Does Anyone Know The Good Sources Of Testosterone Gel/cream ?

[japanesedude]

I am trying to apply low dose testosterone(~5mg) on testicles.
There are studies that low dose Testosterone applied on scrotum didn't shutdown after all and no Aromatization.

In Japan,Testogel is crazy expensive.so Im searching for cheaper sources that have global shipping(to japan)

 

[milk_lover]

I have a question.. why are you so fixated on those hormones? Why don't you follow a simple diet that increases metabolism and take little, I mean little, thyroid+preg+DHEA? Maybe by simply correcting thyroid, everything will fall into its place.

 

[milk_lover]

I believe in simplicity.. maybe you don't need the fancy stuff like DHT, keto DHT, testosterone, Andro, Gonadin, 5 alpha DHP, etc....

Thyroid, pregnenolone (progesterone for women), and DHEA are the starting points for hormonal positive equilibrium if done correctly and under the right circumstances..

 

[japanesedude]

Im using Pansterone and Androsterone together and got some good effects from it.
but it not enough.because it seems that Pregnenolone and DHEA both gave me Estrogen even with Androsterone.
When I use Pansterone,I start feel good about couple hours then I feel sad,depressed,irritate,angry,fatigue,anxiety, etc
I get all kinds of 'Estrogenic' effects from it even with Androsterone.
I do think that to buy Tyromix or Tyronene, but Pansterone and Androsterone both should imitate the thyroid gland.
Progesterone,11ketoDHT,testosterone gel what ever I will keep trying to until my problems got fixed.

 

[TubZy]

All saints clinic

 

[Jsaute21]

Im using Pansterone and Androsterone together and got some good effects from it.
but it not enough.because it seems that Pregnenolone and DHEA both gave me Estrogen even with Androsterone.
When I use Pansterone,I start feel good about couple hours then I feel sad,depressed,irritate,angry,fatigue,anxiety, etc
I get all kinds of 'Estrogenic' effects from it even with Androsterone.
I do think that to buy Tyromix or Tyronene, but Pansterone and Androsterone both should imitate the thyroid gland.
Progesterone,11ketoDHT,testosterone gel what ever I will keep trying to until my problems got fixed.

I suggest you use a high quality NDT product like tyromax or DR Rons. It has been said before by countless smart people on here but low T is usually the result of being hypothyroid. If you elevate your thyroid hormones, you will become more androgenic. It is a bit of a chicken/egg debate as studies prove that Andro/Pan are thyroid supportive & beneficial, but some people appear to need direct t4/t3. Also @milk_lover brings up great points regarding diet. Easily digestible foods, while hitting micronutrient requirements is paramount. Being fixated on supplements is fruitless i assure you.

 

[japanesedude]

I suggest you use a high quality NDT product like tyromax or DR Rons. It has been said before by countless smart people on here but low T is usually the result of being hypothyroid. If you elevate your thyroid hormones, you will become more androgenic. It is a bit of a chicken/egg debate as studies prove that Andro/Pan are thyroid supportive & beneficial, but some people appear to need direct t4/t3. Also @milk_lover brings up great points regarding diet. Easily digestible foods, while hitting micronutrient requirements is paramount. Being fixated on supplements is fruitless i assure you.

I know that Ray recommends 10-25 mcg of T3 daily in divided doses for hypothyroid people.
but Im little bit worried about possible side effects from Thyroids like muscle loss,heart palpitations. and What would happen when I stop taking thyroids? downregulation or something like that?

I eat 3 eggs for protein ,1 natto pack for K2 everyday. this is just my basic.
any recommendation?

 

[A.R]

I am trying to apply low dose testosterone(~5mg) on testicles.
There are studies that low dose Testosterone applied on scrotum didn't shutdown after all and no Aromatization.

In Japan,Testogel is crazy expensive.so Im searching for cheaper sources that have global shipping(to japan)

How much does it cost (testogel) in Japan?

 

[japanesedude]

Most popular product is alled 'グローミン’ http://www.daito-p.co.jp/product/glowmin.html
It contains 10 mg of testosterone in 1 g.　Guro-min　is a 10g tube.
Guro-min costs 3780 JPY .

 

[Jsaute21]

I know that Ray recommends 10-25 mcg of T3 daily in divided doses for hypothyroid people.
but Im little bit worried about possible side effects from Thyroids like muscle loss,heart palpitations. and What would happen when I stop taking thyroids? downregulation or something like that?

I eat 3 eggs for protein ,1 natto pack for K2 everyday. this is just my basic.
any recommendation?

