“Sophie’s Choice”: Jab or Containment Camp. With Ray’s Response.

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They are ripping a screaming girl out of her father's arms and pinning her to the floor, with 3-4 of them grabbing her limbs, and nurses appear to be doing some procedure on her. Her father is swarmed like a prisoner in a jail by guards obviously eager to smother him. And you think this is all done on someone losing custody of a kid from a divorce? I did not know nurses got involved in custody battles.

I was once a security guard in a hospital in my college days. We almost weekly had to hog tie men who came through ER high on PCP to gurneys, but NEVER did we ever come close to doing something like this to distressed people, which we surely had our share of. We talked them out of it if they misbehaved.

I knew someone was going to come up with a completely absurd rationalization for the medical Gestapo behavior here. Nobody reads history anymore showing the evil human beings can do to others when they have the power to do so. Sigh...
And also, why is it always going back to the gestapo, the evil Germans, etc. If the western foundational myth is that the allies destroyed an inherently evil enemy, and that the victors and survivors of that war built and rule the society of today, doesn’t that make you question the narrative a bit? What is the excuse for the situation today, then?

I’m a little tired of people trying to pigeon hole me or acting exasperated when I start asking questions about things. On both sides.

I admit, the way you responded in italics to me as if the images in the video must obviously depict the narrative which you are emotionally invested in, is highly annoying. As if I should be expected to recognize something so obvious to you and that it’s obscene or something for me to ask for more information.

At risk of being guilty of projecting myself, too, I think there’s a big cognitive dissonance going on with both “sides” here. I can’t quite put my finger on it but it doesn’t look good. I made a post about this just now if you want to read further on it.
 
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I live in the middle of thousands of acres of wooded mountainous terrain and know all of it like the back of my hand. Let them come. Just like the local anti-fascist resistance raped the nazi-fascists during that war, we will do the same with these modern-day nazis.
I think the same types of people who came up with the term “Nazi” are the ones you claim to be willing to stand against. The insistence on referencing back to ww2 era Germans is really weird. I see it everywhere.
 

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This happened in Australia. Get a preview of what will occur routinely in US, whether under Joe or Kamala. Cops ripping kids from unwilling parent's arms while nurses force needles into screaming kids. One wonders, if the kids live long enough, the long term psychological and permanent traumas this will induce in them. (VIDEO):

Satanic Oz Cops Take Little Girl From Father To Force Her To Take Kill Shots - Australia Is Pure Communists Hell On Earth Now - Warning This Is Devastating To Watch
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Look at the dissonance in the caption of the video (“shure” lol) and what you are claiming it is about. Why are you so willing and ready to believe things?
 

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You mean like Stalin's gulags or FDR's internment camps? Or do those not count?
There were camps in Canada and USA for the Japanese too. This fixation on Germans during ww2 is disheartening in a way because people like this claim to be the resistance but the resistance is borne out of foundational myths propagated by the same institutions these ppl are claiming to stand against. It’s funny, and sad.
 
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The insistence on referencing back to ww2 era Germans is really weird. I see it everywhere.

Because people have 10 years of schooling where NAZIS = BAD. DON'T BE A NAZI is drilled into them.

Never a mention of the holodomor, the killing fields of Cambodia or other atrocities
 

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I think we are polar opposites.
Im a discernible intuitive. Who can be quite a b**** at times.
You present much more pragmatic- with a sprinkling of self righteous **** in the mix.

Last year I was with my husband for a surgical procedure in a large hospital system.
Unallowed to be with him pre op or post op- I waited the day in the visitors waiting room- with all the good little sheeple.
I ended up getting escorted out of the hospital by two obese hospital staff over not wearing my mask in the outdoor atrium.

I also get corrected or asked daily about my vaxx status or my mask wearing practices when I go out for my job.

