Covid Vaccine - Why Not - In Laymans Terms

ddjd

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A healthy young nurse in Portugal died two days later after taking the vaccine, a nursing two year old toddler in the US broke out in a rash on back torso and cheek, in Hamilton, ON, a young mother 27 year old needed CPR.
Sure it's safe and effective.
This vaccine is a joke.

The big question is who will take care of you if you get harmed?
Your family, friends, government?
Good luck with that one.
 

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1. they were never able to make a coronavirus vaccine before--why would they now?
2. most rushed vaccine in human history
3. moderna/pfizer use RNA technology, not traditional vaccine technology. Never before used in humans
4. Bell's Palsy and various anaphylaxis-like reactions including fainting. Unclear if these ever subside.
5. "leaky vaccine" -- could actually make the disease worse when you inevitably get COVID
 

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AITA for simply no longer explaining my reasoning to people about anything anymore?

'are you getting the vaccine?'
'nah'
'why not?'
'I don't want to'

I went through explaining myself enough when people kept asking me why I don't want a girlfriend. Explaining myself never led to any sort of progress, it only ever led to an hour of somebody annoyingly trying to convince me to change my opinion.
 

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AITA for simply no longer explaining my reasoning to people about anything anymore?

'are you getting the vaccine?'
'nah'
'why not?'
'I don't want to'

I went through explaining myself enough when people kept asking me why I don't want a girlfriend. Explaining myself never led to any sort of progress, it only ever led to an hour of somebody annoyingly trying to convince me to change my opinion.
Yep.
 

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Israel and UK are leading the way in vaccinations, they started exactly 1 month ago, but both these countries are now seeing a HUGE surge of new covid-19 cases and hospitalizations, more so than back in april 2020. Hospitals in the UK (especially in England) and in Israel are now being overwhelmed.

Those vaccines are creating new, unprecedented covid-19 surges beyond everything we have seen thus far.

Glad I'm seeing the link.
 

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And this cautionary tale: (from facebook: jennifer.hayes.376/posts/10223199165064111)

Jennifer Denton

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The last 8 days have been incredibly challenging. I had little interest in sharing the details of our lives publicly but through our experience is has become clear that information to help those suffering from the Covid Vaccine is minimal. Public groups to share experiences with the vaccine have been actively deleting posts describing my husbands experience as it doesn’t follow the message they want you to hear.
Before jumping in, I’d like clarify that my husband is a frontline worker in healthcare and has been serving his community in various ways for 10+ years. I’d also like
to say thank you to every single individual who has reached out to my husband and I to offer comfort and support. We appreciate you.
On December 26th my husband received the Moderna Covid Vaccine. Shortly after, he developed a slight fever and general exhaustion. The following day came with incredible challenges that resulted in my husband being bed ridden. Whole body exhaustion, incredibly high fevers, chills, headaches, nausea. He could barley pick his arm up...
Enter Monday, 12/28. On 1,000mg of Tylenol and 800mg of Motrin (ibuprofen) he was throwing temperatures higher than 104. I brought him to a local emergency room where he was told to treat his symptoms like Covid until proven otherwise... they gave him IV fluids and sent him on his way...
While waiting for his ultimately negative results (he does not have Covid) I called numerous urgent care centers who refused to see him, on-call doctors for ECHN who refused to provide medical advice over the phone to an ECHN patient (isn’t that their job?! Said doctor also informed me 104 fevers were not dangerous and the ice packs and cold cloths we were placing on his body were “only going to make me feel better and won’t do anything for him”.) We were left alone with minimal guidance from professionals in the field my husband has been working in for over a decade...
You may be thinking, why didn’t you call the vaccine hotline? We did. It was our first call. They picked up and said to report symptoms online for tracking purposes and then hung up. There was no guidance for treatment, no recommendations for who to seek help from... nothing more than “I hope you feel better”.
Fast forward a bit. Symptoms continued to worsen and I ultimately brought him to a privately held highly regarded emergency room in Hartford CT for further care. Without sharing specifics, I’ll share that my husband was and continues to be so incredibly ill, the hospital has been testing every potential cause for his symptoms which has included 20+ tests and counting:
- Countless X-rays,
- Multiple Ultrasounds,
- Spinal taps for meningitis, and
- Regular ongoing blood work for blood bacteria, to name a few.
Doctors and nurses from Infectious Disease have been consulting with each other to try and best identify potential trial treatments to see what works and what doesn’t. For now, he’s been given anti-bacterial medication in an attempt to relieve his symptoms.
My husband after four days still remains in the hands of caring, interested and well researched professionals who are the ONLY professionals who have taken a general interest in helping, researching and trying.
At the end of the day, I am beyond thankful for this privately held highly regarded Hartford based hospital but am very concerned about how little is being shared in regards to Covid vaccine symptoms and their severity. Two days ago I saw a big push to get the vaccine on the news with a tempting promise of a “normal fall” if we all get vaccinated... please take our experiences into consideration as you decide what is best for you and your family.
And if you’ve taken some time out of your day to read through this, please SHARE. There is little information available for those suffering. And if for any reason you become increasingly ill, please seek help from the best hospital you can as soon as you can.
If you have any questions regarding my husband, his experience or mine, please reach out. I want you to be armed with information about ALL side effects from the vaccine so you can make the best decisions for you and your families.
With every wish that you and yours stay safe and well,
Jen.
 

