Unbelievable Climate Change BS

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I will never understand climate change deniers. How blind can you not see the global rise in temperatures, the increasing frequency of natural disasters?
The debate is whether how much is it caused by humans or it would have happened anyway, but no doubt it's happening.
 
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I will never understand climate change deniers. How blind can you not see the global rise in temperatures, the increasing frequency of natural disasters?
The debate is whether how much is it caused by humans or it would have happened anyway, but no doubt it's happening.
Perhaps we are blinded by the riveting science cooked up by our leaders, some of which have been posted on the forum. You will find them if you read those posts. However, if you don’t have time to read then please dazzle us with your own research material. All good thesis need evidence, please provide.
 

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I will never understand climate change deniers. How blind can you not see the global rise in temperatures, the increasing frequency of natural disasters?
The debate is whether how much is it caused by humans or it would have happened anyway, but no doubt it's happening.

You'r just falling for the propaganda. Temps have been rising since the end of the Little Ice Age. Perfectly natural; man had nothing to do with it. However, in the last 10-20 years temps haven't risen; they've leveled out and in fact have dropped a bit while CO2 has gone up at the same steady rate. Natural disasters were much worse and more common almost a century and more ago. The heat waves of the 1930s were much worse than what we've been experiencing. Check out the Great Flood of 1862 and some of the hurricanes in the early part of the 20th century.
 
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AN ESTIMATE OF THE VOLUME OF PHANEROZOIC ICE

Christopher Scotese

Published Online:Fri, 8 Feb 2019

Abstract
We live in an “Ice House” world that has extensive ice cover at both poles. However, it has not always been this way. During the last 540 million years there have been only 4 other time intervals characterized by extensive polar ice caps (latest Ordovician, latest Devonian, Permo-Carboniferous, and late Cenozoic). The combined duration of these frigid intervals was approximately 160 million years, or ~30% of Phanerozoic history. During the remaining 380 million years the Earth lacked permanent polar ice caps, though some winter snow and ice may have accumulated at high latitudes during cool, greenhouse intervals (Silurian-early Devonian, late Jurassic – early Cretaceous). The modern ice house world is probably the most severe of all ice house worlds because it is the only time in Earth history when the North and South polar regions were concurrently glaciated. ....

ICE HOUSE EARTH
Humans have evolved during one of the most severe icehouse climates in Earth history. "lcehouse" climate is simply defined as a time when permanent ice covers one or both of the polar regions.
The Phanerozoic temperature curve shown in Figure 2 highlights the other times in Earth history when the polar regions were covered by ice and snow (inverted blue areas). Maximum icehouse conditions occurred 20,000 years ago, during the last glacial maximum (LGM). At that time, ~20% of the Earth was covered by snow and ice. Even today, during the winter months 11% of the Earth is covered by snow & ice.
There were other times in the Earth's distant past characterized by icehouse conditions comparable to our Modern ice house:
The Late Ordovician lcehouse (LOI), 450 Ma - 440 Ma,
the Permo-Carboniferous lcehouse (PCI), 360 Ma - 280 Ma,
and the Late Cenozoic lcehouse, 35 Ma - 0 Ma (LCI).
Other periods of modest cooling occurred during the Late Devonian (~360 Ma)
and the earliest Cretaceous (~130 Ma).
Not shown on Figure 2, is the most severe lcehouse of all time, the Neoproterozoic "Snowball Earth". At that time the entire Earth was covered by snow and ice.

What Makes an Icehouse World?
As shown in Figure 2, the Earth's climate fluctuates between "lcehouse" and "Hothouse" conditions.
What causes the climate to shift between Hothouse to lcehouse worlds? The answer is both simple and complex. The simple answer is that plate tectonic activity and the motion of the continents across the surface of the Earth drives global climate change. This is because plate tectonic activity, including volcanic eruptions triggered by processes deep in the mantle, regulates the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere and the reflectivity (albedo) of the surface of the Earth. The more complex answer is shown by the diagram in Figure 3.

The Earth's Seven Thermostats
We all use thermostats to regulate the temperature of our homes. Well, think of the Earth as a house with 7 different thermostats. These thermostats can be set to warm the Earth by increasing greenhouse gases or flooding the continents with broad shallow seas. Or, the thermostats can be set to make the Earth cooler by reducing greenhouse gases or creating wide desert belts. What's more, some of these thermostats are linked in complex ways.
If you set one thermostat higher, it may cause another thermostat to rise or fall. (If you'd like to learn more about "Earth's Seven Thermostats'', ask Chris to explain Figure 3 in more detail.)
The Earth's Seven Thermostats:
1. Greenhouse gases, including CO2.
2. The sun's brightness and orbital modulation of sunlight (Milankovitch Cycles).
3. The reflectivity (albedo) of the Earth's surface.
4. Continental Colisions and Mountain-Building (provide a sink for CO2)
5. Continental Rifting, Sea-Floor Spreading & Large Igneous Provinces (control sea level & provide a source of CO2).
6. The latitudinal position of the continents (affects albedo and vegetation).
7. Gulf Stream-type circulation and the temperature stratification of the oceans.
Figure 2:
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If anyone wants my opinion on the above, it is that human activity is only a drop in the ocean of earthly events.
 

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I will never understand climate change deniers. How blind can you not see the global rise in temperatures, the increasing frequency of natural disasters?
The debate is whether how much is it caused by humans or it would have happened anyway, but no doubt it's happening.
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Propaganda for the win…
 

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You'r just falling for the propaganda. Temps have been rising since the end of the Little Ice Age. Perfectly natural; man had nothing to do with it. However, in the last 10-20 years temps haven't risen; they've leveled out and in fact have dropped a bit while CO2 has gone up at the same steady rate. Natural disasters were much worse and more common almost a century and more ago. The heat waves of the 1930s were much worse than what we've been experiencing. Check out the Great Flood of 1862 and some of the hurricanes in the early part of the 20th century.
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@Lollipop2 That shows nothing. Don't come at me with such weak arguments. You are being programmed to hate the media/ the powers that be. How the media portrays it is irrelevant. The process goes on regardless.
 

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This graphic shows why the UK currently is experiencing such hot weather. When the jet stream becomes meridional (wavy) hot southern air is able to migrate into northern latitudes that it normally can't when the jet stream is zonal. At the same time colder arctic air moves further south in places making it cooler than normal, but we never hear about that on the news. CO2 has nothing to do with this phenomenon.

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@Lollipop2 That shows nothing. Don't come at me with such weak arguments. You are being programmed to hate the media/ the powers that be. How the media portrays it is irrelevant. The process goes on regardless.
? Go study Electric Universe Theory, The Safire Project, The Sky Scholar’s You Tube videos, Electroverse website. Do your research: don’t sit and demand someone hand spoon feed you. ESPECIALLY in the face of your lame arguments.
 

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