Record numbers of Western citizens identify as LGBTQ

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"Record numbers of Western citizens identify as LGBTQ"​


Read as "Record number of Western citizens are mentally ill"
 
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Most TV series have a lot of adult content. But it is fine as it is on public tv ? (where children can watch it).

It is both done on purpose while also reflecting the increased desensitization of the general public to sexualized content. As they say, sex sells, and that is the primary mechanism through which TV firms sell their stuff. Creativity and good intelligent plot is secondary these days. So once people get desensitized to a certain level of X-rated content in TV shows, the only way (in the minds of the producers) to sell more is to make it even more sexualized.
 
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"Record numbers of Western citizens identify as LGBTQ"​


Read as "Record number of Western citizens are mentally ill"

Probably true.
 
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He's the one who said "go look at PH's front page." (post #36) Rather than use something like page view increases by tag or niche sites that he seems to be talking about, or even recommending a study (I found a few small ones on Pubmed. I didn't bother with SciHub etc but you get my point). Thing is, I grew up in and live in a conservative area and I'm very familiar with guys BSing that they know something but totally not from experience. So all my life experience says "wait, this doesn't pass the smell test." It's also a ridiculous starting point.

Look, the mainstream stuff in the USA is really just catching up to German stuff from the 80's and 90's. Except maybe the whole "overpay women to get them to do interracial stuff." Also the Reddit comment from post #46 started as a Japanese thing and while I think it's awful, it's not some new escalating thing. I can't believe I sound like I'm defending this stuff, but the whole set of posts talking about p*rn are "ok boomer" come to life.
I think we can agree that Germans weren't sticking pp up the pooter 100 years ago. I think we can also agree that the liberal trends hit Euro cities before American cities (maybe NYC and LA are exceptions).

I think You'd go much further with a means of communication, called, "a good faith argument." If you think Georgi wants to look at graphic porn, when he's condemning it, you should applaud his condemnation, and not speak to any issue you think he has that he's not proud of - it's not even part of the discussion, it's just uninvited conjecture.

You can condemn porn and still struggle with it. I've struggled with centerfold-style porn since I was a kid - I don't hide that - and I've always been (and will be) a rural, conservative, Christian. This actually enforces my point of social norms and ads affecting desire... I only wanted to see pretty boobies at like 11, and I go to a website and there's a ton of graphic ads (as well as Paris Hilton's BJ scene - which freaked me out so much - I was so screwed). I can say for a fact, these ads have gotten way worse in the last 15 years. I can confidently say most teen boys who want to see Kirsten Dunst in the Spiderman upside-down-kiss rain scene, aren't looking for a gif with a penis in a vagina - let alone a plot of incest or anal. I was so disgusted the first time I saw a penis when searching for topless ladies - it took years to get used to it. There was a time around 20-23, where with a combination of horrible stress, emotional pain, and unmet desires, my brain would deconstruct, "what's actually disgusting about homo stuff?" If I never saw so much penis action in porn (strait stuff), I'd probably have been too repulsed for my mind to wonder there.
 
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Thanks @Josiah Baldwin! I thought I sensed nefariousness in his comments, but I did not want to say anything until I had some independent confirmation. Other forum members contacted me about this too, so now I know I am not overreacting...especially after his response above.

So, @LuMonty - me suggesting "check PH page" for verification is somehow BS-ing?? Lol, just when I thought I'd seen it all on the forum...

Well, since your BS radar works so well, let me tell you what mine says - it strikes me as very odd for a good Christian wife to be asking such passive-aggressive questions about a complete stranger's p0rn knowledge!

Oh, I almost forgot - my "wife" is now asking in turn how come you know so much about German p0rn and its implied weirdness, and/or US catching up to it??:angelic:
of course bro. I don't see why he even wanted to invalidate your argument. I mean, even if everyone's watched graphic porn for the last 300 years, normalization is bad, and it was obviously normalized 310 years prior...
 

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The Bible speaks of them in Genesis 19 of sodom and gomorrah, and God sent fire down destroying all but Lot and his family; although his wife turned into a pillar of salt. In this city even the children were corrupted by them. In the New Testament the letter of Jude especially addresses this.

Read Genesis 19 here:

Besides the consideration of environmental factors, it is caused by being pure evil. There are degrees of sin and Romans 1 describes a reprobate mind. It would be similar to a dog with rabies.
Steven Anderson a strange preacher and others like him have interesting sermons entitled: the doctrine of reprobation, which explains many of the causations.
I would not trust children around any of them.
I believe that they desire to defile anyone/anything they can, the more pure they perceive someone the more they desire to corrupt.

