmosis filtered water from the store. Also avoid wheat flour breads and cakes as they use bromine to treat the flour and that is bad for thyroid. thryoid needs vitamin a, zinc, selenium...all can be found in a serving of calf liver or chicken liver. taking iodine when your thyroid is already inflamed my only make it worse so i would try to get iodine from food sources.

Probiotic Dairy is a good choice like probiotic yougurt... though don't do too much dairy because it is super high in estrogen but the probiotic yogurt will help your intestines and digestion. Avoid cheese high in estrogen and avoid milk. Eat a can of chunk light tuna a week and that will had selenium, iodine, zinc and it has lower toxins than yellow fin or chuck white tuna

beer has estrogen and raises estrogen. distilled spirits are bad for the adrenals and liver and they will shut you down since you already have adrenal problems.

avoid all depressants that is the last thing you want you want speed up your body not slow it down. Even over eating can be a depresseent and so can sugar. sugar stimulates you in the beginning then depresses when you crash.

 

[daniel1286]

Thanks Fradon - but all my sexual sides improve with a hangover, just wandered if that was because of the estrogen increase? Or perhaps only sleeping for a few hours im not sure?

 

[fradon]

Thanks Fradon - but all my sexual sides improve with a hangover, just wandered if that was because of the estrogen increase? Or perhaps only sleeping for a few hours im not sure?

yeah sleep depravation is an antidepressent...alcholol forces all the sugar out of the liver and stimulates dopamine.

estrogen will lower your libido not reiase it.

 

[daniel1286]

Yes but I have low estrogen so could that be the case that increasing it restores sexual function?

I had 6 vodka pineapples last night and 6 hours sleep and now had random firm erections all day

 

[JoeKool]

Hey Joe,

My Randro arrived but ive actually ordered Randro shred it seems

100mg androsterone
50mg 7-ketodhea

Are these what I should be taking bro?

Should be fine, i don't know the quality of that one but don't worry about that 7keto, it's likely not going to affect anything... I did 600mgs a day up to 900mgs a day... try a few days at 400 and then move to 600... see if you experience libido again... or alpha feeling which might just mean decent feeling mentally... for us

The daytime fatigue is likely cuz you're dealing with a chronic illness like PFS... sends cortisol and adrenaline all over the charts... DHT will help, in fact, it's likely needed with the testo gel to prevent so much of it converting to estrogen... you likely have unopposed estrogen that's making you feel crappy...

 

[daniel1286]

Cheers Joe nice one

 

[JoeKool]

i edited it , please note the last portion about DHT and testo gel