The stock market likely compromised/fraudulent to its core

[MetabolicTrash]

So ultimately is this bad news for investors pulling through/maximizing their portfolios? I've been investing for years, and currently not doing too bad at all with what little I can manage to put in there. Even knowing it's all supposedly a sham, obviously there are people still doing well with enough investment capital or such.

I'm just trying to earn sufficient dividend returns because it's the only way I see something feasibly passive/straightforward that requires no other factors on my end besides money put in, and hope/waiting (and if more money then maybe less waiting, so a possible incentive for some to keep feeding the "system").

The whole idea taught behind investing is generally, "If you keep your money it never grows -- invest it and you one day may end up with lots more." Regardless of knowing where it stands, or how rigged some people think it might be per se, it seemingly doesn't make any difference in my approach to it since I went in blind anyways.

It's just something I see as a progressive input leading to an eventual, beneficial output -- and I'm not fond of casinos really so that doesn't appeal as another option for one who wants to use their money to help fuel financial success for themselves but, say, strictly avoids stock market investing or banks for the most part.

I mean -- to a degree -- almost everything can end up clearly fraudulent. Even most workaday jobs might just be fueling fraud on the other end anyways. Example: Work your whole life for poverty wages while the company you work for controls virtually the entire market(s) in your country and seemingly unending resources. Perhaps some wouldn't call that a scam but the way I see it doesn't look good at all, to put it simply.

 

[Rick K]

Kudos to @tankasnowgod who clued me in on how exactly buying/selling stocks works in the Western world. Two entities - DTC and Cede & Co. control the whole scheme and when you "buy" or "sell" stock no actual stocks change hands unless you are selling the paper stock certificates physically, which is probably one in a million occurrence. The vast majority of stock buy/sell actions are indirect/virtual and the actual stocks and transactions are all in the names of Cede & Co, and the actual "trades" are being executed by DTC by simply changing account balances in its own systems. Well, as it usually happens, with so much power comes a great temptation to abuse it. And it seems DTC / Cede & Co could not resist that temptation and implemented the biggest "naked short" selling the world has ever seen, all on the backs of their clients.
To those who don't realize it yet, if you "own" any stock, whether personally or through a retirement account/fund, you actually own nothing unless you have the paper stock certificates in your possession! The actual "master" stock certificates for all stocks traded on the exchanges are owned by Cede & Co, which is owned by DTC, which is owned by DTCC. So, who owns DTCC? A handful of "elite" Wall Street banks. So, Wall Street very literally exists for the sole purpose of 100% illegally manipulating publicly traded companies, (even destroying them, if needed) while also ensuring that nobody (except them) really owns any stocks. Unfortunately, same goes for cash on deposit, as deposit accounts in most banks are legally under the names of "John Doe". The actual names on the accounts matching the names of the depositors are legally void/meaningless. So, the bank owns the actual deposits, not the person who deposited the money there.

Maybe @tankasnowgod can share that video with the former OverStock CEO who explains the whole thing much more clearly than I can.
@Amarsh213


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/mvk5dv/a_house_of_cards_part_1/

"...TLDR: The DTC has been taken over by big money. They transitioned from a manual to a computerized ledger system in the 80s, and it played a significant role in the 1987 market crash. In 2003, several issuers with the DTC wanted to remove their securities from the DTC's deposit account because the DTC's participants were naked short selling their securities. Turns out, they were right. The DTC and it's participants have created a market-sized naked short selling scheme. All of this is made possible by the DTC's enrollee- Cede & Co."

I've always marveled at the American banking system and how equity is created by a legal Ponzi scheme. For those who don't know: if you deposit $1,000 into a bank account, the bank can now legally lend $9,000 against your deposit. So, if they loan that $9,000 to someone else who then deposits it in their bank, that bank can now claim as an asset $81,000 to lend or invest elsewhere. It takes very few transactions for this to total in the millions. And what does this continually skewed financial trail rest on? $1,000. Try this stunt as an individual and watch how fast you're arrested and charged with fraud.

 

[Lollipop2]

I've always marveled at the American banking system and how equity is created by a legal Ponzi scheme. For those who don't know: if you deposit $1,000 into a bank account, the bank can now legally lend $9,000 against your deposit. So, if they loan that $9,000 to someone else who then deposits it in their bank, that bank can now claim as an asset $81,000 to lend or invest elsewhere. It takes very few transactions for this to total in the millions. And what does this continually skewed financial trail rest on? $1,000. Try this stunt as an individual and watch how fast you're arrested and charged with fraud.

