Is Officially Taught History An Invention Of The Rich?

[Drareg]

You are making a fool of yourself.

If you don't know anything about jewry or national socialism, why do you even bother?

Your first post on a vague topic started by icecreamlover alluding to a Jewish conspiracy against humanity,clarify your stance on the topic icecreamlover started.
How many Jewish died in WW2?

You understand that not all money lenders were/are Jewish?
Do you understand not all Jewish worldwide and in Israel are rich?

I intend to make a fool of my life,you should try it you won't be so rigid in your views and not concerned with shame.

 

[Drareg]

The joke is that Tokyo was firebombed and has the same sort of damage as Hiromshima and Nagasaki which were supposedly hit by the most powerful bombs the world has ever seen ( at that time ).

Firebombing of Tokyo - Mar 09, 1945 - HISTORY.com

How many Jewsih do believe died/murdered in WW2?
Why won't you answer this question?

 

[Entropy]

The stone-hedges were just restored.. From 1920's and 1950's

1919-1920

 

[SarahBeara]

The history of Ireland and England is a ball of knots, to be fair there is propaganda on both sides, Irish as white slaves was rumoured to be created by the Irish, there were no Irish slaves,the famous picture were criminals or what the times deemed criminal behaviour,those Irish shipped to plantations choose to go there in search of a better life,they also had better working conditions and treatment than the African people,they were in many cases assisting the owners in the enslavment of the Africans.

What's impressive with the Irish is how such a small population could match the propaganda and intelligence organisations of what was at the time the strongest Empire in history.

I'd actually never ever heard the white slaves thing, is that maybe something only propagated by Irish Americans? We didn't really need to go making stuff up because there was enough true things to indict the English for their many abuses, which all their colonial victims had to endure. So to reduce it to a 'oh there was propaganda on both sides' is a little glib IMO.

Probably why we won independence (sort of-not fully until 1945) was that the crown didn't really care hugely about holding on to us, we had no great resources, and were a guaranteed military ally (if a covert one in WWII as we had no one to maintain an facade of neutrality).

 

[michael94]

The stone-hedges were just restored.. From 1920's and 1950's

1919-1920

not true. Stonehenge was first designed by inigo jones and later completed after modern inventions allowed for it. Real stone is quite heavy you know...

By the way guys I had myself radio-carbon dated...and I am in fact 5000 years old.

 

[haidut]

not true. Stonehenge was first designed by inigo jones and later completed after modern inventions allowed for it. Real stone is quite heavy you know...

By the way guys I had myself radio-carbon dated...and I am in fact 5000 years old.

That last part, about carbon dating - very interesting. So, what is the explanation of the results suggesting you came into being 5,000 years ago?

 

[Entropy]

not true. Stonehenge was first designed by inigo jones and later completed after modern inventions allowed for it. Real stone is quite heavy you know...

What does that picture prove? Some of the stone hedges were restored with concrete which wasn't "hidden" from the public.

None of the photos you posted prove anything besides the site was restored which the details are documented. Those photos are from a British Heritage website ViewFinder - Search Results

And your source is with Inigo?

I'm only finding that Inigo Jones was sent by King James to reconstruct the layout of the original design and the site ruins where already there. Indigo Jones argued it was built my the Romans, until Aubrey and Stukeley associated it with Druids.

 

[michael94]

That last part, about carbon dating - very interesting. So, what is the explanation of the results suggesting you came into being 5,000 years ago?

Was a joke :)

What does that picture prove? Some of the stone hedges were restored with concrete which wasn't "hidden" from the public.

None of the photos you posted prove anything besides the site was restored which the details are documented. Those photos are from a British Heritage website ViewFinder - Search Results

And your source is with Inigo?

I'm only finding that Inigo Jones was sent by King James to reconstruct the layout of the original design and the site ruins where already there. Indigo Jones argued it was built my the Romans, until Aubrey and Stukeley associated it with Druids.

Yes they were "restored" just like the Giza monuments were "uncovered". The monuments never existed, ever. Authentic stones of that size are so incredibly heavy even in the 1950s they had to use steel shells covered in concrete/plaster just to have any chance at lifting them...and cement foundations to keep from sinking into the salisbury plain. I'm sure there were leftover stones there from previous failed attempts. Live and learn!

But that phoneyhenge never existed is not even the point. The point is that radio-carbon dating is 100% baloney....invented to create a fraudulent timeline of history.

 

[michael94]

Take a look at how many times this arts and crafts project has been radio carbon dated at 4000+ years old. LMAO. And they move the date back further every time.

 

[haidut]

Was a joke :)



Yes they were "restored" just like the Giza monuments were "uncovered". The monuments never existed, ever. Authentic stones of that size are so incredibly heavy even in the 1950s they had to use steel shells covered in concrete/plaster just to have any chance at lifting them...and cement foundations to keep from sinking into the salisbury plain. I'm sure there were leftover stones there from previous failed attempts. Live and learn!

