Vitamin D effective in humans for preventing autoimmune diseases

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A human study, one of the largest ever conducted, and covering virtually all major autoimmune conditions. Also, the study claims that this is the first intervention trial that looked at effects of vitamin D on developing autoimmune conditions, so the link is causal - i.e. we can now claim that taking vitamin D does prevent autoimmune diseases, while in the past all the evidence was from observational/epidemiological trials. The other interesting finding of the study was that the dosage of vitamin D used was quite low - i.e. 2,000 IU daily. Considering the widespread vitamin D deficiency (and even insufficiency) in the general population, a dosage of 5,000 IU - 10,000 IU would have been much more appropriate, even if taken only during the fall/winter seasons. Multiple human studies have demonstrated that such higher doses are required in order to correct the deficiency/insufficiency during the fall/winter season, and in overweight/obese people this higher dose may be needed even during spring/summer due to the higher "volume of distribution" of the vitamin in such people, as well as its preferential storage of vitamin D in fat tissue. Finally, while the popular press articles conveniently neglect to mention it, the study also found that taking omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) was NOT effective in preventing the development of autoimmune conditions. In fact, taking the omega-3 together with vitamin D negated the protective effects of the latter, so hopefully this study would give serious pause to dietitians/doctors who still recommend/prescribe this toxic PUFA industrial waste.

Vitamin D and marine omega 3 fatty acid supplementation and incident autoimmune disease: VITAL randomized controlled trial
"...Conclusions Vitamin D supplementation for five years, with or without omega 3 fatty acids, reduced autoimmune disease by 22%, while omega 3 fatty acid supplementation with or without vitamin D reduced the autoimmune disease rate by 15% (not statistically significant). Both treatment arms showed larger effects than the reference arm (vitamin D placebo and omega 3 fatty acid placebo)."

Vitamin D supplements really do reduce risk of autoimmune disease
"...Vitamin D supplements really do prevent people developing an autoimmune disease, at least for those over 50, in a study providing the first evidence of a causal link between the two. Previous studies on the effect of vitamin D on autoimmune conditions have looked at vitamin D levels in those with an autoimmune disease or in those who go on to develop one. Other studies have hinted at the supplement’s beneficial effects on the immune system. “We know vitamin D does all kinds of wonderful things for the immune system in animal studies,” says Karen Costenbader at the Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston. “But we have never proven before that giving vitamin D can prevent autoimmune disease.” Costenbader and her colleagues randomly split nearly 26,000 people in the US who were 50 or over into two groups, giving them either vitamin D supplements or a placebo. “The great thing about randomised trials is they really answer the question of causation,” says Costenbader. The team tracked the participants for around five years to measure the development of autoimmune conditions, including rheumatoid arthritis, autoimmune thyroid disease and psoriasis. This revealed that a dose of 2000 international units (IU) of vitamin D per day reduced the development of autoimmune disease by 22 per cent, compared with the placebo. This is a larger dose than the standard 400 IU recommended by health organisations such as the UK’s Department of Health and Social Care."
 

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Hmmm, the 1st one ("VITAL"), at least, is very sneaky. They've akshually wanted to show that omega-3 fatty acid supplementation works. In order to accomplish this they've made a VD+Omega3 combo---which, by the way, was more prevalent in terms of how many participants taking it in their 2by2 factor analysis. But supposingly they've controlled for this too.

Anyhow, to see that Omega3 is bogus and VD is king one has to drill down into their Table 4 and see past their 'probable autoimmune disease definition'. So I doubt that this study "would give serious pause to dietitians/doctors who still recommend/prescribe this toxic PUFA industrial waste.", who also typically do not go for the source in the modern spirit of infomercials.

Let's hope that this study won't arm more the pro-PUFAists... :drowning:

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Very good find. @haidut , do you think autoimmune diseases are merely poor immune response and chronic infection/leaky gut due to lack of vitamins A and D, magnesium etc? The body uses all its resources on fighting viral/bacterial load and the already small reserves of nutrients gets depleted, leading to hypometabolism and thus even more chance to foreign invaders to further go around the body and replicate
 

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Hmmm, the 1st one ("VITAL"), at least, is very sneaky. They've akshually wanted to show that omega-3 fatty acid supplementation works. In order to accomplish this they've made a VD+Omega3 combo---which, by the way, was more prevalent in terms of how many participants taking it in their 2by2 factor analysis. But supposingly they've controlled for this too.

