Record numbers of Western citizens identify as LGBTQ

[Morgan]

Ray Peat says that elevated estrogen makes one prone to novelty seeking in sexuality, inability to be satisfied by hetero Normal romance, and desire for unorthodox sexual stimulation.

He also basically said by providing animal studies, homosexuality and sexual abnormalities are due to excess estrogen, if even over several generations or in utero.

Well, that would be one thing that I disagree with Ray Peat on, and that's okay.. I have yet to see a single effective study in regards to sexuality and hormonal profiles, one will say too much testosterone leads to "bisexuality", another will say its progesterone, and then yet another will say its estrogen. The studies on this topic are much like the studies that promote PUFA as being something beneficial, they are structured for an intended result, or they are placed in reductive isolation to a multitude of other factors. It is interesting to me that we even need definitions for sexuality to begin with, that the possibility for humans to be fluid in their desire is somehow out of the question.. that they may even have a choice in the matter.

Define for me what unorthodox sexual stimulation is? Who has or how would someone define this? Not only that, you are basically saying that the people I have fallen in love with are just "novelty" in regards to the intimacy that we shared. Yeah, no.

- Perhaps there were that many LGBT before, but the dangers of our past society prevented them from speaking their truth. Death was a real possibility for them (still is in some places), so survival instincts would ensure they stay quiet about it.

The dangers still exist even in so called "progressive" societies, it can still ruin your connection with you family even if you dearly love them, or ostracize you in some way depending on where you live; you have to endure, hear, and read all sorts of ridiculous nonsense directed towards you or towards someone you love.

 

[Nomane Euger]

Well, that would be one thing that I disagree with Ray Peat on, and that's okay.. I have yet to see a single effective study in regards to sexuality and hormonal profiles, one will say too much testosterone leads to "bisexuality", another will say its progesterone, and then yet another will say its estrogen. The studies on this topic are much like the studies that promote PUFA as being something beneficial, they are structured for an intended result, or they are placed in reductive isolation to a multitude of other factors. It is interesting to me that we even need definitions for sexuality to begin with, that the possibility for humans to be fluid in their desire is somehow out of the question.. that they may even have a choice in the matter.

Define for me what unorthodox sexual stimulation is? Who has or how would someone define this? Not only that, you are basically saying that the people I have fallen in love with are just "novelty" in regards to the intimacy that we shared. Yeah, no.


The dangers still exist even in so called "progressive" societies, it can still ruin your connection with you family even if you dearly love them, or ostracize you in some way depending on where you live; you have to endure, hear, and read all sorts of ridiculous nonsense directed towards you or towards someone you love.

hi,from my experience and peoples with wich i exchange offline and online,bi sexuality,homo sexuality is related to hormones and neurotransmitters,a food,a certain chemical,a certain life style factor can make you experience new different feelings,in novel parts of your body right after you ingest it,and even in your dreams.do you eat gras fed grass finished liver or good eggs often or rarely?

 

[Oleg]

The world that encourages children to change their sex and sexuality is evil. I'd say that's far more worrisome than people becoming politicized and appearing to have an 'agenda' in response to perverted morality.

Confusing children about their gender is very cruel and can lead to devastating consequences. I never heard of anyone being able to change somebody’s sexuality though. Could you change yours, if somebody encourages you?

 

[BRBsavinWorld]

Well, that would be one thing that I disagree with Ray Peat on, and that's okay.. I have yet to see a single effective study in regards to sexuality and hormonal profiles, one will say too much testosterone leads to "bisexuality", another will say its progesterone, and then yet another will say its estrogen. The studies on this topic are much like the studies that promote PUFA as being something beneficial, they are structured for an intended result, or they are placed in reductive isolation to a multitude of other factors. It is interesting to me that we even need definitions for sexuality to begin with, that the possibility for humans to be fluid in their desire is somehow out of the question.. that they may even have a choice in the matter.