Muscle loss from thyroid meds is unlikely. Should be quite the contrary. Also, t3 is tricky. I am someone that does better with NDT than t3 alone. NDT i look at as just a nutritional ad. Not a whole lot of risk. Healing takes time. Your not gonna go from Woody Allen to Tom Seleck in a week. Eating better and trying to optimize thyroid function should be your goal IMO.

Thyroid, grassfed New Zealand freeze-dried organs & glands, 180 capsules

 

[Constatine]

It really shouldn't be too difficult to raise your androgens. Have you tried high dose (high quality) vitamin A to raise testosterone? Often times liver with eggs in the morning plus oysters ever so often is enough to boost your testosterone and 5-are derived hormones.

 

[Jsaute21]

Most popular product is alled 'グローミン’ http://www.daito-p.co.jp/product/glowmin.html
It contains 10 mg of testosterone in 1 g.　Guro-min　is a 10g tube.
Guro-min costs 3780 JPY .

Also confused why you would risk suppression with artificial T, when Haidut offers so many supplements that would never suppress androgens unless irresponsibly abused.

 

[Ron J]

It really shouldn't be too difficult to raise your androgens. Have you tried high dose (high quality) vitamin A to raise testosterone? Often times liver with eggs in the morning plus oysters ever so often is enough to boost your testosterone and 5-are derived hormones.

What is high vitamin A supplementation to you? What do you think the real RDA is?

 

[trew]

mymexicandrugstore now has test gel

 

[Constatine]

What is high vitamin A supplementation to you? What do you think the real RDA is?

I think it is best to try different doses and see how you feel on it but to me high is around 50,000 iu.

 

[RKIII]

Don't apply Topical testosterone to your coinpurse.

Preparations have no ester attached and cause dramatic spikes in hormone levels that will leave leave you with too much estrogen (especially is applied on your scrotum).

The body senses that there is WAY too much T and aromatises it into estrogen to balance itself out.

 

[japanesedude]

Muscle loss from thyroid meds is unlikely. Should be quite the contrary. Also, t3 is tricky. I am someone that does better with NDT than t3 alone. NDT i look at as just a nutritional ad. Not a whole lot of risk. Healing takes time. Your not gonna go from Woody Allen to Tom Seleck in a week. Eating better and trying to optimize thyroid function should be your goal IMO.

Thyroid, grassfed New Zealand freeze-dried organs & glands, 180 capsules

Thx for your advice I'll try to eat better food. and will order Tyronene or Tyromix at first and stack with Androsterone,Kuinone or Pansterone to see some results.
taking thyroid should be help to convert DHEA and Preg to Androgen.

It really shouldn't be too difficult to raise your androgens. Have you tried high dose (high quality) vitamin A to raise testosterone? Often times liver with eggs in the morning plus oysters ever so often is enough to boost your testosterone and 5-are derived hormones.

Retinil must be good. I'll try it for sure.
liver and oysters sounds good.

mymexicandrugstore now has test gel

Thx I'll check it.

Don't apply Topical testosterone to your coinpurse.

Preparations have no ester attached and cause dramatic spikes in hormone levels that will leave leave you with too much estrogen (especially is applied on your scrotum).

The body senses that there is WAY too much T and aromatises it into estrogen to balance itself out.

The reason why Im trying to use low dose testogel is there is a study that shows low dose T applied on scrotum has no supression and less convertion to E.
I think that once haidut posted about this (I couldn't find it now)

 

[Lucenzo01]

Don't apply Topical testosterone to your coinpurse.

Preparations have no ester attached and cause dramatic spikes in hormone levels that will leave leave you with too much estrogen (especially is applied on your scrotum).

The body senses that there is WAY too much T and aromatises it into estrogen to balance itself out.

That's why everyone on T should take an AI with it. And it's the winning combo and works for everyone. Why do you thing AI's and T are so regulated?

 

[Brother John]

I am trying to apply low dose testosterone(~5mg) on testicles.
There are studies that low dose Testosterone applied on scrotum didn't shutdown after all and no Aromatization.

In Japan,Testogel is crazy expensive.so Im searching for cheaper sources that have global shipping(to japan)

You may want to check out Women's International Pharmacy in the USA. I think they add some progesterone too. Despited their name they sell stuff for males too.
Best of luck.
Brother John

 

[RKIII]

That's why everyone on T should take an AI with it. And it's the winning combo and works for everyone. Why do you thing AI's and T are so regulated?

Applying Test without an ester on your scrotum creates a very unstable environment in a short period of time.

If you take an AI you would have to front load it to be able to mitigate the flood of aromatising testosterone and then what?

The unestrufied test is out of your system in what ? 12 hours? Then you are just drilling your E2 levels into the ground because the AI is still in your system.

It is too big a rollar coaster ride. For too little payoff.