Hey, Anybody Hear About This? It Increases Nitric Oxide

[FocusedOnHealth]

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I heard it’s supposed to be good for you.

what does increasing Nitric Oxide do for you?

 

[Lollipop2]

Search the forum for nitric oxide threads. They contain answers to your question…hint not a good thing to increase.

 

[FocusedOnHealth]

Search the forum for nitric oxide threads. They contain answers to your question…hint not a good thing to increase.

Thanks. Yeah, I didn’t do any search.

 

[FocusedOnHealth]

Search the forum for nitric oxide threads. They contain answers to your question…hint not a good thing to increase.

Ok so why are they advertising this then like it’s supposed to be good for you?

 

[Lollipop2]

Thanks. Yeah, I didn’t do any search.

? I only popped in for a few minutes or I would look them up for you. Good luck!

 

[Lollipop2]

Ok so why are they advertising this then like it’s supposed to be good for you?

Welcome to the world. Remember how they are advertising that low carb no sugar is good for you? Canola oil is good for you? Soy is good for you? And on and on and on…

 

[FocusedOnHealth]

Welcome to the world. Remember how they are advertising that low carb no sugar is good for you? Canola oil is good for you? Soy is good for you? And on and on and on…

Yeah but they are comparing it to L arginine and I thought that was supposed to be good for you

 

[GTW]

There is a sweet spot for most nutrients. For example, selenium and iodine are toxic at high doses and deficiency can also be deadly. Providing the NO sources allows self-regulation in most cases.

 

[𝙁𝙧𝙪𝙞𝙩~𝙩𝙚𝙚]

Yeah but they are comparing it to L arginine and I thought that was supposed to be good for you

View: https://youtu.be/8JnpNwFnicU

 

[FocusedOnHealth]

There is a sweet spot for most nutrients. For example, selenium and iodine are toxic at high doses and deficiency can also be deadly. Providing the NO sources allows self-regulation in most cases.

Thanks, so in other words, it’s good to take if you are low in certain things?

 

[FocusedOnHealth]

View: https://youtu.be/8JnpNwFnicU

Thanks for posting. Gunna watch

 

[GTW]

Thanks, so in other words, it’s good to take if you are low in certain things?

Taking nutritional supplements that increase NO when/where needed for arterial flexibility/dilation, anti-inflammatory and decongestant effects is unlikely to cause excess NO. Taking a nitroglycerin tablet if you don't have angina would be a different story.
Beets, spinach, arugula are NO agonists.

 

[FocusedOnHealth]

Taking nutritional supplements that increase NO when/where needed for arterial flexibility/dilation, anti-inflammatory and decongestant effects is unlikely to cause excess NO. Taking a nitroglycerin tablet if you don't have angina would be a different story.
Beets, spinach, arugula are NO agonists.

Well, this product I posted is supposedly made from:

 

[GTW]

The usual suspects. A bowl of borscht with sour cream would be more satisfying.

 

[FocusedOnHealth]

The usual suspects. A bowl of borscht with sour cream would be more satisfying.

You are probably right.

 

[ww3not4me]

Depends who you believe. Dr. Ray Peat or thousands of other researchers. Ever hear about PDE5's? Not only do they improve erectile function but they lower blood pressure, raise testosterone, restore circulation to various parts of the body like the brain, improve heart function, fight hypoxia. They can be used in kidney disease, BPH, heart disease, diabetes and other situations. They do this primarily by increasing Nitric Oxide. Beet juice does this as well. Mildronate does this as well. Nitric Oxide is produced by the endothelium and is a vasodilator so it relaxes smooth muscles in your blood vessels to lower allow blood to flow better and lowers blood pressure. Nitric Oxide reduces insulin resistance induced by high fructose feeding in wait for it... lab mice. I know not a human study. I do not know that I would lump nitric oxide as bad. If you think Dr. Ray Peat has everything 100% correct you have ruled out the idea that he could be wrong and that no future science will upturn his current believes and leave no room for error. We do not call that science we call it religion, dogma or maybe ideology. The problem we find ourselves in in the last 3 years is that we can not question the science or those that have interpreted the science for us. We can not ask old questions or new questions that violate the current narrative! Medicine did include leeches, maggots', sugar and bread poultices and mustard plasters. Some of those are making a come back in wound care. Gone are the days of drinking kerosene and whisky which was actually what we would today call Turpentine and whisky.