The parts of the studies that are all over the place are the abstracts… because they’re probably pretty much gonna be measuring serum hormonal levels. I did a quick search, and that was what I saw. According to Ray, serum levels of anything are almost useless to use… if serum levels are consistently high, that could imply the thing is not getting used… and that’s the opposite of what many study conductors presume.
For what it’s worth, I went and looked up one study for hetero porn use associated with hormonal levels, and they found serum prolactin and estrogen were low, in the more frequent porn users. See above explanation for relevance.

 

[FocusedOnHealth]

Confusing children about their gender is very cruel and can lead to devastating consequences. I never heard of anyone being able to change somebody’s sexuality though. Could you change yours, if somebody encourages you?

I agree. That’s why it’s bad. It confuses children amongst other things.

 

[BRBsavinWorld]

Gay brains structured like those of the opposite sex

Brain scans have provided the most compelling evidence yet that being gay or straight is a biologically fixed trait

www.google.com

Fetal exposure to excessive stress hormones in the womb linked to adult mood disorders

Exposure of the developing fetus to excessive levels of stress hormones in the womb can cause mood disorders in later life and now, for the first time, researchers have found a mechanism that may underpin this process.

www.sciencedaily.com

Stress hormones effect development of the amygdala in utero.
Youth hormones have consistently decreased, while stress hormones increased, in the last 50 years.

 

[haidut]

Well, that would be one thing that I disagree with Ray Peat on, and that's okay.. I have yet to see a single effective study in regards to sexuality and hormonal profiles, one will say too much testosterone leads to "bisexuality", another will say its progesterone, and then yet another will say its estrogen. The studies on this topic are much like the studies that promote PUFA as being something beneficial, they are structured for an intended result, or they are placed in reductive isolation to a multitude of other factors. It is interesting to me that we even need definitions for sexuality to begin with, that the possibility for humans to be fluid in their desire is somehow out of the question.. that they may even have a choice in the matter.

Define for me what unorthodox sexual stimulation is? Who has or how would someone define this? Not only that, you are basically saying that the people I have fallen in love with are just "novelty" in regards to the intimacy that we shared. Yeah, no.


The dangers still exist even in so called "progressive" societies, it can still ruin your connection with you family even if you dearly love them, or ostracize you in some way depending on where you live; you have to endure, hear, and read all sorts of ridiculous nonsense directed towards you or towards someone you love.

The fact that steroid levels, either absolute or their ratios, heavily influence (determine?) sexuality has been well-established...at least as far as animals are concerned. Considering how basic/fundamental sexuality is, the argument that "this is for animals, does not apply to humans" cannot really be used. In fact, considering the variety of animal species, in which sexuality can be "modulated" at will by changing steroids and their balance, I would have to see serious counter-evidence to convince me that it doesn't apply to humans as well.
I understand the concern that this kind of information can be used for nefarious "political" purposes, but I don't think we are doing anybody any favors by concealing it either. Unless the public starts realizing how much steroids influence us, including sexuality, it will never take seriously issues such as endocrine disruptors, insane medical therapies (castration for reproductive tract cancers, practiced to this day on both men and women), chronic stress, etc.
@Josiah Baldwin

Turned Straight After 14 Months Of Peating

Seriously, no jokes, never been with a girl, never wanted it, always prefered guys. But it changed since 2 months or something. I think it is lowering estrogen, higher T and DHT. It costed me a fortune on haiduts supplements though. I was with this girl tonight and it felt so right. And not...

raypeatforum.com

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.846.2295&rep=rep1&type=pdf

"..."...Unless sufficient amounts of androgens are present during critical stages of fetal (or neonatal) development, differentiation will always occur as a female, regardless of genetic programming. By use of this principle, homosexual behavior in male and female animals has been experimentally induced and prevented (2, 3).""