+1

 

[gaze]

I've always marveled at the American banking system and how equity is created by a legal Ponzi scheme. For those who don't know: if you deposit $1,000 into a bank account, the bank can now legally lend $9,000 against your deposit. So, if they loan that $9,000 to someone else who then deposits it in their bank, that bank can now claim as an asset $81,000 to lend or invest elsewhere. It takes very few transactions for this to total in the millions. And what does this continually skewed financial trail rest on? $1,000. Try this stunt as an individual and watch how fast you're arrested and charged with fraud.

well said. rehypothecation and repo markets and dark pools. once you learn about these you realize it's one big club and youre not in it

 

[JDreamer]

I have excited the stock market.

The Inflation factor is mainstream propaganda. Big Investment banks like GS/MS can easily manipulate the prices of good through derivatives. The FED is also purchasing TIPS to manipulate reality. The same gimmick was used by Ben Bernanke post financial Crises of 08. It's a way to get dumb money "all in" to provide liquidity for the wealthy exiting. If it's mainstream news of "higher inflation" than it's safe to bet it's not


Stock Market Bubble Mechanism:
1) The Treasury Borrows against the Tax Payer.(9 Trillion Past Year)
2) The Primary Dealer Banks Purchase the Treasury Bills.
3) The Fed Purchases Treasury Bills, from Primary Dealer Banks( Quantative Easing).
4) Fed Credits the "Banks Reserves" on the PD Banks Balance Sheets
5) Banks then Loan out credit to Speculators/Hedge Fund/Outright Buy Securities with Banks Reserves.
6) Bubble Grows

This is why they had to do 9 trillion in "Cares Act"+Covid Bailouts...etc. Bill after bill. To create a ton of treasury's for the Primary dealer banks to buy and sell to FED, to increase bank reserves.
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As For the Housing Market?
1) 80% of Loans in the US are against are mortgages. The Further the Interest Rate drops, the more people can borrow to make a monthly payment. This bids up the price of house as buyers compete for purchase
2) Banks use government for eviction moratorium so the market doesn't really know how many mortgages are bust/empty house will hit the market.
3) GS/JPM/MS manipulate Lumber Prices using derivatives. This is increasing the price of building new homes to keep the existing homes value super higher and further fleece the population as more and more income goes to their land(lords).


They waded into the rubicon with the Stimulus Checks and PPP Loans, this is money printing. But as long as they don't make bank accounts at the FED for each person and they get a monthly UBI( FED liabilities turn into legal tender). We won't have Hyper-Inflationary problem. But if the FED begins using it's liabilities as legal tender. In other words, permanent Stimulus checks/UBI. Then yes run for the hills.

If you want to gamble in the casino, just use long dated calls. You cap risk off and can enjoy upside incase they go ultra parabolic and blow the bubble higher and higher.

My Main reason for exiting is Jamie Dimons Comment this week.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnc3MmWcRY


Here's lacy Hunt. The video is scalped since it cost money to subscribe. He's the one of the best economist alive at the moment.

You really knocked it out of the park with this post.

For some reason though I'm not able to full understand - "They waded into the rubicon with the Stimulus Checks and PPP Loans, this is money printing. But as long as they don't make bank accounts at the FED for each person and they get a monthly UBI( FED liabilities turn into legal tender). We won't have Hyper-Inflationary problem. But if the FED begins using it's liabilities as legal tender. In other words, permanent Stimulus checks/UBI. Then yes run for the hills."

Can you expand on the FED using liabilities as legal tender part?

 

[Sam321]

Kudos to @tankasnowgod who clued me in on how exactly buying/selling stocks works in the Western world. Two entities - DTC and Cede & Co. control the whole scheme and when you "buy" or "sell" stock no actual stocks change hands unless you are selling the paper stock certificates physically, which is probably one in a million occurrence. The vast majority of stock buy/sell actions are indirect/virtual and the actual stocks and transactions are all in the names of Cede & Co, and the actual "trades" are being executed by DTC by simply changing account balances in its own systems. Well, as it usually happens, with so much power comes a great temptation to abuse it. And it seems DTC / Cede & Co could not resist that temptation and implemented the biggest "naked short" selling the world has ever seen, all on the backs of their clients.
To those who don't realize it yet, if you "own" any stock, whether personally or through a retirement account/fund, you actually own nothing unless you have the paper stock certificates in your possession! The actual "master" stock certificates for all stocks traded on the exchanges are owned by Cede & Co, which is owned by DTC, which is owned by DTCC. So, who owns DTCC? A handful of "elite" Wall Street banks. So, Wall Street very literally exists for the sole purpose of 100% illegally manipulating publicly traded companies, (even destroying them, if needed) while also ensuring that nobody (except them) really owns any stocks. Unfortunately, same goes for cash on deposit, as deposit accounts in most banks are legally under the names of "John Doe". The actual names on the accounts matching the names of the depositors are legally void/meaningless. So, the bank owns the actual deposits, not the person who deposited the money there.