Dr. Ray Peat includes fructose to lower Nitric Oxide because he thinks it is bad. I would listen to Dr Ray Peat and then I would listen to his critics and see what you think. Try it Ray Peats way first and see if you get the desired outcome if not try something else. If you are anyplace where you fill you can not question something run away as fast as you can because science is not science if it can not be questioned! You always have to try it before you can denounce it as not working for you. If you do not try a diet or lifestyle first you have no clue if it is valid or not or will work. Always try it as designed before you start deviating or picking what you want from it Ala Carte!

I would also say that if the body makes it and it is a very needed part of a system it can not be bad for you if it is in balance and the rest of the body is in balance. People that paint with a broad brush about things the human body makes internally for it's own maintenance are silly. In Dr. Ray Peats case he is very specific if you read his articles. If his specific examples do not fit you than his advice is not meant for you. Kind of like you would not put a tourniquet on someone not bleeding out from a deep wound it is not that tourniquets are evil or bad as tool but they have a very specific use with some very serious adverse outcomes if used when not needed.

So now as I always like to ask why do you think you need more nitric oxide and what do you hope to improve or achieve? For some reason almost no one ever includes this key bit of info. Just like when they say they have had or experienced some rather rare thing they never tell us if this was diagnosed by a medical doctor with proper diagnostic tools or if they self diagnostic after reading an article on the internet or in a magazine! Especially when someone has 2 or 3 really rare nutritional issues either too much of or too little of various nutrients. Little too common on this site it defies statically norms.

If your not deficient or in a disease state that can be helped by a thing seldom does taking more of something just magickly help anyone. Often taking to much of something if you have no need for it can often be a very bad thing. Even clean wholesome water if taken in excess can kill you!

I hope this helps and we can help you figure out a path that will be helpful! Question everyone and everything thing!

 

[FocusedOnHealth]

Depends who you believe. Dr. Ray Peat or thousands of other researchers. Ever hear about PDE5's? Not only do they improve erectile function but they lower blood pressure, raise testosterone, restore circulation to various parts of the body like the brain, improve heart function, fight hypoxia. They can be used in kidney disease, BPH, heart disease, diabetes and other situations. They do this primarily by increasing Nitric Oxide. Beet juice does this as well. Mildronate does this as well. Nitric Oxide is produced by the endothelium and is a vasodilator so it relaxes smooth muscles in your blood vessels to lower allow blood to flow better and lowers blood pressure. Nitric Oxide reduces insulin resistance induced by high fructose feeding in wait for it... lab mice. I know not a human study. I do not know that I would lump nitric oxide as bad. If you think Dr. Ray Peat has everything 100% correct you have ruled out the idea that he could be wrong and that no future science will upturn his current believes and leave no room for error. We do not call that science we call it religion, dogma or maybe ideology. The problem we find ourselves in in the last 3 years is that we can not question the science or those that have interpreted the science for us. We can not ask old questions or new questions that violate the current narrative! Medicine did include leeches, maggots', sugar and bread poultices and mustard plasters. Some of those are making a come back in wound care. Gone are the days of drinking kerosene and whisky which was actually what we would today call Turpentine and whisky.

Dr. Ray Peat includes fructose to lower Nitric Oxide because he thinks it is bad. I would listen to Dr Ray Peat and then I would listen to his critics and see what you think. Try it Ray Peats way first and see if you get the desired outcome if not try something else. If you are anyplace where you fill you can not question something run away as fast as you can because science is not science if it can not be questioned! You always have to try it before you can denounce it as not working for you. If you do not try a diet or lifestyle first you have no clue if it is valid or not or will work. Always try it as designed before you start deviating or picking what you want from it Ala Carte!

I would also say that if the body makes it and it is a very needed part of a system it can not be bad for you if it is in balance and the rest of the body is in balance. People that paint with a broad brush about things the human body makes internally for it's own maintenance are silly. In Dr. Ray Peats case he is very specific if you read his articles. If his specific examples do not fit you than his advice is not meant for you. Kind of like you would not put a tourniquet on someone not bleeding out from a deep wound it is not that tourniquets are evil or bad as tool but they have a very specific use with some very serious adverse outcomes if used when not needed.

So now as I always like to ask why do you think you need more nitric oxide and what do you hope to improve or achieve? For some reason almost no one ever includes this key bit of info. Just like when they say they have had or experienced some rather rare thing they never tell us if this was diagnosed by a medical doctor with proper diagnostic tools or if they self diagnostic after reading an article on the internet or in a magazine! Especially when someone has 2 or 3 really rare nutritional issues either too much of or too little of various nutrients. Little too common on this site it defies statically norms.