But that phoneyhenge never existed is not even the point. The point is that radio-carbon dating is 100% baloney....invented to create a fraudulent timeline of history.

The part about carbon dating being unreliable has evidence behind it. It looks like the half-life of radioactive carbon depends on sun activity (among other things) and can vary quite a bit.
Radiocarbon dating considerations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The strange case of solar flares and radioactive elements
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2008/oct/02/the-mystery-of-the-varying-nuclear-decay

 

[Entropy]

Was a joke :)


Yes they were "restored" just like the Giza monuments were "uncovered". The monuments never existed, ever. Authentic stones of that size are so incredibly heavy even in the 1950s they had to use steel shells covered in concrete/plaster just to have any chance at lifting them...and cement foundations to keep from sinking into the salisbury plain. I'm sure there were leftover stones there from previous failed attempts. Live and learn!

But that phoneyhenge never existed is not even the point. The point is that radio-carbon dating is 100% baloney....invented to create a fraudulent timeline of history.

Yeah... that's the whole point with their on going mystery revolving around them, they're incredibly heavy stones which brought a lot of attention to them and stories of folk lore far before people were even capable of restoring or carbon dating.

There's evidence of the stones erect prior to 1900's. The earliest recorded text of them are in the 14th century in Henry Huntington’s Historia Anglorum. And eye-witness sketches of few capped pillars or trilithons erect from the 15h century. But you'd probably argue those text are also fabrications..

I was looking for more evidence for your claims but there's very little, actually nothing at all, but thanks for your opinion.

 

[Such_Saturation]

But how's the world 157 years old if the bible was written 2000 years ago?

 

[Stramonium]

I found it odd that art history taught at my design faculty was mainly eurocentrist.

 

[mt_dreams]

So you're definitely sure I'm a real person and not a computer? If so how are you sure? It's a genuine question, because most of us walk through life assuming that yes, the pyramids were built 5,000 years ago because there are thousands of unrelated people who have found this to be the case and that a vast conspiracy of that scale would not only be unbelievably hard to pull off but also the ROI is piss poor. A better easier conspiracy is that all the people who are prone to not buying the party line and perhaps instigate an actual revolution being distracted by made-up conspiracies that are so absurd to the common man, those that believe in them are labelled as lunatics by the mainstream.

Wouldn't that be far more effective?

I don't believe they've been able to distinguish how old the pyramids are due to the fact they cant carbon date it. If you want to work in the field, you have to go along with current dates from the Smithsonian. hancock believes they're even older than the flood using water marking findings. icecreamlover believe they're only a couple hundred years old. Someday we'll have technology that will answer this question, but for the time being, we're have to wait.

Your first post on a vague topic started by icecreamlover alluding to a Jewish conspiracy against humanity,clarify your stance on the topic icecreamlover started.
How many Jewish died in WW2?

You understand that not all money lenders were/are Jewish?
Do you understand not all Jewish worldwide and in Israel are rich?

I intend to make a fool of my life,you should try it you won't be so rigid in your views and not concerned with shame.

who cares how many jewish people died? even using the high estimates, it pales in comparison with the slaughtering of the russians. the bigger question to ask is who may have wanted this to happen? and by who, I mean zionists?
for clarification seeing as you've got antiseminism crown on, by zionists, I don't mean regular jewish people, like the ones living in your neighborhood ... they're as good or bad as everyone else.

 

[jaguar43]

Meaning "I haven't researched or read about it, therefore it can't be true".

No, I have looked into some of those things. I don't see any real evidence of it in my honest opinion

Probably because they are aware that capitalism is just a tool used by the elite (this isn't a euphemistic term for Jews, I don't think the Jews control everything) to enslave people... just like communism and pretty much every other -ism. It's a symptom, not the root cause.

No, it's because they want to fit into a paradigm that is neutral on certain issues. I am reminded of Antony Sutton who said the same thing as you. That capitalism and communism are the same and are used to control people. But yet he preached libertarian ideology and quoted jefferson and the constitution. Apparently he never got the memo that libertarianism is capitalism.

Ever heard of the Rothschilds? George Soros? Why not?

The banking system in the U.S and western Europe was developed long before George Soros was born. Plus George Soros doesn't run the federal Reserve nor he isn't the Secretary of Treasury. Again, you imply that there are certain qualities that jewish people have, and because banking system has some of those characteristics. Therefore the system is run by jewish people. I think thats pretty anti-semitic.

Also why is US politics notoriously - and fervently - pro-Israel? Are there any political candidates who aren't Zionists?

One of the reasons why the US is pro-Israel is because Protestantism. Southern Baptist like Ted Cruz and others believe that when Jesus returns from the dead. He will go to Jerusalem. So what better way to get on the side of the "choose one" is to help the country in which he is suppose to return from the dead.

I'm sure I'll get all kinds of ***t for this but - why does ISIS never attack Israel? Shouldn't it be a prime target?