Anyhow, to see that Omega3 is bogus and VD is king one has to drill down into their Table 4 and see past their 'probable autoimmune disease definition'. So I doubt that this study "would give serious pause to dietitians/doctors who still recommend/prescribe this toxic PUFA industrial waste.", who also typically do not go for the source in the modern spirit of infomercials.

Let's hope that this study won't arm more the pro-PUFAists... :drowning:

This doesn't seem clear cut but I didn't read the study, only replying to your quick summary fwiw.

2 of the "definite" categories have the lowest hazard ratios with (Vit D placebo) - (omega 3 active), which implies a win for omega3.

Take the rheumatoid arthritis "definite" category. It has the lowest hazard ratio by far .23 for both of them active...much better than either alone, .85 for each.

This study at least is mixed judging from this table

edit: "definite autoimmune thyroid" disease is another big win for Omega 3 active alone. I don't know whats going on here.
 

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This doesn't seem clear cut but I didn't read the study, only replying to your quick summary fwiw.

2 of the "definite" categories have the lowest hazard ratios with (Vit D placebo) - (omega 3 active), which implies a win for omega3.

Take the rheumatoid arthritis "definite" category. It has the lowest hazard ratio by far .23 for both of them active...much better than either alone, .85 for each.

This study at least is mixed judging from this table

edit: "definite autoimmune thyroid" disease is another big win for Omega 3 active alone. I don't know whats going on here.

I'd compare only Vit.D+placebo w Omega3+placebo.
The "thyroid case" is the only substantial win for the latter as far as I can see in this Table. But the latter also has more times the H. ratio >1. The situation is exacerbated when only "definite" cases are considered (sans the thyroid case).

The paper does not explain why the thyroid case is worse for Vit.D+placebo.
 

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Autoimmune diseases have been described as Th1 dominant diseases. So to treat Th1 dominance, we need to lower Th1.

Lifestyle, Foods, Supplements that May Balance the Immune System (Lower Th1)

Environment/Lifestyle

The following detrimental factors may also raise Th1 and should be avoided: severe injury [16], Mycotoxins, Mold [17], Diesel exhaust particles [18], Glutathione depletion [19], Oxidative stress/ROS [20, 21].

Foods

Nutrients

Supplements

Flavonoids:

Hormones​

  • Pregnenolone [58]
  • Progesterone [124]. Increases IL-10. Increases immune tolerance so that fetus isn’t rejected. Pregnancy improves the symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis, a disease driven primarily by Th1 immune responses, whereas systemic lupus erythematosus, a disease linked to excess Th2 cytokine production, tends to flare during pregnancy [124].
  • Testosterone [125, 126]. Hypothesized to decrease IL-12 and increase IL-10, which decreases TNF and IL-b.
  • Estrogens/Estradiol [127, 128]. Plant-based foods have phytoestrogens, especially soy, but their effects on Th1 immunity haven’t been researched.
  • Insulin [129]
  • ACTH [130]
  • MSH [130]
  • TRH [130]
  • Somatostatin [130]

Neurotransmitters​

Drugs​

 

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A human study, one of the largest ever conducted, and covering virtually all major autoimmune conditions. Also, the study claims that this is the first intervention trial that looked at effects of vitamin D on developing autoimmune conditions, so the link is causal - i.e. we can now claim that taking vitamin D does prevent autoimmune diseases, while in the past all the evidence was from observational/epidemiological trials. The other interesting finding of the study was that the dosage of vitamin D used was quite low - i.e. 2,000 IU daily. Considering the widespread vitamin D deficiency (and even insufficiency) in the general population, a dosage of 5,000 IU - 10,000 IU would have been much more appropriate, even if taken only during the fall/winter seasons. Multiple human studies have demonstrated that such higher doses are required in order to correct the deficiency/insufficiency during the fall/winter season, and in overweight/obese people this higher dose may be needed even during spring/summer due to the higher "volume of distribution" of the vitamin in such people, as well as its preferential storage of vitamin D in fat tissue. Finally, while the popular press articles conveniently neglect to mention it, the study also found that taking omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) was NOT effective in preventing the development of autoimmune conditions. In fact, taking the omega-3 together with vitamin D negated the protective effects of the latter, so hopefully this study would give serious pause to dietitians/doctors who still recommend/prescribe this toxic PUFA industrial waste.

