Charlottesville Event Confirmed For CIA Op

[x-ray peat]

Do George Soros and Bill Clinton have some sort of blood borne cannibal disease? they just reek of ugly.

lol, either that or they are due for their next transfusion of young blood. Some of the Hillary pictures are worse, though I think she uses a double so it depends on which one you are looking at.

 

[theLaw]

Do George Soros and Bill Clinton have some sort of blood borne cannibal disease? they just reek of ugly.

Clinton is apparently on the Dean Ornish diet (vegan).

 

[Badger]

What is especially devilish about the cultural Marxists, is that they don't have to use rational arguments and evidence to bring in large numbers of people to their side. They simply have to give attention to a sufficiently evil entity - whether correctly identified as such does not matter - and identify it with certain beliefs and ideas the left wishes to discredit. So if you want to discredit 2 + 2 = 4, make sure you broadcast that Hitler believed it was untrue, and/or that Mao believed it was untrue, and/or that Vlad the Impaler or Dracula believed it was untrue, and/or the Gestapo believed it was untrue, and/or Snidely Whiplash believed it was untrue, and many other people will agree 2 + 2 does not = 4, because they don't want to be known as those who believe something everybody knows is believed by evil people, as it implies anybody believing it is evil, and many will believe they are evil for this reason. And who wants to be thought of as evil?

So normal and objective people try to offer reasonable counter ideas or objections to ideas that are dubious, such as leftist identity politics, or that tearing down civil war statues is destructive of accurate historical awareness or wrongly judges men of a different era out of context, etc. But for Soros, the Deep State, alt lefties, they respond to this by loudly proclaiming neo-nazis (and other clubs of bad people) believe these things. So JEEZE, if f'king NEONAZIS believe it, then DAMN, it MUST be wrong!! You don't even need to argue it when neonazis believe it! So this is a concise and almost elegant tactic for the alt left to short-circuit any logical and constructive thinking about issues they don't want questioned or analyzed, to minimize the risk that rational, standards-based critical analysis concludes in rejecting ideas the alt left wants propagated.

 

[LUH 3417]

What is especially devilish about the cultural Marxists, is that they don't have to use rational arguments and evidence to bring in large numbers of people to their side. They simply have to give attention to a sufficiently evil entity - whether correctly identified as such does not matter - and identify it with certain beliefs and ideas the left wishes to discredit. So if you want to discredit 2 + 2 = 4, make sure you broadcast that Hitler believed it was untrue, and/or that Mao believed it was untrue, and/or that Vlad the Impaler or Dracula believed it was untrue, and/or the Gestapo believed it was untrue, and/or Snidely Whiplash believed it was untrue, and many other people will agree 2 + 2 does not = 4, because they don't want to be known as those who believe something everybody knows is believed by evil people, as it implies anybody believing it is evil, and many will believe they are evil for this reason. And who wants to be thought of as evil?

So normal and objective people try to offer reasonable counter ideas or objections to ideas that are dubious, such as leftist identity politics, or that tearing down civil statues is destructive of accurate historical awareness or wrongly judges men of a different era out of context, etc. But for Soros, the Deep State, alt lefties, they respond to this by loudly proclaiming neo-nazis (and other clubs of bad people) believe these things. So JEEZE, if f'king NEONAZIS believe it, then DAMN, it MUST be wrong!! You don't even need to argue it when neonazis believe it! So this is a concise and almost elegant tactic for the alt left to short-circuit any logical and constructive thinking about issues they don't want questioned or analyzed, to minimize the risk that rational, standards-based critical analysis concludes in rejecting ideas the alt left wants propagated.

Don't they have a term for it, virtue signaling?

 

[Badger]

True, they want you to think they are pure as the driven snow.

Don't they have a term for it, virtue signaling?

 

[Badger]

These people are like Al Queda or the Taleban in another way: they are binary, all or nothing. Those who agree with the alt left are good and true, and those who don't agree with them are bad and false. All fueled by tremendous anger and rage and an absolute, unassailable conviction they are morally superior to all who disagree with them. Their crazy ideas comprise their very identity. To question or attack their ideas is to question or attack their very identity.

 

[LUH 3417]

These people are like Al Queda or the Taleban in another way: they are binary, all or nothing. Those who agree with the alt left are good and true, and those who don't agree with them are bad and false. All fueled by tremendous anger and rage and an absolute, unassailable conviction they are morally superior to all who disagree with them.