If your not deficient or in a disease state that can be helped by a thing seldom does taking more of something just magickly help anyone. Often taking to much of something if you have no need for it can often be a very bad thing. Even clean wholesome water if taken in excess can kill you!

I hope this helps and we can help you figure out a path that will be helpful! Question everyone and everything thing!

I agree with you. That’s why I posted the thread in the first place. I didn’t know much about it but I had heard it is good for blood circulation, and in this day of being around vaxx injected people, I thought it might be a good thing to try. But again, no one has all the answers for everything. It‘s good to consider all sides of the equasion, and different people’s opinions.

 

[ww3not4me]

It is confusing because there too many experts with too many studies some great some bad. You have to pay to read complete studies and that can get expensive. Some people stack up studies knowing that your will not have access to all of them, most people will not read them and even fewer will understand what they read. So stacking up 20 or 30 or more studies is comical sometimes because it is more window dressing then it is substance even if it all supportive and of value. If I put up 20 studies that proved that the vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 is safe and effective and no I do not believe that this site would go nuts and would refute all of those studies as fraudulent. Sadly who says a thing matters more than what is being said some times! Again I do not think the vaccine is effective or safe. Used that to make a point only.

That is why I said try it Dr. Ray Peats way and if you do not get results try something else.

I would not take a supplement unless it has been tested and determined to produce empirical results. If you do not need more nitric oxide more does you little good.

I know nothing about these supplement that claim to increase it. Again what do you think is not working in your body that would benefit from more nitric oxide? What makes you think any supplement you put into your body will directly raise it or that your should raise it?

The body is already making or has the means to make Nitric Oxide no one is talking about diffusing a gas into the blood from an external source. If your enzymatic pathways that God designed and built into the body are not working right trying to get them working properly is not a bad thing. We are not talking about outsmarting the body we are talking about giving the body what it needs to function properly with food stuff. I do not think that the body comes with extra's that are not needed. If we have them they should work correctly.


L-arginine is an amino acid that helps the body build protein. Your body usually makes all the L-arginine it needs. L-arginine is also found in most protein-rich foods, including fish, red meat, poultry, soy, whole grains, beans and dairy products. Cancers treatment is so far removed from normal health and normal cellular metabolism as to be comical to discus outside of using it as an example of abnormal cellular metabolism. Discussing nitric oxide in just one organ is just as comical. You have to look at the body as a whole if we go strictly by extremes we can make the case that lots of fructose causes type ii diabetes or encourages a fatty liver especialy in already obese individuals or people with abnormal cellular metabolism. We know fructose can cause people to absorb more iron but I am not going to tell people not to eat an apple or not to drink orange juice because it "might" cause a problem when billions of people consume fructose in moderation with no issues. No one is talking about diffusing nitric oxide into someone's blood from an external source. I do not think the OP mentioned L-arginine either let alone L-arginine IV infusions to fight cancer! They also did not ask about how nitric oxide behaves just in a single organ since the body is not one organ and every single inch of blood vessel in the body produces nitric oxide naturally. I guess now every single blood vessel which is lined with endothelium is now evil or does not know how to do it's job?

Now if your enzymes are out of wack and your body is not releasing the nitric oxide it already has the means to make when it should be releasing it I would think the people on this site would want to fix that broken enzymatic pathways? The body is far smarter than the person using it. Far better to keep the body healthy and let it do what it knows to be best for it. I thought this site was about fixing the body so it can natural heal itself not about trying to outsmart the body? What is next are we going to claim platelets and thrombocytes are bad because they can kill you just as easily as save you?

Just like the body makes hydrogen peroxide naturally in fact that is were hydrogen peroxide was first discovered! That does not mean we should all start drinking H2O2 and it like wise does not mean we should make it a villian just because it is likewise responsible for some of the ROS in the body! We definitely should not all start eating some plant in excess to try to shut down H2O2 production in the body.

What is broken? Why is it broken? Can we prove that it is broken? What can we try to fix it? If that does not work what do we try next? How can we test empirically if we are making a difference? Likewise we need to focus on the outcome we desire. B.S. like I want good health is too broad and not measurable. You have to have well defined goals that you can track/measure. I am trying to actively influence my fat mass and my HbA1c. I use a scale and a variety of glucose meters to track those. Every 90 days I get lab work done to track the other parts of my blood of interest too me. If I was trying trying to affect blood pressure or erectile quality or mood I would use other tools to measure and keep records. I am testing specific supplements and pharmaceuticals for 100 days and then testing.