APA PsycNet

psycnet.apa.org

"...The homosexuals had lower creatinine and 17-ketogenic steroid levels, lower androsterone-etiocholanolone ratio, and higher 11-keto-etiocholanolone. They also had lower triglycerides, phospholipids, cholesterol, and beta-lipoproteins. It is concluded that the data support the thesis of an unidentified common factor underlying physical and personality characteristics and homosexuality. (16 ref.)"

Plasma Testosterone, Estradiol, and Semen Analysis in Male Homosexuals

Plasma testosterone and estradiol were determined and semen analysis was performed in 32 homosexuals. The degree of homosexuality was ascertained by use of the hetero-homosexual rating scale of Kinsey. A control group of 46 normal adult males of the same age distribution (20 to 33 yr) was used...

jamanetwork.com

"...Plasma estradiol concentrations of the homosexual group were 2.24 ng/100 ml (median), 1.37 to 5.18 (range), the levels of the control group 1.77 and 1.07–2.95, respectively. Difference between the two groups is highly significant (P <.001, Wilcoxon test). No significant correlation between plasma estradiol and Kinsey rating was observed. It was concluded that the elevated plasma estradiol concentrations of the homosexual group are a biological feature of this group and may be associated with the homosexual behavior. Plasma testosterone determination and semen analysis did not reveal any significant difference between the homosexual and the two control groups."

Patterns of Hormone Excretion in Male and Female Homosexuals - Nature

WE have reported that urinary testosterone levels tend to be low in male homosexuals, while in lesbians high levels of testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) coincide with abnormally low values for oestrogen output1. The purpose of this communication is to extend this work by presenting a...

www.nature.com

"...WE have reported that urinary testosterone levels tend to be low in male homosexuals, while in lesbians high levels of testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) coincide with abnormally low values for oestrogen output1. The purpose of this communication is to extend this work by presenting a comparison of excretion patterns for these hormones with those of normal heterosexual men and women."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1586258/pdf/brmedj01568-0031.pdf

"...Analyses of 24-hour specimens of urine from healthy adult males for androsterone and etiocholanolone produced values which, when calculated as discrinant scores, discriminated between heterosexual and exclusively homosexual individuals. This confirms a previous study."

5alpha-reductase 2 inhibition impairs brain defeminization of male rats: reproductive aspects - PubMed

The present study was carried out to determine whether 5alpha-reductase 2 (5alpha-R2) metabolic pathway plays a key role in brain sexual differentiation. The inhibition of 5alpha-R2 by finasteride (20 mg/kg/day) from gestational day 19 to postnatal day 5 has long-term effects on sexual behavior...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"...The copulatory potential was not affected and all finasteride-treated rats presented male sexual behavior. Despite this, 53% of them showed homosexual behavior when pretreated with estradiol, suggesting an incomplete brain defeminization."

Propecia turned me into a woman, man claims

A software engineer who was trying to combat hair loss says a generic form of Propecia caused him to develop breasts and made his hips widen like a woman's. And now, after nine months of taking finasteride, 38-year-old William McKee goes by the name Mandi and is considering having a complete sex...

news.yahoo.com

Baldness drug Propecia 'risking men's sexual health'

Some doctors in the US and Ireland claim anti-baldness drug Propecia can cause sexual problems like impotence and should have better labelling.

www.bbc.com

 

[FocusedOnHealth]

The fact that steroid levels, either absolute or their ratios, heavily influence (determine?) sexuality has been well-established...at least as far as animals are concerned. Considering how basic/fundamental sexuality is, the argument that "this is for animals, does not apply to humans" cannot really be used. In fact, considering the variety of animal species, in which sexuality can be "modulated" at will by changing steroids and their balance, I would have to see serious counter-evidence to convince me that it doesn't apply to humans as well.
I understand the concern that this kind of information can be used for nefarious "political" purposes, but I don't think we are doing anybody any favors by concealing it either. Unless the public starts realizing how much steroids influence us, including sexuality, it will never take seriously issues such as endocrine disruptors, insane medical therapies (castration for reproductive tract cancers, practiced to this day on both men and women), chronic stress, etc.
@Josiah Baldwin