This is insanity to me.
Well, it certainly wasn't normal prior to 2020, but those examples are fairly common since. I have avoided hospitals (and now anything that stems from the NIH/CDC/FDA), and have been working from home the entire time, so I haven't had your experiences. I still go out plenty, and don't get those questions when I go for walks, shopping, or even travelling.
Did you read @catan account of a nine year old boy being isolated out of parental fear?
No.
Im dealing with that ethos in our public school board and about 80% of the parents here as well. Yes. 80%. That number is correct.
Okay, so then pull your child(ren) out of public school. Why are you letting the state indoctrinate them? Private and home schooling is always an option, and more people are opting for those now more than previous decades. It may be a fairly big change, but if you are worried about "death camps," this should be an easy choice in the interim.
Lastly, did I hear incorrectly about the US and ammunition availability or sales?
Like you- I dont watch TV or have social media- but did hear from a credible source.
This was in the last 48 hours.
So your points are good - but things are changing at fever pitch.
I have no idea what you heard, so I can't comment. You can always try to buy, and see what happens.
 

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Because people have 10 years of schooling where NAZIS = BAD. DON'T BE A NAZI is drilled into them.

Never a mention of the holodomor, the killing fields of Cambodia or other atrocities
I remember kids in elementary school telling me Hitler hated anyone without blonde hair and blue eyes, and even then it was weird hearing the indoctrination even before we had started our history unit. So their parents or some other friend or family were feeding them this info even before they got into school. It’s very neurotic to fixate on Germans from that era like this constantly.
 

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What are these videos out of Afghanistan showing? Food shortages?

Have not seen many about food shortages (yet), but that is not the main point. The point is the Afghanistan videos show what happens when the illusion of society (there or here) collapses overnight. People stampeding each other to death, crushing children/babies/etc trying to get onto a plane that is already full, fighting over food at the local market, ratting each other out to authorities hoping they will be spared (false hope - the Taliban shoot both the informant and the person they turned in), etc.
 

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Bull. They literally don't have the authority or resources to do that.

There's only about 2 Million people in the military, and they are spread out all over the world.. There's probably a similar number of law enforcement officers. The US has the most people in prison of any country in the world, both by absolute numbers, and per capita. That number is only 2.3 Million.

Why do you think all people in the military and law enforcement would just go along with such a herding plan? Even if they did, they still don't have the numbers to be successful.

And you forget, there are more guns than people in the US (at least going by "official" population numbers), over 340 Million, the vast majority in the hands of private citizens.

There are not enough "containment camps" to house 100, 200, or even 300 Million people in the US. And personally, I doubt they have an efficient "extermination" plan.

I think the "vaxxed" numbers are inflated, but why would you think even the vaxxed would just stand by and let their friends/family/neighbors just be imprisoned in this way?
@tankasnowgod the voice of reason that I draw upon during this insane moment in history. Thank you for this post. BTW...how do you think this whole thing will eventually play out for the US and for the world? Just speculation - curious as to your thoughts?
 

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Have not seen many about food shortages (yet), but that is not the main point. The point is the Afghanistan videos show what happens when the illusion of society (there or here) collapses overnight. People stampeding each other to death, crushing children/babies/etc trying to get onto a plane that is already full, fighting over food at the local market, ratting each other out to authorities hoping they will be spared (false hope - the Taliban shoot both the informant and the person they turned in), etc.
Interesting, especially that last comment about taliban shooting informant too. Got any more info on that?
 

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Why not just say you've been vaccinated if asked? That is the line of least resistance. Why protest too much and draw attention to yourselves? I don't get it. Sure it's a lie but why open a whole can o' worms? Up until now I have replied truthfully and just say "no" and when asked why not I explain patiently about the mRNA but if the situation becomes dire like some of you are describing, I will just stay in my local community and say "yes" I've had the jab. No need to get on any planes nor be mandated.
Because they are keeping track. That's what vaccine passports are all about. You're not going to lie your way out of this. Proof of vaccination will soon be incorporated into the vax itself because of future outbreaks that will [falsely] be attributed to forged papers and/or liars.
 

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They are ripping a screaming girl out of her father's arms and pinning her to the floor, with 3-4 of them grabbing her limbs, and nurses appear to be doing some procedure on her. Her father is swarmed like a prisoner in a jail by guards obviously eager to smother him. And you think this is all done on someone losing custody of a kid from a divorce? I did not know nurses got involved in custody battles.

I was once a security guard in a hospital in my college days. We almost weekly had to hog tie men who came through ER high on PCP to gurneys, but NEVER did we ever come close to doing something like this to distressed people, which we surely had our share of. We talked them out of it if they misbehaved.