ISIS doesn't attack Israel because it was created by the State Department. Religious fanaticism is the antithesis to secular nations that believe in self determination and economic independence. The religious fanatics are everywhere, whether christians, muslims, judaism ect. It's a geopolitical strategy.

Just asking.

Ok.

 

[michael94]

I was looking for more evidence for your claims but there's very little, actually nothing at all, but thanks for your opinion.

That's a fair point and well taken...if I had iron clad evidence I would provide it. I just "know" when you have the ability to cherrypick about carbon testing random garbage in an area you can get all sorts of "evidence". How can you carbon date a stone? You can't. Even if you could, c-14 testing has so many problems I'm convinced it's rarely useful at all.

C14 Deception

Basically, dendrochronology ( tree ring dating ) is reliant on Carbon-14 testing and vice-versa.

 

[Drareg]

I'd actually never ever heard the white slaves thing, is that maybe something only propagated by Irish Americans? We didn't really need to go making stuff up because there was enough true things to indict the English for their many abuses, which all their colonial victims had to endure. So to reduce it to a 'oh there was propaganda on both sides' is a little glib IMO.

Probably why we won independence (sort of-not fully until 1945) was that the crown didn't really care hugely about holding on to us, we had no great resources, and were a guaranteed military ally (if a covert one in WWII as we had no one to maintain an facade of neutrality).

I'm trying to look at it from a human perspective rather than labels and flags.
It was an Irish man that allowed strongbow entry to Ireland that started all of this ,Ireland also accepted the pope and Christianity. Ruairi O'Concuhbhair had chances to oust any English many times after strongbow got in.

It wasn't a case of the British empire not interested in holding onto Ireland for lack of resources, the Irish combined intelligence with ruthlessness, over 20 high level intelligence officers killed in one morning on the order of Michael Collins,some of these officers thought they were anonymous,this sent shockwaves through what was the best intelligence organisation in human history.
Add to that continued boycotts and general disruption and refusal to engage for centuries,the term boycott originated from the Irish behaviour toward landlords,it was creative intelligence that deeply concerned leaders of the empire,basically the leaders knew they were going to be directly targeted, Michael Collins was going for the jugular and proving he could get at it.

My point of the above would be that it was mainly a select few individuals on both sides deciding the fate of millions,remember many English during these times would not have cared to invade Ireland,it's those at he top on both sides are the issue.
Both sides create propaganda that exaggerates the people of the land they are going to invade so as to win public opinion,modern day example is the recent invasion of Libya.

Either way out of respect for Northern Ireland both sides of this argument need to leave the past where it is,it serves no purpose to the future of the kids in the North of Ireland to play a historical blame game.

 

[Drareg]

Was a joke :)



Yes they were "restored" just like the Giza monuments were "uncovered". The monuments never existed, ever. Authentic stones of that size are so incredibly heavy even in the 1950s they had to use steel shells covered in concrete/plaster just to have any chance at lifting them...and cement foundations to keep from sinking into the salisbury plain. I'm sure there were leftover stones there from previous failed attempts. Live and learn!

But that phoneyhenge never existed is not even the point. The point is that radio-carbon dating is 100% baloney....invented to create a fraudulent timeline of history.

Your creating random strawman after strawman.
You have provided no evidence,do you do this to let everyone know your a hero rebel type intellectual.

Your currently deluded and will use any cause that allows you to project xenophobic rage.

 

[Drareg]

I don't believe they've been able to distinguish how old the pyramids are due to the fact they cant carbon date it. If you want to work in the field, you have to go along with current dates from the Smithsonian. hancock believes they're even older than the flood using water marking findings. icecreamlover believe they're only a couple hundred years old. Someday we'll have technology that will answer this question, but for the time being, we're have to wait.



who cares how many jewish people died? even using the high estimates, it pales in comparison with the slaughtering of the russians. the bigger question to ask is who may have wanted this to happen? and by who, I mean zionists?
for clarification seeing as you've got antiseminism crown on, by zionists, I don't mean regular jewish people, like the ones living in your neighborhood ... they're as good or bad as everyone else.

I'm guessing the Jewish care how many died along with other intelligent human beings for fear of another psychopath like Hitler gets into power.

What's your definition of Zionism?
Have you got your information on Zionism from a YouTube video with emotionally stimulating music in the background?

 

[Drareg]

That's a fair point and well taken...if I had iron clad evidence I would provide it. I just "know" when you have the ability to cherrypick about carbon testing random garbage in an area you can get all sorts of "evidence". How can you carbon date a stone? You can't. Even if you could, c-14 testing has so many problems I'm convinced it's rarely useful at all.

C14 Deception

Basically, dendrochronology ( tree ring dating ) is reliant on Carbon-14 testing and vice-versa.

Your still OK with just a small few Jewish people being slaughtered because they are Jewish in WW2, you are still claiming the holocaust did not take place?