Turned Straight After 14 Months Of Peating

Seriously, no jokes, never been with a girl, never wanted it, always prefered guys. But it changed since 2 months or something. I think it is lowering estrogen, higher T and DHT. It costed me a fortune on haiduts supplements though. I was with this girl tonight and it felt so right. And not...

raypeatforum.com

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.846.2295&rep=rep1&type=pdf

"..."...Unless sufficient amounts of androgens are present during critical stages of fetal (or neonatal) development, differentiation will always occur as a female, regardless of genetic programming. By use of this principle, homosexual behavior in male and female animals has been experimentally induced and prevented (2, 3).""

APA PsycNet

psycnet.apa.org

"...The homosexuals had lower creatinine and 17-ketogenic steroid levels, lower androsterone-etiocholanolone ratio, and higher 11-keto-etiocholanolone. They also had lower triglycerides, phospholipids, cholesterol, and beta-lipoproteins. It is concluded that the data support the thesis of an unidentified common factor underlying physical and personality characteristics and homosexuality. (16 ref.)"

Plasma Testosterone, Estradiol, and Semen Analysis in Male Homosexuals

Plasma testosterone and estradiol were determined and semen analysis was performed in 32 homosexuals. The degree of homosexuality was ascertained by use of the hetero-homosexual rating scale of Kinsey. A control group of 46 normal adult males of the same age distribution (20 to 33 yr) was used...

jamanetwork.com

"...Plasma estradiol concentrations of the homosexual group were 2.24 ng/100 ml (median), 1.37 to 5.18 (range), the levels of the control group 1.77 and 1.07–2.95, respectively. Difference between the two groups is highly significant (P <.001, Wilcoxon test). No significant correlation between plasma estradiol and Kinsey rating was observed. It was concluded that the elevated plasma estradiol concentrations of the homosexual group are a biological feature of this group and may be associated with the homosexual behavior. Plasma testosterone determination and semen analysis did not reveal any significant difference between the homosexual and the two control groups."

Patterns of Hormone Excretion in Male and Female Homosexuals - Nature

WE have reported that urinary testosterone levels tend to be low in male homosexuals, while in lesbians high levels of testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) coincide with abnormally low values for oestrogen output1. The purpose of this communication is to extend this work by presenting a...

www.nature.com

"...WE have reported that urinary testosterone levels tend to be low in male homosexuals, while in lesbians high levels of testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) coincide with abnormally low values for oestrogen output1. The purpose of this communication is to extend this work by presenting a comparison of excretion patterns for these hormones with those of normal heterosexual men and women."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1586258/pdf/brmedj01568-0031.pdf

"...Analyses of 24-hour specimens of urine from healthy adult males for androsterone and etiocholanolone produced values which, when calculated as discrinant scores, discriminated between heterosexual and exclusively homosexual individuals. This confirms a previous study."

5alpha-reductase 2 inhibition impairs brain defeminization of male rats: reproductive aspects - PubMed

The present study was carried out to determine whether 5alpha-reductase 2 (5alpha-R2) metabolic pathway plays a key role in brain sexual differentiation. The inhibition of 5alpha-R2 by finasteride (20 mg/kg/day) from gestational day 19 to postnatal day 5 has long-term effects on sexual behavior...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"...The copulatory potential was not affected and all finasteride-treated rats presented male sexual behavior. Despite this, 53% of them showed homosexual behavior when pretreated with estradiol, suggesting an incomplete brain defeminization."

Propecia turned me into a woman, man claims

A software engineer who was trying to combat hair loss says a generic form of Propecia caused him to develop breasts and made his hips widen like a woman's. And now, after nine months of taking finasteride, 38-year-old William McKee goes by the name Mandi and is considering having a complete sex...

news.yahoo.com

Baldness drug Propecia 'risking men's sexual health'

Some doctors in the US and Ireland claim anti-baldness drug Propecia can cause sexual problems like impotence and should have better labelling.

www.bbc.com

Wow, those links are VERY interesting…especially the guy saying he turned straight after Peating, and that Propecia link ….turning a man
more feminized.