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And this cautionary tale: (from facebook: jennifer.hayes.376/posts/10223199165064111)

Good cautionary tale.

And no "vaccine" will return things to "normal." Only the roundup and imprisonment of Treasonous Governors, Mayors, and "Health" Officials in the US will do that. So long as any of them are drawing breath as free men, this insanity can continue.

Other countries will have to deal with their own treasonous leaders.
 
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Good cautionary tale.

And no "vaccine" will return things to "normal." Only the roundup and imprisonment of Treasonous Governors, Mayors, and "Health" Officials in the US will do that. So long as any of them are drawing breath as free men, this insanity can continue.

Other countries will have to deal with their own treasonous leaders.
And as a reminder keep the Jesuit order in the forefront. They are at the helm. Knights of templar used to be their name. They controlled banking initially and still do. Part of the agenda is to change the monetary system with them again, in control. Look at the face of it all, they are jesuit educated. Let's remind ourselves of the last "pandemic" type operation in 2001. Bush et all. Need I say more...
 
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When I'm asked why I won't get one of the covid vaccines, I just answer that I apply the same standards to it as to each and every other medication. And that means it should be in use for at least 20 years (better would be 40 or 50 years) so one can assess its safety.

It's a general rule about drugs that I've got from Dr. Peat. Here is the interview where he explains that. (Pls listen from 25:01 to 27:04)


(To be honest, I might make an exception for a vaccine if there was a real deadly virus. You know, one just everyone drops dead from, like in the movies. But I don't consider the corona virus to be that deadly. I believe that you can counter its effects with a combination of safe drugs like cyproheptadine, emodin, etc. in addition to vitamins and minerals.)
 
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I would reply, "I'm waiting for the clinical trials to be completed."

This mass vaccination is the largest clinical trials ever undertaken.
 

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Hi All,

I wondered if anyone could help me by outlining why not to get a vaccine, in laymen terms.

Specifically, why would one choose not to get the covid vaccine.

Ive listened to Peat, Haidut and follow Roddy on the subject but am struggling to form a narrative or response when asked why I am opposed to it.

What do you guys typically respond with.

Thank you!
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Not debatable, simple facts: This is a completely brand-new vaccine platform never used on humans outside of trials, so all prior vaccine safety arguments are irrelevant. As a new platform, it logically follows that there is ZERO long-term safety data - no one can debate that fact. Over 100,000 people in the USA die every year from "fully tested" drugs, used in accordance with label instructions (see Barbara Starfield). This vaccine was given Emergency Use Authorization, and the manufacturers have zero liability.
 

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Specifically, why would one choose not to get the covid vaccine.

Thinking about this, it's really a weird way to ask a question.

No one ever asked me why I choose not to buy a Rolls Royce.
No one ever asked me why I choose not to live under the ocean.
No one ever asked me why I choose not to work for Enron.
No one ever asked me why I choose not to travel to Jupiter.

So the Covid vaccine is the only thing I have to defend a (default) choice of NOT taking it?
 

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Israel and UK are leading the way in vaccinations, they started exactly 1 month ago
but both these countries are now seeing a HUGE surge of new covid-19 cases and hospitalizations, more so than back in april 2020. Hospitals in the UK (especially in England) and in Israel are now being overwhelmed.

Visualise my surprise.
 

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Israel and UK are leading the way in vaccinations, they started exactly 1 month ago, but both these countries are now seeing a HUGE surge of new covid-19 cases and hospitalizations, more so than back in april 2020. Hospitals in the UK (especially in England) and in Israel are now being overwhelmed.

Have you checked it? Are there really more hospitalizations than normally during this time of the year? I am asking because in Germany we hear it every day in the news, while there is nothing really going on. There are critical people who check the official registers regularly and make nice graphs. What you see is that the number of alleged covid cases in hospitals increases, while the total number of hospitalizations remains constant, and the hospitals are nowhere near collapsing. And by the way, the news report every year of hospitals near collapse.

Spanish newspapers report of huge outbreaks in Spanish care homes. Some outbreaks occurred a couple of days after the residents and the staff got vaccinated. In other cases they have not yet started to vaccinate the residents in those particular care homes. I stopped searching for information when I read that in one care home 92 out of 94 residents are infected. This just makes no sense! It's a lab epidemic.
 

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AstraZeneca has disclosed the adjuvants if its non-mRNA vax.

Doesn’t look too bad in comparison. No Aluminum, no emulsifiers apart from polysorbat 80
 
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