Nutrients in large amounts often function just like a pharmaceutical at some point and that means they may or may not work for you and they might cause side affects that are not desired!

Anyone can look at the Kreb Cycle we all have to memorize in biology class and make pronouncements about how something should work and try to tweak it but the body is smart and crafty and has all kinds of limits set on all of the different pathways. Some things will work some of the time, some things will work none of the times and some of the things will work some of the time for some of the people but not all of the people. Acting as if they all work all of the time for all is just funny.

We do not want to be like the main stream media, CDC, WHO, most major university science departments. We want to be better than them. All of us should at the very least know that there are no absolutes in science or medicine and if you think there are than you deserve the world we have gotten in the last 3 years! Science changes and evolves and all questions need asking not just the approved questions!

I will say this. I have read many of Dr. Ray Peat's Articles which are very well written and sources cited they are terrible as a how to guide. Very few people could read those articles and put into practice the idea's they contain in a practical manner. I am thinking that people should maybe know he has books on diet and how to apply his ideas in a practical way not just his articles! I have Amazon so I looked and found his books there. So his articles are not the only way to get to know Dr. Ray Peats thoughts he has books as well that are much more "How to"!

If you have a juicer you might consider juicing a beet, its greens, a thumb of ginger, a lemon and either an apple or a carrot and drink this every day for a week. See if you like it and if it likes you. You might just find you have no need for any supplement. Be warned beets have a very earthy taste and can turn your urine and stool some shade of pink to red rather quickly.

I knew you would get pounced on the second I saw your questions! I also knew you would get a big fat "No". Your not even allowed to consider it if Ray Peat has already said it is bad it is bad and can not be questioned ever! LOL It is laughable that anyone would put nitric oxide down to just something for a mans erection. That might have been the driving force behind Viagra and PDE5's initially once that fact became apparent but we know a lot more now because of the money making windfall. PDE5's were originally being tested for high blood pressure! You might as well have opened up with "I hear orange juice is bad for you!"! LOL Again not saying oj is bad for you! The CNN crew on here will selectively edit what I said!

What ever you do keep us up to date. A negative result report is as valuable as a positive result report since it helps other's to decide if their results are typical or not.

 

[HeyThere]

Raising my Nitric Oxide saved MY life. I can only speak for MYSELF. Lifelong stress and panic attacks and bad life situations causing traumatic stress, endless... and then drinking a lot (I stopped drinking BTW as alcohol more than 1 shot will deplete your N.O. badly).

I experimented with taking L-Ornithine after reading an Amazon review where a guy said he felt better and more confident when taking it, that he didn't seem to care so much about every little thing to torture himself with. So I tried it with THAT in mind. I had no idea a SPECK, I mean a SPECK of it would give me the reaction I got *immediately* : (I must have been depleted in N.O. - I have MANY health issues, BTW - mostly Salicylate Intolerance which ruins everything with the body).... The CONSTANT pressure in the back of my head released, finally! I wondered if I had a tumor in my head or what the heck WAS that weird feeling that only released when I'd take a SPECK of pot (hint: little amounts of pot raise your Nitric Oxide). Next was this absolutely fascinating experience that only happened 2 or 3 times until the N.O. levels got back up in my system. I felt like cool water was going through my veins. This went on for a few minutes. Then I literally and clearly felt a swirling of hot and cold air in my deep sinuses. It was so amazing! THAT only happened once. No, I wasn't high. I rarely smoke, and if you knew what a speck of pot I do you'd insist there's no way it does anything to me at all (think the size of the "O" on your keyboard).

So whenever i feel tension in my neck, head and body, when I feel stressed and like I'm "stuck", I take L-Ornithine and it takes it away. The other week I experiented with taking much more than I usually do (still far below the allowed amount, I'm just highly sensitive) and my whole sinus felt really weird for a few days afterwards. As if it was all really open and burning a little. I noticed the inside of my nostril was bright red and it alarmed me, but I assumed that everything was hyper "open" as NO does to the blood vessles. Ever since then? My sinuses are SO CLEAR feeling, no constant every 5 seconds Kleenex needed to blow my nose, no snot, it's all so wild!