Vitamin D and marine omega 3 fatty acid supplementation and incident autoimmune disease: VITAL randomized controlled trial
"...Conclusions Vitamin D supplementation for five years, with or without omega 3 fatty acids, reduced autoimmune disease by 22%, while omega 3 fatty acid supplementation with or without vitamin D reduced the autoimmune disease rate by 15% (not statistically significant). Both treatment arms showed larger effects than the reference arm (vitamin D placebo and omega 3 fatty acid placebo)."

Vitamin D supplements really do reduce risk of autoimmune disease
"...Vitamin D supplements really do prevent people developing an autoimmune disease, at least for those over 50, in a study providing the first evidence of a causal link between the two. Previous studies on the effect of vitamin D on autoimmune conditions have looked at vitamin D levels in those with an autoimmune disease or in those who go on to develop one. Other studies have hinted at the supplement’s beneficial effects on the immune system. “We know vitamin D does all kinds of wonderful things for the immune system in animal studies,” says Karen Costenbader at the Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston. “But we have never proven before that giving vitamin D can prevent autoimmune disease.” Costenbader and her colleagues randomly split nearly 26,000 people in the US who were 50 or over into two groups, giving them either vitamin D supplements or a placebo. “The great thing about randomised trials is they really answer the question of causation,” says Costenbader. The team tracked the participants for around five years to measure the development of autoimmune conditions, including rheumatoid arthritis, autoimmune thyroid disease and psoriasis. This revealed that a dose of 2000 international units (IU) of vitamin D per day reduced the development of autoimmune disease by 22 per cent, compared with the placebo. This is a larger dose than the standard 400 IU recommended by health organisations such as the UK’s Department of Health and Social Care."
Mate the self hacked website claims vitamin D3 and omega 3 both raise serotonin levels

SOme sites claim fish oil and vit d work the same way cortisone works for autoimmune disease

Ive hd a massive improvement in temps energy ans every possible thing since dropping D3 but continuing a milk heavy peat diet

PRior to this i was using 10,000 IU D3 daily for 3 years, naturewise brand. 5000 IU vitamin A from diet wholr milk and liver
 

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Autoimmune diseases have been described as Th1 dominant diseases. So to treat Th1 dominance, we need to lower Th1.

Lifestyle, Foods, Supplements that May Balance the Immune System (Lower Th1)

Environment/Lifestyle

The following detrimental factors may also raise Th1 and should be avoided: severe injury [16], Mycotoxins, Mold [17], Diesel exhaust particles [18], Glutathione depletion [19], Oxidative stress/ROS [20, 21].

Foods

Nutrients

Supplements

Flavonoids:

Hormones​

  • Pregnenolone [58]
  • Progesterone [124]. Increases IL-10. Increases immune tolerance so that fetus isn’t rejected. Pregnancy improves the symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis, a disease driven primarily by Th1 immune responses, whereas systemic lupus erythematosus, a disease linked to excess Th2 cytokine production, tends to flare during pregnancy [124].
  • Testosterone [125, 126]. Hypothesized to decrease IL-12 and increase IL-10, which decreases TNF and IL-b.
  • Estrogens/Estradiol [127, 128]. Plant-based foods have phytoestrogens, especially soy, but their effects on Th1 immunity haven’t been researched.
  • Insulin [129]
  • ACTH [130]
  • MSH [130]
  • TRH [130]
  • Somatostatin [130]

Neurotransmitters​

Drugs​


Why is so much vitamin A needed? And wouldn’t this list imply too much vitamin D can cause issues then
 
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