Maybe @tankasnowgod can share that video with the former OverStock CEO who explains the whole thing much more clearly than I can.
@Amarsh213


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/mvk5dv/a_house_of_cards_part_1/

"...TLDR: The DTC has been taken over by big money. They transitioned from a manual to a computerized ledger system in the 80s, and it played a significant role in the 1987 market crash. In 2003, several issuers with the DTC wanted to remove their securities from the DTC's deposit account because the DTC's participants were naked short selling their securities. Turns out, they were right. The DTC and it's participants have created a market-sized naked short selling scheme. All of this is made possible by the DTC's enrollee- Cede & Co."

Kudos to @tankasnowgod who clued me in on how exactly buying/selling stocks works in the Western world. Two entities - DTC and Cede & Co. control the whole scheme and when you "buy" or "sell" stock no actual stocks change hands unless you are selling the paper stock certificates physically, which is probably one in a million occurrence. The vast majority of stock buy/sell actions are indirect/virtual and the actual stocks and transactions are all in the names of Cede & Co, and the actual "trades" are being executed by DTC by simply changing account balances in its own systems. Well, as it usually happens, with so much power comes a great temptation to abuse it. And it seems DTC / Cede & Co could not resist that temptation and implemented the biggest "naked short" selling the world has ever seen, all on the backs of their clients.
To those who don't realize it yet, if you "own" any stock, whether personally or through a retirement account/fund, you actually own nothing unless you have the paper stock certificates in your possession! The actual "master" stock certificates for all stocks traded on the exchanges are owned by Cede & Co, which is owned by DTC, which is owned by DTCC. So, who owns DTCC? A handful of "elite" Wall Street banks. So, Wall Street very literally exists for the sole purpose of 100% illegally manipulating publicly traded companies, (even destroying them, if needed) while also ensuring that nobody (except them) really owns any stocks. Unfortunately, same goes for cash on deposit, as deposit accounts in most banks are legally under the names of "John Doe". The actual names on the accounts matching the names of the depositors are legally void/meaningless. So, the bank owns the actual deposits, not the person who deposited the money there.

Maybe @tankasnowgod can share that video with the former OverStock CEO who explains the whole thing much more clearly than I can.
@Amarsh213


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/mvk5dv/a_house_of_cards_part_1/

"...TLDR: The DTC has been taken over by big money. They transitioned from a manual to a computerized ledger system in the 80s, and it played a significant role in the 1987 market crash. In 2003, several issuers with the DTC wanted to remove their securities from the DTC's deposit account because the DTC's participants were naked short selling their securities. Turns out, they were right. The DTC and it's participants have created a market-sized naked short selling scheme. All of this is made possible by the DTC's enrollee- Cede & Co."

Good info. Stonks been compromised for a while tho.

Precious metals, bitcoin, land, 2a, goats, cows are the "value" of the future.

Party is definitely over.

 

[Ideonaut]

Maybe the same kind of thing happens with real estate ownership. My house is paid for but I don't have a paper deed--it's all digital. Gretchen Morgenson, who wrote for the New York Times, had an article maybe 10 years ago in which she said that for properties that have already been paid off in full by the (nominal?) owner, the banks keep the deed (or whatever the document is that shows ownership) and use it like money (a negotiable instrument), as if the bank still owns the house. The banks are CROOKED.

 

[haidut]

Maybe the same kind of thing happens with real estate ownership. My house is paid for but I don't have a paper deed--it's all digital. Gretchen Morgenson, who wrote for the New York Times, had an article maybe 10 years ago in which she said that for properties that have already been paid off in full by the (nominal?) owner, the banks keep the deed (or whatever the document is that shows ownership) and use it like money (a negotiable instrument), as if the bank still owns the house. The banks are CROOKED.

The banks keep the DEED and advertise it as a "credit line" so you can borrow against that deed. If you paid off a $1m house you can probably borrow up to $1mil. I think you can get the DEED of the house transferred on to you but the bank will probably try to discourage that by saying you no longer have a "line of credit" with them and cannot easily borrow more money. I think in some states the bank is required to transfer the deed to the nominal owner once the mortgage has been fully paid off. Of course, even then you don't really "own" the house. Default on a just a single annual property tax payment and see what happens...
@tankasnowgod

 

[haidut]

Good info. Stonks been compromised for a while tho.