Romans 1:
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Jude 1:7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
 

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@Josiah Baldwin then he shouldn't suggest it as a silver bullet. Would you fine being asked to do so? In other words, if haidut had told you to look at PH front page instead of me, what would you have said? And from a discussion standpoint, a single data point means nothing when his claim is over a long period of time. Not only that, but it was his phrasing that was my main issue. If he doesn't have a frame of reference, how can he make such a claim? I'm asking him for clarification, and I did so by pointing out what he wrote. No one forced him to make that post with two apparently contradictory statements. More critically, a few links and "check PH" doesn't establish a ten year trend (his timespan choice).

I had a Christian friend like you. The commonality between you two is that I could say something like what I have in this topic, and that would be seen as me advocating for p*rn. He knew it was the opposite for me; I had my struggles but am anti-p*rn. A big issue was that he would be salty because I struggled less than him. For him, his problem with p*rn was a way to control others and he would bemoan that he's seen boobs. Like centerfold stuff. So my casual comment one time was that I was glad he hadn't seen hardcore stuff* was seen by him as me trying to corrupt him. This despite him starting the conversation. I was just being open, honest, and trying to change his frame of mind from something catastrophic to something realistic and controllable.

I think you're intelligent enough to know that my point was a matter of setting the trend that haidut has refused to establish himself (while recommending something you agree with me about morally, checking PH front page). From a discussion standpoint, it looks to me you and I agree, yet you're trying to brownnose him when he asked for the immoral action. Plus if all three of us(?) think it's disgusting, I don't see your response to him that it's a sick idea; why should I be your target? I don't take it personally btw. I just think you should be consistent both as a Christian and as a matter of discussion.

*clarification, his father was a raging drunk and showed him hardcore p*rn at a young age; at the time of discussion, it was unclear to me if he chose to view it himself since then or not
 
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if haidut had told you to look at PH front page instead of me, what would you have said? [...]
My good faith, took it as an obvious rhetorical question; I took it as no ill will from Haidut. Regardless of what Haidut meant, one can look at something anyway without it being sin... It’s what you do between your ears that counts :)

This is why “good faith,” is important. Even if Haidut wanted you to go jerk off to porn for an hour, he didn’t say that. So Don’t Make that assumption for the totally selfish reason of preserving your time (if you’re not gonna extend best intentions to someone else), and save your time from the internet lol... here I am wasting my time on the internet with a stranger insulting me claiming I stuck my nose up Haidut’s butt, oh my lands!!
Sounds like German stuff!
 

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I agree with Jordan Peterson on this. I watched a couple of his class lectures where he would tell the students, "You are not harmless."
But TPTB know this. Hence all the "harmless" seeming "leaders" cropping up all over the place. Lori Lightfoot, the Minneapolis mayor, Trudeau, Buttigieg, Beto, senile harmless Biden, woke NATO. They can't just put up Bush, Cheney neo-cons. Just have limp-wristed harmless people sell the same fascist crap.
Operation Trust morphs to Operation Confuse.
 

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Multiple studies have shown that females are much more fluid sexually than males. A healthy female will have spikes of estrogen during estrus and around that time they are sexually "aggressive" - i.e. both inviting advances and hitting on others themselves. Around estrus, "hetero" females have been shown to be most open to making out with other girls, though the data shows that in general females are a lot less opposed to it than males, even outside estrus. Males, in general, do not have such large, regular hormonal swings.

On dairy farms, cows trail other cows, sniff other cows, and allow themselves to be mounted by other cows during estrus. Dairy farmers note this girl on girl action as the most trustworthy signal that the cow is ready for insemination. The mounting can be so frequent that the skin off the cow's rump is frictioned off if the farmer doesn't notice on time.
 

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The study is actually about the US, but other studies show the numbers for other "developed" countries are at least as high. Here is a study that compared the US to other countries.

Make of that what you will, but since most of the LGBTQ won't have/raise children, these numbers are probably thrilling for the depopulation crowd at Davos. The discussions going on in the thread on gender conflicts below touched upon some related issues such as endocrine disruptors, stress, etc.