 

[Nomane Euger]

@haidut
Hi haidut,do you have any perspective on if progesterone,and if low iron can be feminizing?after 2 blood donations,and after i started to it almost only very riped oranges and honey for multiples weeks,during a certain time,i had no sexual feelings anymore,no masculine characteristics,more child like type,characteristics associated with high progesterone and i had feelings in my lower abdomen when i seen some men faces that did looks healthy,not sexual,just like a enjoyement feeling,the lower abdomen feeling went away when i stopped the oranges and i added meat,and i manifested characteristics associated with testosterone/DHT and masculinity

 

[BRBsavinWorld]

@haidut
Wow. Thanks so much for sharing. I’ve been a sort of lone wolf without any formal science knowledge, trying to make sense of how hormones affect sexuality, including variations away from hetero normal sexuality… this explains so much

 

[Morgan]

hi,from my experience and peoples with wich i exchange offline and online,bi sexuality,homo sexuality is related to hormones and neurotransmitters,a food,a certain chemical,a certain life style factor can make you experience new different feelings,in novel parts of your body right after you ingest it,and even in your dreams.do you eat gras fed grass finished liver or good eggs often or rarely?

I won't discount your experience, but I do think that sounds peculiar.. I have not noticed anything dietary or nutritionally change sexuality besides libido, or perhaps influence the desire for a more emotional and affectionate connection.

Since you asked about my personal diet - 4oz to 8oz of liver weekly, lowfat white fish & seafood, A2 lowfat milk & goats milk, sheep cheese is a favorite, eggs only when I crave them, nonfat plain greek yogurt, lots of coffee, yerba mate, chamomile tea, lots of orange juice, ripe seasonal fruits, cane sugar, carbonated cane sugar sodas, button mushrooms, raw honey, occasional carrot salad, infrequent safe starches, collagen & gelatin desserts, salt & magnesium, supplements to balance any nutritional gaps or to support metabolism, progesterone, and occasionally pregnenolone.

The fact that steroid levels, either absolute or their ratios, heavily influence (determine?) sexuality has been well-established...at least as far as animals are concerned. Considering how basic/fundamental sexuality is, the argument that "this is for animals, does not apply to humans" cannot really be used. In fact, considering the variety of animal species, in which sexuality can be "modulated" at will by changing steroids and their balance, I would have to see serious counter-evidence to convince me that it doesn't apply to humans as well.
I understand the concern that this kind of information can be used for nefarious "political" purposes, but I don't think we are doing anybody any favors by concealing it either. Unless the public starts realizing how much steroids influence us, including sexuality, it will never take seriously issues such as endocrine disruptors, insane medical therapies (castration for reproductive tract cancers, practiced to this day on both men and women), chronic stress, etc.
@Josiah Baldwin

Turned Straight After 14 Months Of Peating

Seriously, no jokes, never been with a girl, never wanted it, always prefered guys. But it changed since 2 months or something. I think it is lowering estrogen, higher T and DHT. It costed me a fortune on haiduts supplements though. I was with this girl tonight and it felt so right. And not...

raypeatforum.com

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.846.2295&rep=rep1&type=pdf

"..."...Unless sufficient amounts of androgens are present during critical stages of fetal (or neonatal) development, differentiation will always occur as a female, regardless of genetic programming. By use of this principle, homosexual behavior in male and female animals has been experimentally induced and prevented (2, 3).""

APA PsycNet

psycnet.apa.org

"...The homosexuals had lower creatinine and 17-ketogenic steroid levels, lower androsterone-etiocholanolone ratio, and higher 11-keto-etiocholanolone. They also had lower triglycerides, phospholipids, cholesterol, and beta-lipoproteins. It is concluded that the data support the thesis of an unidentified common factor underlying physical and personality characteristics and homosexuality. (16 ref.)"