I tried L-Arginine and it made me feel weird. I also tried L-Citrulline and while much better, I find my body likes L-Ornithine best for some reason. The 3 are the different stages of turning into Nitric Oxide. I believe L-Ornithine is the 1st stage? OH, and anothe rthing I noticed 15 minutes after taking my 1st dode of it.. my skin on my legs felt softer. I have/had skin disorder where my dermatologist said I have "hard skin". I quickly did research to see if i was imagining things (I knew I wasn't) and sure enough, L-Ornithine/Nitric oxide strongly affects the skin.

My suggestion, and I am not a doctor, is to try a little, cheaply bought online - I did the powder version - and see if you feel better. Heck, they are selling $$$ N.O. boosters via "Beet Juice" and the danged things STILL have L-Arginine in them. Lots of vitamins and minerals boost N.O. I maybe have a defect that my N.O. is low randomly because I can take a vitamin or food that raises it and I can feel it within a minute. I'll ask "google" if that item raises N.O., and every time it does. It's a very loosening, freeing, light, open feeling I get in my head/sinus/neck/body.

God luck. You're mileage will vary. And TOO MUCH N.O. is very harmful lto cells. But you can also die from drinking too much water. So there's that

 

[HeyThere]

Raising my Nitric Oxide saved MY life. I can only speak for MYSELF. Lifelong stress and panic attacks and bad life situations causing traumatic stress, endless... and then drinking a lot (I stopped drinking BTW as alcohol more than 1 shot will deplete your N.O. badly).

I experimented with taking L-Ornithine after reading an Amazon review where a guy said he felt better and more confident when taking it, that he didn't seem to care so much about every little thing to torture himself with. So I tried it with THAT in mind. I had no idea a SPECK, I mean a SPECK of it would give me the reaction I got *immediately* : (I must have been depleted in N.O. - I have MANY health issues, BTW - mostly Salicylate Intolerance which ruins everything with the body).... The CONSTANT pressure in the back of my head released, finally! I wondered if I had a tumor in my head or what the heck WAS that weird feeling that only released when I'd take a SPECK of pot (hint: little amounts of pot raise your Nitric Oxide). Next was this absolutely fascinating experience that only happened 2 or 3 times until the N.O. levels got back up in my system. I felt like cool water was going through my veins. This went on for a few minutes. Then I literally and clearly felt a swirling of hot and cold air in my deep sinuses. It was so amazing! THAT only happened once. No, I wasn't high. I rarely smoke, and if you knew what a speck of pot I do you'd insist there's no way it does anything to me at all (think the size of the "O" on your keyboard).

So whenever i feel tension in my neck, head and body, when I feel stressed and like I'm "stuck", I take L-Ornithine and it takes it away. The other week I experiented with taking much more than I usually do (still far below the allowed amount, I'm just highly sensitive) and my whole sinus felt really weird for a few days afterwards. As if it was all really open and burning a little. I noticed the inside of my nostril was bright red and it alarmed me, but I assumed that everything was hyper "open" as NO does to the blood vessles. Ever since then? My sinuses are SO CLEAR feeling, no constant every 5 seconds Kleenex needed to blow my nose, no snot, it's all so wild!

I tried L-Arginine and it made me feel weird. I also tried L-Citrulline and while much better, I find my body likes L-Ornithine best for some reason. The 3 are the different stages of turning into Nitric Oxide. I believe L-Ornithine is the 1st stage? OH, and anothe rthing I noticed 15 minutes after taking my 1st dode of it.. my skin on my legs felt softer. I have/had skin disorder where my dermatologist said I have "hard skin". I quickly did research to see if i was imagining things (I knew I wasn't) and sure enough, L-Ornithine/Nitric oxide strongly affects the skin.

My suggestion, and I am not a doctor, is to try a little, cheaply bought online - I did the powder version - and see if you feel better. Heck, they are selling $$$ N.O. boosters via "Beet Juice" and the danged things STILL have L-Arginine in them. Lots of vitamins and minerals boost N.O. I maybe have a defect that my N.O. is low randomly because I can take a vitamin or food that raises it and I can feel it within a minute. I'll ask "google" if that item raises N.O., and every time it does. It's a very loosening, freeing, light, open feeling I get in my head/sinus/neck/body.

God luck. You're mileage will vary. And TOO MUCH N.O. is very harmful lto cells. But you can also die from drinking too much water. So there's that

Sorry, rushing typing due to leaving the house soon. Tried fixing typos and just left the rest LOL.