Oh, and once again the young are leading the pack - about 1 in 5 (20%) GenZ/Millennials identify as LGBTQ. So, it looks like the stereotype about the "closet gay Boomer" is not backed up by the evidence, Btw, the rates in younger people may be even higher than the study reports because the youngest subjects of the study also had the highest rates of refusing to provide info on their sexual orientation.

"...The number of adult Americans who identify as something other than heterosexual has risen to a record 7.1%, a new Gallup phone survey revealed on Thursday. The metric has more than doubled since 2012, the first year the company started tracking such data. Then, 3.5% of respondents who volunteered their sexual orientation and/or gender identity said they were part of the LGBTQ community. The increase reflects a wider relevance of such identities among younger generations, the polling agency said. Among GenZs, or people born between 1997 and 2003, 20.8% of people identified as LGBTQ. For comparison, only 2.6% of Baby Boomers, born between 1946 and 1964, responded that way. Millennials (born 1981-1996, in Gallup’s terms) were the second-largest age group in terms of LGBTQ representation, but were also among the least likely to name their identity. Some 7.1% declined to answer that question, on par with people born before 1949. Among GenZs, only 3.5% didn’t want to divulge this information. Most of the growth in LGBTQ identification was among GenZ and Millenials, with the percentage of such people among older generations remaining stable over the years. For GenZ, it doubled since 2017, when the metric stood at 10.5%. Over the years, a greater portion of the generation reached adulthood and became eligible for Gallup’s poll, it noted."
Probably has to do with the general social climate rather than more people “wanting” to be gay. Take that kind of poll in a country that chops peoples heads off for being gay, and the number will be different. Even if done anonymously.
 
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On dairy farms, cows trail other cows, sniff other cows, and allow themselves to be mounted by other cows during estrus. Dairy farmers note this girl on girl action as the most trustworthy signal that the cow is ready for insemination. The mounting can be so frequent that the skin off the cow's rump is frictioned off if the farmer doesn't notice on time.

Very interesting, didn't know that! Thanks for mentioning. I had heard of female farm animals going into estrus triggering other females around them doing the same (I guess it is akin to the women synchronizing their periods when living together), but did not know they also made girl-on-girl advances.
 
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On dairy farms, cows trail other cows, sniff other cows, and allow themselves to be mounted by other cows during estrus. Dairy farmers note this girl on girl action as the most trustworthy signal that the cow is ready for insemination. The mounting can be so frequent that the skin off the cow's rump is frictioned off if the farmer doesn't notice on time.
To be fair, do we know if this is sexual, or some other cue in a grooming sense, akin to bridesmaids of a soon-to-be human wife?

Like, how people advise and psychologically prepare for a spouse; animals can’t do that.

Maybe they just replicate the sexual act with the “friend to be,” for prep purposes? Silly but possible... IMO It makes more sense than cows being so horny they’re gay, yet not getting the same stimulation as coital penetration. It’s clearly in sync with their cycle, implying hormones are functioning optimally. Maybe a way to control for this, would be to observe them in a natural coed herd... maybe they are horny and lack of bulls makes them compensate with other cows?

We can only interpret what’s going on, because they’re animals who can’t speak or have opposable thumbs. But, It’s Cool to postulate that they’re prepping for marriage, lol.
 
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Ray Has said how many issues are caused by consuming the pith of coconut, causing endotoxemia.
Me thinks it's not the pure fat part that's bad.
without being able to break down whether they consume both, or one over the other, I will only make an inference.

there can be multiple things happening at once... that's why relying heavily on correlation isn't always sound.
 

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It's partly conditioning, partly economic and political factors oppressing men for the sake of women. Another part is surely the hormones themselves. One perhaps counterintuitive effect of a T-deficient society is an increase in bullying as well as intolerance for minority opinions. Common thinking would probably attribute these domineering behaviors to masculinity in general (or toxic masculinity) but in school situations the higher T students are not the bullies, the lower T students are. You can therefore think of T and 'positive masculinity' as the opposite of bullying and gratuitous dominance and passive-aggression. It's more associated with relaxed and 'supple' state of being, like a muscle nicely toned and full of glycogen; it's characterized by confidence and security, hence a greater tolerance for 'free speech.' Today's masses are rabidly intolerant of all forms of heterodoxy. There are several fold more banned books in Germany today than in the 1930s. There aren't many banned books in America that I know of, but we have a roundabout way of achieving the same ends, through sanctions and dismissals. Increasingly, you hear people saying to buy up paper copies of books. Amazon chose to reference the actual burning of books with the name 'kindle,' etc.
 
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