That's true but relativism is destructive in it's own way so what are we left with? no pun intenddd

 

[Badger]

Good one: "so what are we left with"

That's true but relativism is destructive in it's own way so what are we left with? no pun intenddd

 

[LUH 3417]

Good one: "so what are we left with"

Thereby what had been called good is renamed as evil. And, just like that, what had been bad is now the good.

 

[Badger]

In satanic religion circles, they call it the "law of inversion." That's why, if you ever see pictures of black masses and pictures dominated by satanic religious imagery, you will see upside down crosses, for example. Satan imitates by inversion. In a satanic world, symbols and everything eventually has become inverted, including morality and ethics.

What stated here about the Eye of Sauron from Tolkien's "Lord of the Ring" shares some nuances about this in symbols:
"The Great Seal not only degraded the once sacred Eye of Providence into an emblem of collective utilitarianism and humanistic progress, however. As the character of the United States continues to degenerate, so too does the meaning of the Great Seal which represents such a global empire. "President Franklin D. Roosevelt, a 32nd degree mason, opted to print the Great Seal on the one-dollar bill under the influence of fellow mason Henry Wallace in 1934, coinciding with the dictatorial New Deal. Since then, the ‘big government’ practices of the United States have ceaselessly expanded, and the All-Seeing Eye has gained a new association, that of the all-powerful, all-seeing surveillance of the Leviathan State. J.R.R. Tolkien’s image of the Eye of Sauron in The Lord of the Rings demonstrates how a traditionally sacred image of Divinity can just as fittingly depict the inverse, evil nature of the symbol: the ever watchful Eye of Sauron represents not benevolent omniscience, but rather nefarious surveillance and control.

As the global-encompassing dominance of the modern, anti-traditional civilization continues to spread its influence, one is left to speculate on the intentions behind those who implemented such a powerful symbol as the All-Seeing Eye as a national, monetary, and now corporate emblem (see Vigilant Citizen’s article 'Pyramid and All-Seeing Eye: Their Occult Meaning and Use in Corporate Logos'). Is this simply an unconscious manifestation of malefic forces? Or is it possible that, like the Nazi regime, there are those who secretly use the inverted charge of powerful sacred symbols as a means to gain dominance over the unsuspecting public?"
A World Turned Upside Down: The Inversion of Sacred Symbols
A World Turned Upside Down: The Inversion of Sacred Symbols | Mind Unclouded

In a post in this thread (or another?) I referred to the "end of the world" in various religions, and I can add here one other facet of this, and that is the end or destruction of the world is known to religions to be always preceded by the almost total inversion of meaning and form in virtually every aspect of life, either literally or symbolically. In the religious West, some see such an era as labeled the "reign of AntiChrist." The great French metaphysical writer Rene Guenon (very well know in Catholic and other religious circles in Europe in the 20th century, but almost unknown in the US) wrote much about this in his magisterial "The Reign of Quantity":

"Guenon sees history as a descent from Form (or Quality) toward Matter (or Quantity); but after the Reign of Quantity-modern materialism and the 'rise of the masses' - Guenon predicts a reign of 'inverted quality' just before the end of the age: the triumph of the 'counter-initiation', the kingdom of Antichrist." The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times

Thereby what had been called good is renamed as evil. And, just like that, what had been bad is now the good.

 

[thomas00]

ABC World News tonight stated the alt left - the "good guys" and pillars of virtue, right? - counterprotesters in Boston threw bottles of urine at the police today. And I recall from the news from the prior night people shrieking at Trump there is no "moral equivalence" between the neo Nazis and and alt left. This all reminds me of a superb article I just read by Paul Craig Roberts, who reveals the bottomless hypocrisy of the alt left Soroist opponents of Trump, and I strongly recommend reading it:

Bottles of piss

vs

harrassing a muslim women on a train and stabbing the two guys who tried to defend her to death, massacring an island's worth of young people, mowing down a bunch of people outside a mosque, going on a shooting rampage inside a mosque, a congressman punching a reporter in the face for asking a question, stabbing a British MP to death, mowing down a woman to death at a protest.

http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

 

[thomas00]

For those who are interested, Rebel Media (Lauren Southern, Faith Goldy, Gavin Mcinnes) is in free-fall :

That's hilarious.

