Ukraine Crisis

[Hugh Johnson]

You've reached the untermenschen stage of derangement I see. It was only a matter of time I guess.

He has always been motivated by insane hatred, that was clear. It is hard to hide who you are for long.

Anyway, if anyone wonders why this thread is dead apart from insane Ukrainian propaganda, it's because there is nothing interesting going on Russia won this war a long time ago. Against Ukraine they won in the first month, but the war continued against NATO and EU. But Russia won that decisively some six months ago. Now there is very little to discuss. There are the details of doctrine, economy, geopolitics, but those have dedicated spaces.

 

[burtlancast]

He has always been motivated by insane hatred, that was clear. It is hard to hide who you are for long.

Always equal to your abysmal standards, as usual.

The EU parliament just declared Russia a dictatorship with Poutine as dictator. I guess it was out of their hatred too...

 

[gd81]

The EU....an organization run by commissioners who are appointed, not elected.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Always equal to your abysmal standards, as usual.

The EU parliament just declared Russia a dictatorship with Poutine as dictator. I guess it was out of their hatred too...

This made me wonder why Ukraine supporters have such need to convince themselves they are winning. A year ago it made some sense, the West had some hope of harming Russia in this proxy war so if you hate Russia it makes sense. But now it looks like insanity, like trying to convince the reality change by changing narrative.

I suspect it has to do with the modern western culture in which narrative manipulation and bureaucratic/legalistic fighting dominate. If you convince the authorities you are entitled to this or that, the machinery will provide it for you. Everything is so detached from real world results and actions, since the dominant financial industry does not really care about or understand such things. They focus on extracting resources via symbol manipulation so that is the game.

Such people and sectors function very well in extracting resources from the productive people because productive people and sectors are primarily concerned with doing things. So predatory and parasitic FIRE sector, which is only concerned with resource allocation, meaning robbing the productive sector, tends to win in conflict. However, Russia and China are dominated by industrial capital and the state, so they produce things and seek real world result. The symbol manipulators have their tools, which are to get manipulate narratives, bureaucratic victories and lawfare. But sovereign states like Russia can mostly ignore such thing and focus on real world results.

This then appears to cause an existential crisis in the narrative manipulators. They keep winning the battles in the only arena they understand, getting this or that Western institution to issue statements and judgements. And it changes nothing because the Russia is sovereign and simply keeps grinding down Ukraine. The only weapon they had were sanctions, but Russian economy does better with them than without them. The parasites have so hollowed out the West that to not have a relationship with the western financial system just means you get to keep more of your resources. How are the symbol manipulators to deal with this? They only know how to double down or divert, the more intelligent ones are trying to divert attention elsewhere.

 

[burtlancast]

Atacams arrived and striked for the first time 2 airfields: out of a stock of 100 Russian K2 helicopters, there's only 30 remaining.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI9f9LYuqtk

Russian blows himself up with a grenade after being wounded by a Ukrainian drone. on the Avdiivka front. He knows he won't receive medical treatment

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1713597887332958717?s=20

 

[gd81]

Atacams arrived and striked for the first time 2 airfields: out of a stock of 100 Russian K2 helicopters, there's only 30 remaining.

There's no proof of this.


First it was Leopard tanks, then Shadow storm missiles, then HIMARS that were all going to turn the tide, now it's 30 year old ATACAMS the U.S got rid of so it wouldn't have to pay to decommission them. What's next I wonder.

 

[burtlancast]

What's next I wonder.

Next is Russia forced for the next 30 years to pay the cost of Ukrainian reconstruction by the trillions and getting ejected from the UN Security council.

The West cannot allow anymore Ukraine to lose, since if Russia wins the Ukrainians won't be able to pay back the military aid.

Let's see for how long the repulsive little Leprechaun still manages to remain alive.

 

[burtlancast]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk-o9QFVfN0

 

[BrianF]

Next is Russia forced for the next 30 years to pay the cost of Ukrainian reconstruction by the trillions and getting ejected from the UN Security council.

The West cannot allow anymore Ukraine to lose, since if Russia wins the Ukrainians won't be able to pay back the military aid.

Let's see for how long the repulsive little Leprechaun still manages to remain alive.real

Russia was always going to pay a significant sum towards the rebuilding of what once was the Ukrainian state. They’ll have no choice in that matter as they’ll own a large portion of it and they’ll have to.

Fortunately they’ll own the part with the best farmland and the minerals so they’ll at least have something to tax.

The cow land in the west won’t be able to pay back anything and will become the EUs problem.

Lots of p*ssed off nazis with a grudge too

 

[gd81]

Lots of p*ssed off nazis with a grudge too

And western countries will now get stuck dealing with that scum as they leave Ukraine.

 

[gd81]

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Russia was always going to pay a significant sum towards the rebuilding of what once was the Ukrainian state. They’ll have no choice in that matter as they’ll own a large portion of it and they’ll have to.

Fortunately they’ll own the part with the best farmland and the minerals so they’ll at least have something to tax.

The cow land in the west won’t be able to pay back anything and will become the EUs problem.

Lots of p*ssed off nazis with a grudge too

They will rebuild Russian land. And not all of it, many cities are depopulated and will be left destroyed.

 

[gd81]

 

[burtlancast]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRryRPUf9Ys

 

[docall18]

Next is Russia forced for the next 30 years to pay the cost of Ukrainian reconstruction by the trillions and getting ejected from the UN Security council.

The West cannot allow anymore Ukraine to lose, since if Russia wins the Ukrainians won't be able to pay back the military aid.

Let's see for how long the repulsive little Leprechaun still manages to remain alive.

This hateful fool has ruined the thread. On the rare occasion I do look in he's spamming more biased rubbish. Can the thread author @LeeLemonoil not block him?

Let him go start his own anti-Russia thread.

 

[Apple]

This hateful fool has ruined the thread. On the rare occasion I do look in he's spamming more biased rubbish. Can the thread author @LeeLemonoil not block him?

Let him go start his own anti-Russia thread.

Sometimes we see similar messages on other threads, some people take a comment too personal and ask to block other members for their contrarian views. This forum already lost several knowledgeable members because somebody got "offended" with their posts,

 

[burtlancast]

Russia using trucks from the 1930's to attack Avdikva.
It's not a joke....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfIwGVqw7yM

 

[burtlancast]

David Satter - Russia's Contempt for International Laws and Norms Went Unchallenged for Two Decades.​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O13iqKkC6Y4

 

[burtlancast]

Yesterday, there was a rumor about Putin having suffered a severe heart attack.
It was quickly debunked
Putin didn't have a heart attack-

he can't possibly have a heart attack,

as he has no heart to begin with


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJDeJ9wx2Vg

 

[haidut]

extracting resources via symbol manipulation

Bingo!
And, unrelated to the Ukraine war, that same principle is involved in what passes for artificial "intelligence" these days. Completely detached from reality, yet cunningly convincing enough (again, by manipulating symbols) to get people to part with their money and/or freedom.