Precious metals, bitcoin, land, 2a, goats, cows are the "value" of the future.

Party is definitely over.

The party has been officially called over as early as 2008, and probably much earlier than that.

Sorry, Startups: Party's Over

www.businessinsider.com

 

[haidut]

if you deposit $1,000 into a bank account, the bank can now legally lend $9,000 against your deposit

Even those limits are no longer in place. Due to the "pandemic" the limits on most fractional reserve banking have been suspended. Both at the bank level with the Fed and at the individual account level.

We Just Went From Fractional Reserve Banking To Zero Reserve Banking And It’s A Pretty Big Deal

We just went from a fractional reserve banking system to a zero reserve banking system.

medium.com

 

[Sam321]

The party has been officially called over as early as 2008, and probably much earlier than that.

Sorry, Startups: Party's Over

www.businessinsider.com

Should have let it collapse in 2008, let the banks fail, etc. We'd just be coming out of the ruins like 5 years ago or so.

Now its probably gonna be like Japan. Decade(s) of stagnant growth with no obvious opportunity and lots of pitfalls.

A game of chutes and ladders... except replace the ladders with negative interest rates.

 

[haidut]

Precious metals, bitcoin, land, 2a, goats, cows are the "value" of the future.

...I'd also add antibiotics, aspirin, guns/ammo....and some good ol' moonshine for disinfection purposes and drinking up to both good and bad times.

 

[Sam321]

...I'd also add antibiotics, aspirin, guns/ammo....and some good ol' moonshine for disinfection purposes and drinking up to both good and bad times.

Dogecoin as well

 

[Deleted member 5487]

You really knocked it out of the park with this post.

For some reason though I'm not able to full understand - "They waded into the rubicon with the Stimulus Checks and PPP Loans, this is money printing. But as long as they don't make bank accounts at the FED for each person and they get a monthly UBI( FED liabilities turn into legal tender). We won't have Hyper-Inflationary problem. But if the FED begins using it's liabilities as legal tender. In other words, permanent Stimulus checks/UBI. Then yes run for the hills."

Can you expand on the FED using liabilities as legal tender part?

Yeah.
So the federal reserve is the "Lender of Last Resort", not the "Spender of Last Resort"

Which means it can loan money to banks, and when it treasury issues loans they're borrowing from the fed, which "adds to the national debt.

However if the FED bypasses the goverment/national debt/lending and just send money into your bank account. Then that it Spending. And that would turn us into weimar/banana republic hyper inflation.

So when regular people say "The Fed is printing money, theres gonna be hyper inflation" they're wrong and don't understand the game. This is how the goverment/corporations want people to think so they go out and spend their currency and buy stuff/take out debt for real assets.

If you told people "We have a deflation problem due to extremly high levels of debt, technology, globalisation" they would sit on their cash and the economy would collapse.

 

[Regina]

View: https://twitter.com/BTC_Archive/status/1385324038034182154

 

[Sam321]

View: https://twitter.com/BTC_Archive/status/1385324038034182154

Great point.
Nueralink tho.

 

[Deleted member 5487]

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[Missenger]

Blood's oozing from the hills, I don't know how blatant it could be.

 

[ecstatichamster]

the key point is not that it isn't "you" on the account as the owner.

The key point is that when you put money "into" the bank, in most cases you are lending money to the bank and you are a creditor of the bank. There was a difference in the past between demand deposits, which are loans to the bank that they must make good on when you ask, and time deposits, which are loans to the bank giving them time to pay them back to you if you ask.

Same with stocks. You buy stocks through Schwab.com and you lend those stocks to Schwab. Schwab usually buys them in their own name, "street name" and they can do what they want with them, lend them out to short sellers being the main thing.

We depend upon auditors and "insurance" and laws to make sure that Schwab or the bank can pay us back our money, or our shares. Of course Schwab can settle in money, paying us money instead of giving us our shares, I'm sure, in event of some issue or default. They don't have to give us our securities that we bought, that are in street name and not our name anyway.

Nevertheless, to me, the better bet is Schwab (for instance) because there are often shares they buy for us when we place the order, but the bank doesn't have to have any "money" anymore to back up the loan we make to them. The bank has rules about "solvency" and audits but they don't have to have anything in the bank to pay us when we ask for our money back. OTOH the bank can "print" unlimited money so the default is very unlikely.

 

[Peatness]

View: https://twitter.com/Investingcom/status/1464273813689012239

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