I knew someone was going to come up with a completely absurd rationalization for the medical Gestapo behavior here. Nobody reads history anymore showing the evil human beings can do to others when they have the power to do so. Sigh...
She looks too young to be eligible for the covid vaccine. I don't think they're vaccinating younger than 16 yet.
 

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Because they are keeping track. That's what vaccine passports are all about. You're not going to lie your way out of this. Proof of vaccination will soon be incorporated into the vax itself because of future outbreaks that will [falsely] be attributed to forged papers and/or liars.
I think forging documentation will be reasonably accomplishable.
 

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I think forging documentation will be reasonably accomplishable.
That's why proof will be in the form of quantum dot tattoos, or perhaps the proof will be in the vaccine itself ... scannable through your skin - not forgeable. This has already been laid out and is definitely coming.
 

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As we look at the future- we may have a very important choice in front of us.

To choose the jab- or be taken to a “safe containment camp” (FEMA death camp).

ive been sorting through the reality of this for a few weeks now. Im a mother- which is a giant factor in this for me.

I wrote Ray; asked if he was comfortable directing me. He was quick to respond.

I created this thread to offer hope, not fear.

My decision was solidified today- and to the camp I will choose to go.
I believe many of you will choose the same.


RAY’S RESPONSE:

I will choose the “quarantine camp."
I think people should use all available methods to resist the mandated RNA vaccine—including any special health problems. Since all the state and US departments of health have refused to reveal the evidence justifying their declaration of an emergency and the need for the various mandates, their claims to be guided by “science” can’t be validated. The extreme censorship of many of the most qualified virologists and epidemiologists in the world implies that the government’s failure to provide concrete evidence is because they have none, and can’t allow the actual evidence to be widely heard.


Michael Yeadon:

View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/9enapGHu7UmI/


Peter McCullough:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM


View: https://rumble.com/vk5jd0-dr.-peter-mccullough-urgent-warning-about-poisonous-jabs-an-agonizing-situa.html


David Martin:

View: https://rumble.com/vk2bya-exclusive-dr.-david-martin-just-ended-covid-fauci-doj-politicians-in-one-in.html


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_uSZAWQmMM

DR DAVID MARTIN & REINER FUELLMICH: EVIDENCE FROM PATENTS THAT FAUCI, GOVTS, AND MEDIA ARE LYING

Richard Fleming:
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Sucharit Bhakdi:
An Urgent Message from Professor Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi [July 9, 2021] - FactCheckVaccine.com
DR. SUCHARIT BHAKDI INTERVIEW – COVID VACCINE BLOOD CLOT RISK WAS KNOWN, IGNORED & BURIED (MIRRORED)


Astrid Stuckelberger:
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“Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.” – Robert F. Kennedy

It's literally the Mark of the Beast. These are the endtimes my friend. Got Jesus? its Worse than You think full documentary
 

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I would like to bring some hope to this discussion. I think it only takes a few individuals in a society who stand their ground, to start turning the ship around. People have been anticipating a techno-authoritarian surveillance control system and building technologies to defend against the onslaught for decades. Technologies like online private websites and browsing (TOR), private money/banking (bitcoin), cryptography (PGP), home servers for hosting services like encrypted chat, photo storage, passwords, etc. Most online cloud based data storage can be decentralized and run from home. Get connected to the communities who are implementing these technologies and start participating.

If you want a good background on some of this, here is a good documentary series available for free
View: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBuns9Evn1w-T2RwqMhUnTZbTTe-M-g42


some links for those interested:
www.start9.com
www.bitcoin.org (please avoid all "trading bitcoin" videos on youtube, bitcoin is not about trading, its about op-out money)

Also the book written in the 90s, The Sovereign Individual predicted how politics and society would be reshaped by the technology of the microprocessor, they predicted the end of governments as we know it. They saw large centralized governments as we have now crumbling and being eventually replaced by city states, i.e. smaller and more numerous governments, decentralisation. The book predicted the emergence of an internet cryptographic money that was outside of government that was critical to this decentralisation process. Amazing since bitcoin was only published in 2009.

Anyway, in my mind the future is bright and I believe there is much to be hopeful for. Money is really where the control is, once the people have access to good money, that is not able to be devalued, or transactions censored, we will see the ship turning around. It is actually already happening. In Nigeria for example 30% of the population uses bitcoin even though the government banned it.
 

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