Plasma Testosterone, Estradiol, and Semen Analysis in Male Homosexuals

Plasma testosterone and estradiol were determined and semen analysis was performed in 32 homosexuals. The degree of homosexuality was ascertained by use of the hetero-homosexual rating scale of Kinsey. A control group of 46 normal adult males of the same age distribution (20 to 33 yr) was used...

jamanetwork.com

"...Plasma estradiol concentrations of the homosexual group were 2.24 ng/100 ml (median), 1.37 to 5.18 (range), the levels of the control group 1.77 and 1.07–2.95, respectively. Difference between the two groups is highly significant (P <.001, Wilcoxon test). No significant correlation between plasma estradiol and Kinsey rating was observed. It was concluded that the elevated plasma estradiol concentrations of the homosexual group are a biological feature of this group and may be associated with the homosexual behavior. Plasma testosterone determination and semen analysis did not reveal any significant difference between the homosexual and the two control groups."

Patterns of Hormone Excretion in Male and Female Homosexuals - Nature

WE have reported that urinary testosterone levels tend to be low in male homosexuals, while in lesbians high levels of testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) coincide with abnormally low values for oestrogen output1. The purpose of this communication is to extend this work by presenting a...

www.nature.com

"...WE have reported that urinary testosterone levels tend to be low in male homosexuals, while in lesbians high levels of testosterone and luteinizing hormone (LH) coincide with abnormally low values for oestrogen output1. The purpose of this communication is to extend this work by presenting a comparison of excretion patterns for these hormones with those of normal heterosexual men and women."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1586258/pdf/brmedj01568-0031.pdf

"...Analyses of 24-hour specimens of urine from healthy adult males for androsterone and etiocholanolone produced values which, when calculated as discrinant scores, discriminated between heterosexual and exclusively homosexual individuals. This confirms a previous study."

5alpha-reductase 2 inhibition impairs brain defeminization of male rats: reproductive aspects - PubMed

The present study was carried out to determine whether 5alpha-reductase 2 (5alpha-R2) metabolic pathway plays a key role in brain sexual differentiation. The inhibition of 5alpha-R2 by finasteride (20 mg/kg/day) from gestational day 19 to postnatal day 5 has long-term effects on sexual behavior...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"...The copulatory potential was not affected and all finasteride-treated rats presented male sexual behavior. Despite this, 53% of them showed homosexual behavior when pretreated with estradiol, suggesting an incomplete brain defeminization."

Propecia turned me into a woman, man claims

A software engineer who was trying to combat hair loss says a generic form of Propecia caused him to develop breasts and made his hips widen like a woman's. And now, after nine months of taking finasteride, 38-year-old William McKee goes by the name Mandi and is considering having a complete sex...

news.yahoo.com

Baldness drug Propecia 'risking men's sexual health'

Some doctors in the US and Ireland claim anti-baldness drug Propecia can cause sexual problems like impotence and should have better labelling.

www.bbc.com

I don't doubt that one can "modulate" sexuality with dramatic or radical usage of hormonal therapy or disruption.. I share the concern of environmental estrogens and other gross negligence from the established pharmacological system. Early onset puberty, the rise of other stress hormones, and more importantly estrogens role in driving reproduction at the cost of systematic integrity. I remain unconvinced however that outside of intense alteration such as finasteride or strong hormonal down-regulation that it has anything to do with an individuals potential well being or "orientation". I believe that the evolution of sexuality runs parallel with the complexity of an organism, especially in regards to the brain. So, what is true for a rat may not be at all comparable to what would be true for a primate.

Prenatal endocrine influences on sexual orientation and on sexually differentiated childhood behavior

Both sexual orientation and sex-typical childhood behaviors, such as toy, playmate and activity preferences, show substantial sex differences, as well as substantial variability within each sex. In other species, behaviors that show sex differences are ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Although a role for hormones during early development has been established, it also appears that there may be multiple pathways to a given sexual orientation outcome and some of these pathways may not involve hormones."