 

[x-ray peat]

Bottles of piss
vs
harrassing a muslim women on a train and stabbing the two guys who tried to defend her to death, massacring an island's worth of young people, mowing down a bunch of people outside a mosque, going on a shooting rampage inside a mosque, a congressman punching a reporter in the face for asking a question, stabbing a British MP to death, mowing down a woman to death at a protest.

http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

You are comparing apples and oranges. I am sure someone could come up with a long list of radical leftist nut-jobs who killed lots of people as well but so what. These are individuals and are in very small numbers. What is much more important is to look at the two different movements as a whole and see how they act. The radical leftists are much more prone to violence as a whole than the right. Look at any of the protests and counter protests of the last few years and it is always the same; black garbed leftist anarchists and marxists trying to stomp on another group's right to free speech. When has the right ever tried to shut down a BLM or Occupy Wall Street rally? When have they ever attacked Hillary supporters just for wearing a Hillary hat? I may not like what the far right has to say but at least they respect our Country's basic civil liberties and can tolerate other's right to say something they disagree with.

 

[Badger]

Excellent points.

You are comparing apples and oranges. I am sure someone could come up with a long list of radical leftist nut-jobs who killed lots of people as well but so what. These are individuals and are in very small numbers. What is much more important is to look at the two different movements as a whole and see how they act. The radical leftists are much more prone to violence as a whole than the right. Look at any of the protests and counter protests of the last few years and it is always the same; black garbed leftist anarchists and marxists trying to stomp on another group's right to free speech. When has the right ever tried to shut down a BLM or Occupy Wall Street rally? When have they ever attacked Hillary supporters just for wearing a Hillary hat? I may not like what the far right has to say but at least they respect our Country's basic civil liberties and can tolerate other's right to say something they disagree with.

 

[Badger]

Cherry picking stats to "prove" a point, BTW, is the very height of confirmation bias. This site does an excellent job, sharing lots of numbers, of avoiding this and showing there is blame for violence on both sides, as Trump (whether you like him or not) said:

Left-wing v. right-wing violence
Left-wing v. right-wing violence

Bottles of piss

vs

harrassing a muslim women on a train and stabbing the two guys who tried to defend her to death, massacring an island's worth of young people, mowing down a bunch of people outside a mosque, going on a shooting rampage inside a mosque, a congressman punching a reporter in the face for asking a question, stabbing a British MP to death, mowing down a woman to death at a protest.

http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

 

[pimpnamedraypeat]

The story of Noah's Ark is a reference to the end of a corrupt age and beginning of a new, pristine, morally pure one. The Sufis say the "Adam" of Genesis is not the first Adam, but the 3rd one or a larger number. Prior Adams refer to prior ages.

The story of Noah is a reference to a literal flood that happened several thousand years ago.

The extent of the Sumerian flood was very substantial: a deposit 8-feet thick covering an area some 400 miles long by 100 miles wide -- a total of many billions of tons of material. And it was this discovery that sent a buzz through the cooridoors of uniformitarian geology. For here, at last, was evidence of a real Homo diluvii testis -- man a witness to the flood. Because this catastrophic event had occured in recorded history then -- uniquely in the geological record -- here was direct evidence of a substantial sediment that must have been laid down rapidly and all at once, rather than slowly over millions of years. And if this stratum then why not others?" -- Richard Milton, author, 1992

You are correct, Adam was not the first man. He was one of the survivors of a global cataclysm which wiped out the vast majority of the human race. He was tasked with repopulating his section of the globe but he was not the only one.

"There is, however, one special tradition which seems to be more deeply impressed and more widely spread than any of the others. The destruction of well-nigh the whole human race, in an early age of the world's history, by a great deluge, appears to have impressed the minds of the few survivors, and seems to have been handed down to their children, in consequence, with such terror-struck impressiveness that their remote descendants of the present day have not even yet forgotten it. It appears in almost every mythology, and lives in the most distant countries and among the most barbarous tribes." -- Hugh Miller, geologist, The Testimony of the Rocks, 1895

As the quote above hints there were other survivors in other parts of the world and they have their own stories. Even in the Americas:

"They make great mention of a deluge, which happened in their country ... The Indians say that all men were drowned in the deluge, and they report that out of Lake Titicaca came one Viracocha, who stayed in Tiahuanaco, where at this day there are to be seen ruins of ancient and very strange buildings, and from thence came to Cuzco, and so began to multiply." -- José de Acosta, priest, 1590

"The belief in a great deluge is not confined to one nation singly, the Tamanacs; it makes part of a system of historical tradition, of which we find scattered notions among the Maypures of the great cataracts; among the Indians of the Rio Erevato, which runs into the Caura; and among almost all the tribes of the upper Orinoco. When the Tamanacs are asked how the human race survived this great deluge, the 'age of water' of the Mexicans, they say, 'a man and a woman saved themselves on a high mountain, called Tamanacu, situated on the banks of the Asiveru....'" -- Alexander Von Humboldt, Personal Narrative, naturalist, 1852

Such predictions are not confined to the Bible, you will find them in all or most other major religious traditions, both Abrahamic and non-Abrahamic. The essence of what they say is that just before the end of a large temporal cycle - "end days" for Christians or yuga in Indian parlance - spiritual and moral values are turned upside down, a very large, great inversion of such takes place in a quasi-absolute way. When the quasi-absolute tipping point is reached, the world is destroyed (at what level is debatable) and replaced by the next yuga, which is much more positive.

