Any One Skilled In Reading Labs? Experiencing Hairloss, Fatigue, And Weightgain

Mittir

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Mittir, if you don't mind i have a few questions.

What is your opinion on milk and possible cancer risk (IGF-1)?

How much fructose you eat in a day (or how much fructose/day is safe to relatively healthy person)?

How much carbs/meal without fructose is safe?

Thanks in advance!!

I am not sure if it is the right thread for this topic. If it is not then moderator can create
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RP has already addressed issues of IGF-1 and Estrogen in milk.
The amount of these in milk is not a problem. Milk is almost a complete food,
rich in all nutrients and also contains hormones like thyroid, progesterone
and many other protective substances. There are tons of contradictory studies
in milk and most foods. One way to get a better direction is to look at
population with dairy based diets and their health.

I personally found milk to be an amazing heath food if it digested
properly. Hypothyroid people usually have weak digestion, especially
breaking down lactose. They also have problem with excess fluid
due to lower kidney function and less evaporation through lungs and skin.

RP put a lot of emphasis on fructose and i try to get a lot of fructose
in my diet. I get about 80 grams of fructose from apple juice
and about 70 grams of fructose from added sugar to milk.
I also try to get some fructose from well ripened fruits if available.
I also get about 75 grams of lactose from milk. I eat some starch
everyday, but i feel my best when i avoid starch completely and solely
rely of sugar and lactose.

I do not know what is safe amount of fructose for anyone.
But there are studies that found large amount of fructose only
ingestion causing digestive issues. In nature fructose exists in
most ripe fruits in 50:50 ratio. I would consider that as a helpful
indicator. Presence of glucose increases absorption
rate of fructose and lowers digestive issue related to fructose.

Fructose and Galactose in lactose are both good at repleting
liver glycogen storage, which plays a big part in managing stress.
If one is worried about fructose causing fatty liver then they can
try lactose for glycogen repletion. One of the benefit of fructose
is that it does not require insulin to be metabolised. There is a study
that found adding 10 grams of fructose per meal lowering
blood sugar by about 15% and insulin level by about 20%.
 

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I am not sure if it is the right thread for this topic. If it is not then moderator can create
a separate thread for this.

RP has already addressed issues of IGF-1 and Estrogen in milk.
The amount of these in milk is not a problem. Milk is almost a complete food,
rich in all nutrients and also contains hormones like thyroid, progesterone
and many other protective substances. There are tons of contradictory studies
in milk and most foods. One way to get a better direction is to look at
population with dairy based diets and their health.

I personally found milk to be an amazing heath food if it digested
properly. Hypothyroid people usually have weak digestion, especially
breaking down lactose. They also have problem with excess fluid
due to lower kidney function and less evaporation through lungs and skin.

RP put a lot of emphasis on fructose and i try to get a lot of fructose
in my diet. I get about 80 grams of fructose from apple juice
and about 70 grams of fructose from added sugar to milk.
I also try to get some fructose from well ripened fruits if available.
I also get about 75 grams of lactose from milk. I eat some starch
everyday, but i feel my best when i avoid starch completely and solely
rely of sugar and lactose.

I do not know what is safe amount of fructose for anyone.
But there are studies that found large amount of fructose only
ingestion causing digestive issues. In nature fructose exists in
most ripe fruits in 50:50 ratio. I would consider that as a helpful
indicator. Presence of glucose increases absorption
rate of fructose and lowers digestive issue related to fructose.

Fructose and Galactose in lactose are both good at repleting
liver glycogen storage, which plays a big part in managing stress.
If one is worried about fructose causing fatty liver then they can
try lactose for glycogen repletion. One of the benefit of fructose
is that it does not require insulin to be metabolised. There is a study
that found adding 10 grams of fructose per meal lowering
blood sugar by about 15% and insulin level by about 20%.
Thanks, that's very kind of you!
 

DaveFoster

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Thanks, that's very kind of you!
Also, to give some context on what people are doing.

Mittir tends to understand and regurgitate Peat's work in a very direct and understandable way; it's as if talking to Peat himself.

WestsidePUFA tends to demonize fat and allow for more starch than most members of the forum, and he emphasizes the high amount of calories from sugars, and a generally plant-based approach.

Such_Saturation tends to post very short and succinct responses that usually force attention to a certain shortcoming in an argument; he consumes a very "purist" Peat diet of milk, OJ, and sugar, if he's still doing so.

Tara has a much more conservative approach, and she advises to take things slowly and change singular variables; this is wise. She's very knowledgeable as well.

From what I gather, Charlie experiments quite a bit, much like myself. He's had such a breadth of trial and error that he's a great resource if something goes wrong, as he spends so much time on the forum.

Haidut is a powerhouse of PubMed, and he tends to deeply understand these subjects due to his educational background and communication with Danny Roddy and Dr. Peat. He has an empirical approach based on evidence, and his supplements are fantastic.

Someone else who has helped me a considerable degree is Blossom; she's been doing this a while, and she's quite good at implementing the conventional Peat approach adapted to herself with positive results.

Narouz also tends to bring up some good points; he definitely challenges some of Peat's notions, and you have to remember that Dr. Peat is only a man; with that, he understands everything must be applied in context, but his arguments are generally correct in my opinion, and in the opinion of many others.

Giraffe has also been helpful, as has a few other people including sladerunner, natedawgh, Parsifal, Dopamine, and Diokine. Here's a little something from the last you can check out: Hypothyroid Recovery Primer

Tweak your approach; understand this is a marathon, not a sprint.

For me, the most important thing is cyproheptadine; I'm still trying to fix some issues, but it's a valuable tool. It lowers the majority (if not all) of the sympathetic hormones; in conjunction with a pro-thyroid substance, such as caffeine or T3/T4, it can be a game changer. Don't be afraid to use doses of 12 mg+, but be sure to check your liver enzymes every few months or so when you get into the 24 mg range.
 
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