Social Closeness Increases Salivary Progesterone in Humans

We examined whether interpersonal closeness increases salivary progesterone. One hundred and sixty female college students (80 dyads) were randomly assigned to participate in either a closeness task with a partner versus a neutral task with a partner. ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Prenatal Exposure to Progesterone Affects Sexual Orientation in Humans - PubMed

Prenatal sex hormone levels affect physical and behavioral sexual differentiation in animals and humans. Although prenatal hormones are theorized to influence sexual orientation in humans, evidence is sparse. Sexual orientation variables for 34 prenatally progesterone-exposed subjects (17 males...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Progesterone and sexual behavior in males

Previous investigations into the effects of progestins on copulatory behavior have suggested that progesterone inhibits the expression of androgen-dep…

www.sciencedirect.com

Testing the Affiliation Hypothesis of Homoerotic Motivation in Humans: The Effects of Progesterone and Priming

Author(s): Fleischman, Diana S.; Fessler, Daniel M.T.; Cholakians, Argine E.

escholarship.org

Progesterone and bisexuality: Is there a link?

Bisexuality is quite common among men and women whose mothers received additional doses of the sex hormone progesterone while pregnant. This is one of the findings of a study led by June Reinisch, Director Emerita of The Kinsey Institute in the US, published in Springer's journal Archives of...

www.eurekalert.org

 

[LuMonty]

@Morgan I've used sci-hub to grab the two you posted that only had abstracts in case you or others want to read them.

Prenatal exposure: link
Progesterone and sexual behavior in males: link

 

[haidut]

@haidut
Hi haidut,do you have any perspective on if progesterone,and if low iron can be feminizing?after 2 blood donations,and after i started to it almost only very riped oranges and honey for multiples weeks,during a certain time,i had no sexual feelings anymore,no masculine characteristics,more child like type,characteristics associated with high progesterone and i had feelings in my lower abdomen when i seen some men faces that did looks healthy,not sexual,just like a enjoyement feeling,the lower abdomen feeling went away when i stopped the oranges and i added meat,and i manifested characteristics associated with testosterone/DHT and masculinity

Yes, progesterone can promote the child phenotype. In my experience it can blunt the effects of androgens, but only when used in high doses - 150mg+ per dose, dissolved in tocopherols (which has 70%+ bioavailability). At lower/physiological doses (20mg-30mg daily) it seems to act primarily as an anti-estrogen without affecting androgens much, and may even modestly boost androgen levels by blocking estrogen at the "receptor" level as well as inhibit aromatase.

 

[Nomane Euger]

Yes, progesterone can promote the child phenotype. In my experience it can blunt the effects of androgens, but only when used in high doses - 150mg+ per dose, dissolved in tocopherols (which has 70%+ bioavailability). At lower/physiological doses (20mg-30mg daily) it seems to act primarily as an anti-estrogen without affecting androgens much, and may even modestly boost androgen levels by blocking estrogen at the "receptor" level as well as inhibit aromatase.

hi,do you have any perspective on how like 5kilos of very ripe oranges could equate in term of progesterone effects due to apigenin,narigenin or anything other compounds that could have a meaningfull effect?

 

[aniciete]

View: https://twitter.com/serratedsaint/status/1542363854910681088?s=21&t=gqp7kuyzE5YjncSZHY7_vw

 

[johnwester130]

https://banned.video/watch?id=62ba3b180dc3e84a799b6a37

 

[FrostedShores]

We're living in the mouse utopia experiment.

 

[aniciete]

...

View: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1543603645589045248?s=21&t=GQlx4ulvGd-kukEV1ubavQ

 

[Regina]

View: https://twitter.com/JOEBOTxyz/status/1547403495048851456

 

[Jerkboy]

View: https://twitter.com/JOEBOTxyz/status/1547403495048851456

It is kinda funny though