It's destroyed at all levels as far as we're concerned because we'll all be dead.

Have you been listening to Jordan Peterson? He promotes this kooky reinterpretation of ancient religion/myth as some sort of jungian psychological archetype bullcrap.

The stories are true and our ancestors did everything they could to pass them down to us.

They're encoded in ancient architecture and monuments, in various religions and belief systems, in the oldest myths and fables, and in the oldest writings.

btw have you seen how bright sirius is looking? I like in a city with massive light polution and it still stands out

 

[michael94]

The story of Noah is a reference to a literal flood that happened several thousand years ago.

The extent of the Sumerian flood was very substantial: a deposit 8-feet thick covering an area some 400 miles long by 100 miles wide -- a total of many billions of tons of material. And it was this discovery that sent a buzz through the cooridoors of uniformitarian geology. For here, at last, was evidence of a real Homo diluvii testis -- man a witness to the flood. Because this catastrophic event had occured in recorded history then -- uniquely in the geological record -- here was direct evidence of a substantial sediment that must have been laid down rapidly and all at once, rather than slowly over millions of years. And if this stratum then why not others?" -- Richard Milton, author, 1992

You are correct, Adam was not the first man. He was one of the survivors of a global cataclysm which wiped out the vast majority of the human race. He was tasked with repopulating his section of the globe but he was not the only one.

"There is, however, one special tradition which seems to be more deeply impressed and more widely spread than any of the others. The destruction of well-nigh the whole human race, in an early age of the world's history, by a great deluge, appears to have impressed the minds of the few survivors, and seems to have been handed down to their children, in consequence, with such terror-struck impressiveness that their remote descendants of the present day have not even yet forgotten it. It appears in almost every mythology, and lives in the most distant countries and among the most barbarous tribes." -- Hugh Miller, geologist, The Testimony of the Rocks, 1895

As the quote above hints there were other survivors in other parts of the world and they have their own stories. Even in the Americas:

"They make great mention of a deluge, which happened in their country ... The Indians say that all men were drowned in the deluge, and they report that out of Lake Titicaca came one Viracocha, who stayed in Tiahuanaco, where at this day there are to be seen ruins of ancient and very strange buildings, and from thence came to Cuzco, and so began to multiply." -- José de Acosta, priest, 1590

"The belief in a great deluge is not confined to one nation singly, the Tamanacs; it makes part of a system of historical tradition, of which we find scattered notions among the Maypures of the great cataracts; among the Indians of the Rio Erevato, which runs into the Caura; and among almost all the tribes of the upper Orinoco. When the Tamanacs are asked how the human race survived this great deluge, the 'age of water' of the Mexicans, they say, 'a man and a woman saved themselves on a high mountain, called Tamanacu, situated on the banks of the Asiveru....'" -- Alexander Von Humboldt, Personal Narrative, naturalist, 1852



It's destroyed at all levels as far as we're concerned because we'll all be dead.

Have you been listening to Jordan Peterson? He promotes this kooky reinterpretation of ancient religion/myth as some sort of jungian psychological archetype bullcrap.

The stories are true and our ancestors did everything they could to pass them down to us.

They're encoded in ancient architecture and monuments, in various religions and belief systems, in the oldest myths and fables, and in the oldest writings.

btw have you seen how bright sirius is looking? I like in a city with massive light polution and it still stands out

This guy ( and some others ) thinks there was a catastrophe much more recent than that and the date of writings have been changed.



All of his videos are incredibly long but he goes into stuff no one else does ( in the English speaking world at least ).

 

[pimpnamedraypeat]

This guy ( and some others ) thinks there was a catastrophe much more recent than that and the date of writings have been changed.



All of his videos are incredibly long but he goes into stuff no one else does ( in the English speaking world at least ).

I'll watch later

 

[Badger]

The CIA's Mighty Wurlitzer with Ray Peat [Generative Energy #32]

 

[nasibi]

Lmao I didn't know this forum is hosting conspiracy theorists.