The "Social Justice" Cult & Elite Overproduction

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This is similar to what I typically say, @Hugh Johnson, great you bought this here: "The so called Left, is not leftist in any meaningful sense. Nor are these people Marxists."

Funny how people say USSR was socialist. Stalin only seized control over the means of production and what people should do, dictatorship/ fascist. True communism humanity wouldn't support a State Socialism nor the oxymoron State Communism, like Stalinism Maoism, and similar philosophies.
 
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The elites are not particularly bright. They are not the best and the brightest. They are first and foremost obedient.

Danny Roddy and haidut discussed this, I think. They noticed how difficult it is to even discuss things with college graduates.
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They do have institutional power, and the reason they are given is largely because they are obedient and can not think for themselves.

Makes me feel a bit better. Enjoyed the article

@LucyL this article is interesting too, I'm 10 pages in.
 
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This thread is very a propos for me, so thank you for posting it. I have my undergrad in international relations / international politics. I've lived in many countries and assimilated into many cultures over my lifetime, including second, third, and fourth language learning. I'm mentioning my qualifications because I'm a keen observer of social movements, especially in an historical context.

Lately I'm noticing a severe breakdown in discourse caused by both the extreme right and the extreme left. They both lack reason.

What extreme right? The extreme right hasn't been a factor in anything since 1945. Fascist Spain managed to linger on into the 70s or so...that's about it. Every mass cultural movement with significant weight and force behind it since then has come from the left, and lately the extreme left. What's considered "far right" today is what was considered the center just 20 years ago. Trump's Republicans are most similar to Bill Clinton's Democrats, by policy agenda. Things like gender fluidity, critical race theory, and gay marriage, are ultra-left wing positions... and here we are in 2020, where sodomy is the law of the land, corporations and government departments run training sessions that target a specific race for denigration (whites) as part of the HR curriculum, and multiculturalism via mass migration is official policy in many Western countries. Frankfurt School ideas have been mainstreamed into everyday life. Western Society is the most leftist it's ever been.

I think systemic racism is real. I think racism is a big problem in Europe and its offshoots. I also have seen with my own eyes that white privilege is a thing. And it's also contextual. Meaning, we judge things based on individual situations, but we shouldn't carte blanche anyone because of demographics or feelings. I also understand why some people are sick of talking about it after hundreds of years of tacit oppression from the dominant class. Decades of peaceful protest have done jack.

Racism is everywhere, not just white countries. It's hardwired into biology. You'll find it in China, Africa, the Middle East, everywhere, all throughout history. That being said, I think the systemic racism that SJW's talk about is a fool's errand; an alleged system of racism so pervasive that, like a fish in water, we can't even perceive or prove it...but we are convinced it must exist. FWIW I've experienced what actual institutional racism looks like, written into law, growing up (don't worry; it was the 'good' kind of racism - black on white!)

When non-whites complain about white privilege and detail to me what that actually means to them, I realize they're basically bitching about wanting to live in the white man's world, but not wanting to conform to white man's culture (get the benefits, but not play by the rules). I think we think far too much in terms of oppressors and victims when we should be thinking in terms of producers and non-producers, winners and losers. In the long run, on the time scale of decades and centuries, it's Darwin's world out there, not Gramsci's world. To me this way oppressor/victim way of looking at the world out there is a sign of a civilization that has grown soft and coddled - and now it thinks it can coddle everyone else.

The police are killing people, sometimes indiscriminately. I get it.

BLM = false narrative. African Americans are overwhelmingly most likely to be murdered by other blacks; blacks are far more likely to victimize whites in interracial crime than vice versa; and most damning of all, cops are statistically far more likely to be killed by black Americans than vice versa. The fact that BLM has gained so much traction and raised so much $$$ is an indictment of people's ignorance.
 

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What extreme right? The extreme right hasn't been a factor in anything since 1945. Fascist Spain managed to linger on into the 70s or so...that's about it. Every mass cultural movement with significant weight and force behind it since then has come from the left, and lately the extreme left. What's considered "far right" today is what was considered the center just 20 years ago. Trump's Republicans are most similar to Bill Clinton's Democrats, by policy agenda. Things like gender fluidity, critical race theory, and gay marriage, are ultra-left wing positions... and here we are in 2020, where sodomy is the law of the land, corporations and government departments run training sessions that target a specific race for denigration (whites) as part of the HR curriculum, and multiculturalism via mass migration is official policy in many Western countries. Frankfurt School ideas have been mainstreamed into everyday life. Western Society is the most leftist it's ever been.



Racism is everywhere, not just white countries. It's hardwired into biology. You'll find it in China, Africa, the Middle East, everywhere, all throughout history. That being said, I think the systemic racism that SJW's talk about is a fool's errand; an alleged system of racism so pervasive that, like a fish in water, we can't even perceive or prove it...but we are convinced it must exist. FWIW I've experienced what actual institutional racism looks like, written into law, growing up (don't worry; it was the 'good' kind of racism - black on white!)

When non-whites complain about white privilege and detail to me what that actually means to them, I realize they're basically bitching about wanting to live in the white man's world, but not wanting to conform to white man's culture (get the benefits, but not play by the rules). I think we think far too much in terms of oppressors and victims when we should be thinking in terms of producers and non-producers, winners and losers. In the long run, on the time scale of decades and centuries, it's Darwin's world out there, not Gramsci's world. To me this way oppressor/victim way of looking at the world out there is a sign of a civilization that has grown soft and coddled - and now it thinks it can coddle everyone else.



BLM = false narrative. African Americans are overwhelmingly most likely to be murdered by other blacks; blacks are far more likely to victimize whites in interracial crime than vice versa; and most damning of all, cops are statistically far more likely to be killed by black Americans than vice versa. The fact that BLM has gained so much traction and raised so much $$$ is an indictment of people's ignorance.

Spain's dirty traitor of a king is on the run now, as he should be. There's no due justice for such a person in this world
 

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How To Not Be Racist - Leo Kearse (Stand Up Comedy)

"I grew up in the 90s. If you didn't want to be a racist in the 90s it was simple: You just weren't a racist and then you weren't a racist. It was a system that made a lot of sense at that time."

 
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